The very worst people in the world

[Bluelion]

so who is the worst people in the world, is it sinners, is it homosexuals, is it atheist? Is it devil worshipers? nope.

Jesus spoke of who the worst people in the world were in Mat 23. They are those in the church who call themselves Christians but are really wolves, children of Satan. That is right the really worst of people do things in the Name of God, the go by exalted Titles. Sorry devil worshipers Your evil does not compare to those False teachers in the church.

Is this something new, no Jesus spoke of it it was around in His day to. These people put Jesus to death. They attack Him every where He went, they tried to bait Him at every turn to give them something they could use. I have found this true in my life that my worst enemies Go by the Name Christian, some are members of my own family who claimed all there life to be Christian and i thought were good, but when God started teaching me, i found out they did not know Gods word at all. One member goes to church every day and Bible study. She said to me one day oh Bible study was so great. i said what did you discuss, she said you know Romans. i said yes i know Romans what about it, she said well it was about Romans i said what did God say. Oh you know. i said which part oh ahh oh ahh. could not remember one word 3 hours or so later, She was not listening at all. Yet everyone says this woman is a good Christian woman, they say I am the bad one. Blind guides leading the blind.

Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan. Something to think about the next time a person says I am a Christian.

Whats worse is people believe they are Christians and the children of God will pay for the evil they do.

 

[ForJesusChrist]

Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan

Really? Every church?

 

[Bluelion]

Really? Every church?

i speak of church buildings and not the body of Christ, so their is your one.

 

[Keachian]

i speak of church buildings and not the body of Christ, so their is your one.

I read it as mock surprise and it really shouldn't come as a surprise, but as to your claim that it was these sorts of people who crucified Christ, in some sense yes, unrepentent sinners and wolves put to death our Lord, but I find this accusing thing to be useless in light of the reality that what drove Christ to the Cross was his love for us even in our sinfulness that we might have his righteousness.

 

[Bluelion]

I read it as mock surprise and it really shouldn't come as a surprise, but as to your claim that it was these sorts of people who crucified Christ, in some sense yes, unrepentent sinners and wolves put to death our Lord, but I find this accusing thing to be useless in light of the reality that what drove Christ to the Cross was his love for us even in our sinfulness that we might have his righteousness.

what is a mock surprise?

 

[Keachian]

what is a mock surprise?

To anyone remotely familiar with the teaching of Christ (most people on the forum) the idea of wolves being in the Church is a given.

 

[Hammster]

so who is the worst people in the world, is it sinners, is it homosexuals, is it atheist? Is it devil worshipers? nope.

Jesus spoke of who the worst people in the world were in Mat 23. They are those in the church who call themselves Christians but are really wolves, children of Satan. That is right the really worst of people do things in the Name of God, the go by exalted Titles. Sorry devil worshipers Your evil does not compare to those False teachers in the church.

Is this something new, no Jesus spoke of it it was around in His day to. These people put Jesus to death. They attack Him every where He went, they tried to bait Him at every turn to give them something they could use. I have found this true in my life that my worst enemies Go by the Name Christian, some are members of my own family who claimed all there life to be Christian and i thought were good, but when God started teaching me, i found out they did not know Gods word at all. One member goes to church every day and Bible study. She said to me one day oh Bible study was so great. i said what did you discuss, she said you know Romans. i said yes i know Romans what about it, she said well it was about Romans i said what did God say. Oh you know. i said which part oh ahh oh ahh. could not remember one word 3 hours or so later, She was not listening at all. Yet everyone says this woman is a good Christian woman, they say I am the bad one. Blind guides leading the blind.

Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan. Something to think about the next time a person says I am a Christian.

Whats worse is people believe they are Christians and the children of God will pay for the evil they do.

Are you saying that you are a Christian?

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan.

"Every church" has someone worse than Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun?

 

[Bluelion]

To anyone remotely familiar with the teaching of Christ (most people on the forum) the idea of wolves being in the Church is a given.

Are you suggesting I was expressing surprise? You can tell that by words on a page with out any descriptive words about how I felt about the whole thing. You must be a truly Gift to people able to tell people what they feel. I was not surprised when i wrote this nor did i try to convey surprise. I find you comments judgmental and false.

But while I was not surprised when i wrote this nor trying to convey that, but when I family member I had grown up with and who had dragged me to church, when I found out she did not know the Bible after over 30 years in church, and that she was a wolf going to church only for people to say she was a good person. At that moment a long time ago yes i was indeed surprised.

I don't think anyone is surprised by wolves in the church I think they are surprised by who they turn out to be.

 

[Bluelion]

Are you saying that you are a Christian?

why you ask? are you saying I am not?

 

[Bluelion]

"Every church" has someone worse than Hitler, Stalin, Genghis Khan, Atilla the Hun?

Hitler claimed it was God's will. He claimed the super race of blond hair blue eyed people was God's will. Like I said the worst people do it in the name of God. Stalin I bet was a christian but I don't know that for fact. i think hitler was worse out of any you named.

Look at the crusades all done with the backing of the church in the Name of God.

 

[Hammster]

why you ask? are you saying I am not?

No, I'm not. But you said this:

"Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan. Something to think about the next time a person says I am a Christian.

Whats worse is people believe they are Christians and the children of God will pay for the evil they do"

Since you think your a Christian, why does this not apply to you?

 

[Nord Christian]

Hitler's father was a skeptic, and his mother a devout Catholic. He
would eventually get into occultism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler's_religious_views

 

[Keachian]

Hitler claimed it was God's will. He claimed the super race of blond hair blue eyed people was God's will. Like I said the worst people do it in the name of God. Stalin I bet was a christian but I don't know that for fact. i think hitler was worse out of any you named.

Look at the crusades all done with the backing of the church in the Name of God.

Stalin had started on the path to priesthood but gave it up because a better path to power reared its head.

 

[ThisBrotherOfHis]

Hitler claimed it was God's will.

So? David Koresh said the same thing. He was wrong.

He claimed the super race of blond hair blue eyed people was God's will.

Irrelevant. It wasn't God's will. Saying it is doesn't mean it is.

Like I said the worst people do it in the name of God.

You didn't prove anything with those statements.

Stalin I bet was a christian but I don't know that for fact. i think hitler was worse out of any you named.

"You bet" Stalin was a Christian? "You bet" he was?? That's your argument?

Look at the crusades all done with the backing of the church in the Name of God.

Much is done in God's name that has absolutely nothing to do with God. Your argument is an epic fail.

 

[Bluelion]

No, I'm not. But you said this:

"Every church has at least one person who is more wicked than the worst pagan. Something to think about the next time a person says I am a Christian.

Whats worse is people believe they are Christians and the children of God will pay for the evil they do"

Since you think your a Christian, why does this not apply to you?

wow that sounds a lot like you are calling me a wolf in sheep clothing, or I am in fact one of the worst people as i referenced in my post. Is that what you are saying Or you asking what makes me different? i might ask you the same question?

 

[Bluelion]

So? David Koresh said the same thing. He was wrong.Irrelevant. It wasn't God's will. Saying it is doesn't mean it is.You didn't prove anything with those statements."You bet" Stalin was a Christian? "You bet" he was?? That's your argument? Much is done in God's name that has absolutely nothing to do with God. Your argument is an epic fail.

look I don't know what your major issues is, but is it clear the worst things have been done in the name of God. I never said it was God's will.

Tell you what why don't you just leave the thread as you seem very upset, maybe colect your self and come back when you have something to add, as it looks now you just want to attack and argue with what I said. Not intrested

 

[C-Man]

Never, ever grade human beings on a scale. There is perfect and imperfect, and every last one of us falls into the second column. Any other distinctions are best left to the legal system. If God graded on a scale, then the Bible would say something like: "Okay, thieves go into this part of Hell, murderers go to this part, Hitler gets his own little cell," etc. But it doesn't. The wages of sin is death. No more, no less.

Trying to categorize one person or group as better than another tends to both start and derail topics like this one, and it's quite a pointless debate.

 

[Hammster]

wow that sounds a lot like you are calling me a wolf in sheep clothing, or I am in fact one of the worst people as i referenced in my post. Is that what you are saying Or you asking what makes me different? i might ask you the same question?

What I asked was pretty straight forward. Why don't you think your statement applies to you?

 

[Hammster]

Never, ever grade human beings on a scale. There is perfect and imperfect, and every last one of us falls into the second column. Any other distinctions are best left to the legal system. If God graded on a scale, then the Bible would say something like: "Okay, thieves go into this part of Hell, murderers go to this part, Hitler gets his own little cell," etc. But it doesn't. The wages of sin is death. No more, no less.

Trying to categorize one person or group as better than another tends to both start and derail topics like this one, and it's quite a pointless debate.

Really, what it books down to is that if we are better than Hitter, it's by a very small margin compared to how much we differ from Christ.