Why accept this, what men or demons came up with,Not really a problem for evolution here. After all, sex goes way back all the way to fish in the sea.
Sorry, that argument lost out when Luther railed against the science that said the earth rotates instead of the sun moving, based on his idea that God's word is infinitely better than mere science.Why accept this, what men or demons came up with,
what the gestapo used , and the russians, to gain the loyalty of the gullible masses,
what is opposed to God's Word every day ?
Why accept 'theory' when God's Word is INFINITELY BETTER ?!? (and no evolution theory needed, ever)
As YHWH Himself Always Says.idea that God's word is infinitely better than mere science.
Contrary to what YHWH Himself Always Says.Now some of us, at least, think that God's truth as revealed in the stars, the rocks, and the genomes can be a perfectly fine guide to interpreting more accurately God's written word.
As YHWH Himself Always Says.
Contrary to what YHWH Himself Always Says.
(He forbids that kind of interpretation , simply, right in His Word, in case anyone thought it was okay)
THIS is where the error is. There is nothing temporal (seen) that helps YHWH , nor is needed by YHWH, to Reveal His Understanding to whomever He Chooses. "By Faith" does not only not require anything seen or physical, but refuses to even consider it.guide to interpreting
This is moot point. ("that kind of interpretation" is not what you think/post here)Sorry, that kind of interpretation lost out when we began to believe the earth rotates as the cause of day and night instead of the sun moving across the sky.
God reveals through seeing and in the physical all the time, and that mode of His revelation should not be disregarded.THIS is where the error is. There is nothing temporal (seen) that helps YHWH , nor is needed by YHWH, to Reveal His Understanding to whomever He Chooses. "By Faith" does not only not require anything seen or physical, but refuses to even consider it. . . . .
THat's not at all what I was referring to,God reveals through seeing and in the physical all the time, and that mode of His revelation should not be disregarded.
Yes, ever since man has been around. Has nothing to do with evolution, as you said.
You are missing what the passage says.
There has been no evolution of creatures into Man. Man has always been man.
You must realize that there are a great many of us who accept evolution to be true including evolution of man, and to us, denying that obvious truth seems to be totally out of touch with reality.
Oh an obvious truth. Please show me this obvious truth.
The Old Testament was a religious, nationalist, political propaganda devise written for the scattered Israelite audience during the Babylonian captivity. There is no secular history of the Jews from that period, the history books mentioned in the scriptures vanished like Hillary Clintons e-mails!The "way" in which Adam and Eve, before, in the "Garden", before being expelled and also possibly maybe even all of Genesis some say, is "true", and the important truth to it, and about it, all of it, and maybe the "big picture" of all of it, right now, maybe anyway, is or may be "beyond our comprehension" right now...? And it is only distant in that way, "Heaven" (or the Kingdom, or Paradise) that is at first likened to and presented to us as an Earth-like "Garden" to us at first, and other likenesses later on, I believe in order to try and convey the common thread, anyhow...
The way in which Adam and Eve and The Garden Paradise is "true", may be beyond our comprehension right now...
It could be talking about another kind of reality, where things are very different... What is being conveyed to us, meant to be a symbol of something higher and better and greater...
Comments?
God Bless!
Yes and you have said that it is obviously true.We're talking about evolution, remember?
Did God work within our (in)ability to develop a more mature God concept back then or and God chose to work within the limits of that, until that would grow in time...The Old Testament was a religious, nationalist, political propaganda devise written for the scattered Israelite audience during the Babylonian captivity. There is no secular history of the Jews from that period, the history books mentioned in the scriptures vanished like Hillary Clintons e-mails!
The surviving narratives concerning Adam and Eve would have come from Mesopotamian lore looooong after the gardens and subsequent events.
The theology of the scriptures contains considerable conjecture and speculation by holy men concerning the meaning of distant events as they understood those it.
Yes and you have said that it is obviously true.
So I'm being sarcastic and expecting you to supply evidence for that which is unproven.
There are tons and tons of evidence for evolution. But there is no way to get you to accept that, your freedom to deny cannot be taken away from you.
However, I will remind you that you have a coccyx instead of a tail. It's evidence for evolution. Go ahead, deny that as well.
God always meets us where we are in any age.Did God work within our (in)ability to develop a more mature God concept back then or and God chose to work within the limits of that, until that would grow in time...
Do you know how we have evolved, socially, conceptually... And then what we all were then, compared to now...? Just look how the imagination has grown, my oh my...God always meets us where we are in any age.
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