The War

[TScott]

No one has said that Iraq was occupied by "Al Qeada".

Alarum was trying to stick to the thread topic. Something you appear to have difficulty in doing. In the OP i mentioned that the NSA anti-terrorism director said that attcking Iraq after 9/11 would have been like attacking Mexico after Pearl Harbor. You said that we attacked Holland in WWII even though they didn't do anything to us. Alarum assumes that you realize we attacked Holland because the Germans, who we were at war with, had occupied Holland. Is this too deep for you?

Please stick to the thread.

 

[12volt_man]

Alarum assumes that you realize we attacked Holland because the Germans, who we were at war with, had occupied Holland.

Then let Alarum answer the question.

Is this too deep for you?

What is it with you libs and the childishness?

Please stick to the thread.

I am. Everything I've said here is related to the topic at hand.

 

[TScott]

What is it with you libs and the childishness?

I'm not a "lib", whatever the heck that is, and I am serious. This is obviously too deep for you since you couldn't even address it.

I am. Everything I've said here is related to the topic at hand.

No. You're not. Our invading Holland has absolutely nothing to do with anything on this thread. Alarum and I have both pointed that out to you. You have a nasty habit of de-railing threads. That's what you are doing right now.

I will ask you one more time. Please stay on topic.

 

[k]

The war is nothing less than imperialism.

 

[Alarum]

Then let Alarum answer the question.

Answer the question?

Making a few assumptions about history and geography we can assume you were referring to a country that was occupied by the Nazis, namely the Netherlands. At the time, the Netherlands was occupied by the Nazis, who were distinctly part of the alliance that attacked us.

Now demonstrate how Iraq is part of the alliance that attacked us. Since you state that the 'Holland' parallel is distinctly different from a hypothetical invasion of Mexico during WW2, you state by implication that Iraq is linked to our enemy - the Al-Qaeda, either through invasion or strong ties. Since you have implied this, I am asking you to follow through on your implication. Otherwise we're left with the Mexico parallel.

 

[12volt_man]

Making a few assumptions about history and geography we can assume you were referring to a country that was occupied by the Nazis, namely the Netherlands. At the time, the Netherlands was occupied by the Nazis, who were distinctly part of the alliance that attacked us.

So then, we went in to Holland, not because of anything that Holland had done, but because there were people in Holland who sought to do harm?

Do you believe that we were justified to go into Holland in pursuit of the Germans?

Now demonstrate how Iraq is part of the alliance that attacked us.

I will if you'll demonstrate how Holland was a part of the Axis powers.

 

[12volt_man]

The war is nothing less than imperialism.

Could you please explain this statement and tell us how you define "imperialism"?

 

[12volt_man]

This is obviously too deep for you since you couldn't even address it.

More childishness?

Believe me, if it was too deep for me, I couldn't have earned a degree in history, now, could I?

You have a nasty habit of de-railing threads. That's what you are doing right now.

Then report me. That way, we can get a mod in here and I can point out the progression of threads from one to another that clearly shows I have not deviated from the topic at hand.

Further, your statement that I am derailing the thread is illogical. If what I have to say is not related to the topic, then you wouldn't have addressed it.

 

[k]

Could you please explain this statement and tell us how you define "imperialism"?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-39,RNWE:en&q=define%3A+imperialism

There are several definitions available, but all are interconnected.

Invading Iraq is Imperialism, don't know how to make it any more clear.

 

[12volt_man]

There are several definitions available,

But I asked for yours.

Invading Iraq is Imperialism, don't know how to make it any more clear.

Yes, you've said that already, but you're still not able to explain how it is "imperialism".

 

[k]

But I asked for yours.

There is a reason why the CF rules specifically state we do not personalize the issues. Any of those definitions work.

Yes, you've said that already, but you're still not able to explain how it is "imperialism".

Invading a country that was no threat to the US, killing thousands and thousands of its citizens, and taking control of the countrie's future.

 

[Alarum]

So then, we went in to Holland, not because of anything that Holland had done, but because there were people in Holland who sought to do harm?

Do you believe that we were justified to go into Holland in pursuit of the Germans?

Congrats, you've justified the invasion of Afghanistan. Now links to the 'people in Iraq who sought to do harm,' specifically against the US.

I will if you'll demonstrate how Holland was a part of the Axis powers.

Certainly. Holland was part of the Axis powers by conquest. Since the Axis powers ran and ruled the country, the country was part of them. If we had not retaken Holland the axis leaders would have taken refuge there. Given the fate of the last terrorist leader to set foot in Iraq, Osama would have been an idiot to set foot there.

 

[TScott]

More childishness?

Believe me, if it was too deep for me, I couldn't have earned a degree in history, now, could I?

Childishness? You know how you get an Aubie with a history degree off your porch, dontcha?

Tip him for the pizza!



What is blue and orange, 100 yards long, and has two teeth? The front row at Jordan-Hare Stadium.

 

[12volt_man]

What is blue and orange, 100 yards long, and has two teeth? The front row at Jordan-Hare Stadium.

First of all, we are not "Aubies", we are "Plainsmen".

Go ahead and laugh. I'm sure your certificate from Hamburger U. will get you far in life.

Auburn has turned out more Space Shuttle commanders than any other school in the nation, save for the Naval Academy.

Auburn is the home of Lt. Gen. Hal Moore, father of the AirCav and innovator of virtually everything we know about the use of helicoptors in combat (and one of my instructors).

Auburn is also home to the largest raptor rescue and research center in the country.

You will find one of the most acclaimed veterinary schools in the world at Auburn, as well as a leading engineering school.

I believe in Auburn and love it.

 

[murron]

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