The walls are closing in... Mueller has proof Cohen lied about his whereabouts

[CitizenD]

In the original Steele dossier, you know, that document that Republicans claim is partisan hit job, faked up, and used as a pretense to launch the special council's investigation but has in fact been increasingly born out as real... that document? Well in that document, Cohen was accused of meeting in Prague with representatives of the Kremlin to arrange cash payments for hacking.

Cohen denied ever having been to Prague, responding to the dossier release with #fakenews.

Well Cohen is absolutely hosed. Because McClatchy is reporting that Mueller has evidence that he did travel to Prague in month indicated by the Dossier.

It's beginning to look a lot like collusion!

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON


The Justice Department special counsel has evidence that Donald Trump’s personal lawyer and confidant, Michael Cohen, secretly made a late-summer trip to Prague during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to two sources familiar with the matter.

Confirmation of the trip would lend credence to a retired British spy’s report that Cohen strategized there with a powerful Kremlin figure about Russian meddling in the U.S. election.

It would also be one of the most significant developments thus far in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of whether the Trump campaign and the Kremlin worked together to help Trump win the White House. Undercutting Trump’s repeated pronouncements that “there is no evidence of collusion,” it also could ratchet up the stakes if the president tries, as he has intimated he might for months, to order Mueller’s firing.
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[Nithavela]

Quick, fire the distraction missiles!

 

[iluvatar5150]

Quick, fire the distraction missiles!

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[Kentonio]

If they can prove he was in Prague, then its game over.

 

[CitizenD]

If they can prove he was in Prague, then its game over.

I'd like to believe that, but if you look at our resident Trump supporters the bar for crtiticising Trump (a prolific liar, serial adulterer, and con) is unusually high.

 

[Always in His Presence]

How does he get into a foreign nation without his passport being stamped?

 

[CitizenD]

How does he get into a foreign nation without his passport being stamped?

Let's just say it doesn't exactly surprise me that you haven't been to Europe in the last 20 years.

The Schengen agreement allows freedom of movement within most European (but not all EU) countries without passport stamps.

I went on a backpacking trip through Europe in 2005 and I barely have any stamps. I visited 12 countries and have 2 stamps: entry and exit from the Schengen area.

 

[CitizenD]

How does he get into a foreign nation without his passport being stamped?

Here's a handy guide to the complex multi-lateral agreements among European (and more) countries

Czech Republic is right in the nearly two dozen Schengen countries

http://www.apex-foundation.org/wp-content/uploads/european-entities-member-countries.png

 

[camille70]

Let's just say it doesn't exactly surprise me that you haven't been to Europe in the last 20 years.

The Schengen agreement allows freedom of movement within most European (but not all EU) countries without passport stamps.

I went on a backpacking trip through Europe in 2005 and I barely have any stamps. I visited 12 countries and have 2 stamps: entry and exit from the Schengen area.

Yeah I read he had entered through Germany, so was able to move about. That was part of the UK/Brexit complaint, security was only as strong as the weakest country, so a terrorist could enter in one country and and then travel any place else in the EU without scrutiny. My sister lives in Switzerland, a while back she said there had been an uptick in crime partly because of this, ATMs being pulled out of bank walls, etc.

 

[Always in His Presence]

So where is the stamp from Germany? His passport is clean for that time period and he showed proof of where he was in the states.

You cannot go from the US to Europe without your passport stamped.

 

[camille70]

Where is that? When did he show that?

I'm sorry, I have to know at this point. I read your posts, and it's just months and months of facile arguments that don't scan. Do you really believe this stuff? Are you just a deep cover troll?

Do you believe that everyone on Earth has just one passport?

Do you think it means anything that he lacks a stamp in a US passport (not that he's ever shown it).

He posted his passport on twitter when they were trying to dispute the dossier, but the picture I saw was closed, I didn't see a pic with it open.

Michael Cohen on Twitter

 

[Nithavela]

staff edit

"Deep"?

 

[Kentonio]

I'd like to believe that, but if you look at our resident Trump supporters the bar for crtiticising Trump (a prolific liar, serial adulterer, and con) is unusually high.

I’ve just been reading some posts on FR, home to some of the most virulent Trump fans, and even there many of them are getting nervous.

 

[camille70]

Where is that? When did he show that?

I'm sorry, I have to know at this point. I read your posts, and it's just months and months of facile arguments that don't scan. Do you really believe this stuff? Are you just a deep cover troll?

Do you believe that everyone on Earth has just one passport? About 1 in 10 of my friends have dual passports (migrants with dual citizenship). Heck, I know a person who has *bought* a passport (buying citizenship through investment). And if that's within the reach of my circle of friends, it's certainly within Cohen's.

Do you think it means anything that he lacks a stamp in a US passport (not that he's ever shown it).

I have to add tho, as he himself has said, he testified under oath he was not in Prague. If it turns out they have evidence he was there, he is in legal jeopardy.

Michael Cohen on Twitter

It remains to be seen if charges filed, if there are any, will be by the state or by the feds, but if it is state charges for any of this, Trump can't pardon him.

 

[CitizenD]

I have to add tho, as he himself has said, he testified under oath he was not in Prague. If it turns out they have evidence he was there, he is in legal jeopardy.

If they can place him in Prague, Cohen is screwed. By all rights Trump should be held to the fire by the public too.

If they can place him in Prague meeting with Russians, there's only four ways this ends: Trump's impeachment, Trump's resignation, Trump blowing his brains out on TV Budd Dwyer style, revolution.

 

[CitizenD]

I’ve just been reading some posts on FR, home to some of the most virulent Trump fans, and even there many of them are getting nervous.

Link?

 

[camille70]

If they can place him in Prague, Cohen is screwed. By all rights Trump should be held to the fire by the public too.

If they can place him in Prague meeting with Russians, there's only four ways this ends: Trump's impeachment, Trump's resignation, Trump blowing his brains out on TV Budd Dwyer style, revolution.

I can't see Trump taking the suicide route, but Cohen is another matter. It's been said Cohen has been under investigation for months, and Trump just called him to "check" on him. If his phone is tapped they are in deep, deep trouble. I'm just hoping Trump stays healthy enough to see the conclusion of everything. In the end, I don't think he goes to jail. However several associates and perhaps a few family members are in jeopardy.

I don't know if the current congress would impeach him. After the tax heist bill, many have decided not to see reelection, so they are just going to take the money and run. It depends I think on what the actual evidence turns out to contain. We are getting bits and pieces weeks or even months after special counsel has acted on it. We don't know half the people they've interviewed. News reports are if Trump is not going to sit down with the special counsel they can get their report ready faster regarding obstruction.

 

[High Fidelity]

I doubt Trump's disciples will care that much. That's the sad part about all of this; not that it happened, but to millions of people it likely won't mean a thing.

 

[CitizenD]

I can't see Trump taking the suicide route,

Of course not, that would require trump to feel shame, honor, and duty; concepts which are entirely lacking from his character.

but Cohen is another matter. It's been said Cohen has been under investigation for months, and Trump just called him to "check" on him. If his phone is tapped they are in deep, deep trouble.

Cohen is DOA no matter what at this point. No amount of pardoning can get him out of NY state's grasp.

I'm just hoping Trump stays healthy enough to see the conclusion of everything. In the end, I don't think he goes to jail. However several associates and perhaps a few family members are in jeopardy.

Trump might not go to prison.

I don't know if the current congress would impeach him.

That's why we're in a constitutional crisis. The conflicts of interest, the blatant corruption ("I LOVE IT!" - Donald Trump Jr., J. Kush's entire civil servant career, the use of Trump hotels by foreign nationals seeking to curry favor, the use of Mar a lago memberships for the same). They're beyond dispute, even before the criminal and civil investigations. And yet here we have no action by the GOP congress.

They all want to pretend that Trump's multibillion dollar, shady-as-hell business empire is totes fine when previous presidents went to great lengths to distance themselves from their businesses before they ever took office.

After the tax heist bill, many have decided not to see[k] reelection, so they are just going to take the money and run. It depends I think on what the actual evidence turns out to contain. We are getting bits and pieces weeks or even months after special counsel has acted on it. We don't know half the people they've interviewed.

Exactly. Team bag-holding-for-Trump is in for a surprise in the next few months.

News reports are if Trump is not going to sit down with the special counsel they can get their report ready faster regarding obstruction.

 

[PeachyKeane]

How does he get into a foreign nation without his passport being stamped?

Czech Republic is in the EU. You can travel throughout without a stamp.