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The "view from the bottom"...?

Neogaia777

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I replied this to another person on another forum, who claimed to be "good enough" for God and the discussion was about masturbation and whether or not it's a "sin"...

News Flash ReesePiece, no one and I mean no one is "good enough" except Christ... You scare me with your words "You guys trying to convince me I'm not good enough, just isn't going to work"

Are you "good enough", if so, "good enough" for what?

It would be best just to admit that your masturbation is a sin, a sin you need to work on... Are you looking at or listening to porn on websites? If so, what's that doing to your head?

While we fall short, but we are still accepted, when we actively admit (our sins, as God defines sin, not as the world) Anyways, while we fall short, but we are still accepted, when we actively admit that we fall short before a Holy and Mighty God...

Admitting to God that our sin is sin (to him) keeps us "in-check" keeps us lowly and humble which leads to many many other good spiritual gifts, because we are starting out in a low place... People oftentimes talk about "the view from the top" the perspective they get when they feel on top of the world (and full of themselves) but there is a "view from the bottom" that leads us into love, joy, faith, hope, peace, happiness, kindness, generosity, true wisdom, real knowledge, essentially "selflessness"; a humble mind, and a gentle quiet heart, and a meek and mild spirit

God is interested in what we learned from our "view from the bottom" that's why he often takes us there, because we need the lessons that the view from the bottom teaches us to be prepared for the kingdom of God, (and the wise, take the low road) anyways God sometimes brings us to a low-place, especially when we are walking in our own pride or righteousness, or egotism or selfishness...

The view from the bottom or low road is very beneficial personally, if your willing to alter your perspective, and is the road we should take throughout our lives...

God Bless!
 

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There's nothing like a view from the bottom.Amen."God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble."May the Lord bless us all with the ability to obtain perfect humility, that we may grow brighter and brighter unto the perfect day.

Amen!:amen:

God Bless!
 
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The view from the bottom is crystal clear. I can tell you because that's where I am unfortunately. I wish I weren't learning so much. I prefer to be a little dumber on a mountain top. But God had to take me through this and I'm trying to endure.

I've actually never heard a teaching that masturbation is wrong. But For a guy it can be a gateway activity to worse things. It's sort of like matches. Matches can light a romantic candle or it can burn the house down and kill everyone in it.

That all I've got to say about that.
 
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The view from the bottom is crystal clear. I can tell you because that's where I am unfortunately. I wish I weren't learning so much. I prefer to be a little dumber on a mountain top. But God had to take me through this and I'm trying to endure.

I've actually never heard a teaching that masturbation is wrong. But For a guy it can be a gateway activity to worse things. It's sort of like matches. Matches can light a romantic candle or it can burn the house down and kill everyone in it.

That all I've got to say about that.

I think gotquestions.org has probably the best thing about masturbation I've read anywhere.

They say something like this:

"Masturbation is mentioned nowhere in the Bible (everybody talks about Omar, but that has nothing to do with masturbation), so Masturbation itself is probably not a sin (if it were, wouldn't the Bible talk about it, since God has very strong views on sexuality?). However, the things that leads one to touch is certainly sin, unless it is a married man who has been away from his wife for an extended period of time, and is masturbating while thinking about her." (pp)

And then they quote things like Phillippians 4:8 (IIRC), that verse that we should only do what is glorifying to God.
 
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