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The USA in Prophecy?

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You have to understand human rebellion against the Lord by "city" building .... collecting a social structure for self governing and intransigence against Him [Genesis 10; 11]

When humans design and build the city, city states, kingdoms, and Empires they separate themselves from the Lord's direction and providence ..... this creates a reprobate and decadent condition ripe for judgment

He tell us in His Revelation just how He defines this condition at the time of the end of this present age and calls it Mystery Babylon the great

An this colossal networking of the cities of the nations has a "great city" at its core [Revelation 14:8; 17:16-18; 18:1-21]

This dominating city [civilization] has tentacles that reach across the earth by financial, economic, trading and commercial connections of material wealth and related

If the world is close to the time of the end, then this must be the USA ..... in other words this networked center of human intransigence has come full circle from the city building of the earily settlements in the land Mesopotamia and today is the megalith He calls MBG

If the world is not near the time, then this could change course and the "great city" might be different

This "great city" of the cities of the nations will be destroyed early in the tribulation period in one day by Satan's beast in the little horn [a king of the northern Middle East] and his 10 kings seen in Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-8; Revelation 17:16-18] .... never to rise again

The Lord will revisit the continent where the "great city" stood and break it into 3rds and destroy the other cities of the nations during the battle of Armageddon at the end of the tribulation [Revelation 16:18-19]

The other "great" city in Revelation is Jerusalem, the Lord's city and this one is eternal and will never cease to exist [Micah 4; Revelation 11:2-8; 21:1-2]
 

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The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th horseman, that is, the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth for Jesus. Our weapons bring hell and death. New York City, Philadelphia, and Washington DC (the 3 historical capitals of the US) are pointed to, like 3 ducks in a row, by one of the vectors of the starguide of chapter one which points to all the good things foretold.
 
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You have to understand human rebellion against the Lord by "city" building .... collecting a social structure for self governing and intransigence against Him [Genesis 10; 11]

When humans design and build the city, city states, kingdoms, and Empires they separate themselves from the Lord's direction and providence ..... this creates a reprobate and decadent condition ripe for judgment

He tell us in His Revelation just how He defines this condition at the time of the end of this present age and calls it Mystery Babylon the great

An this colossal networking of the cities of the nations has a "great city" at its core [Revelation 14:8; 17:16-18; 18:1-21]

This dominating city [civilization] has tentacles that reach across the earth by financial, economic, trading and commercial connections of material wealth and related

If the world is close to the time of the end, then this must be the USA ..... in other words this networked center of human intransigence has come full circle from the city building of the earily settlements in the land Mesopotamia and today is the megalith He calls MBG

If the world is not near the time, then this could change course and the "great city" might be different

This "great city" of the cities of the nations will be destroyed early in the tribulation period in one day by Satan's beast in the little horn [a king of the northern Middle East] and his 10 kings seen in Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-8; Revelation 17:16-18] .... never to rise again

The Lord will revisit the continent where the "great city" stood and break it into 3rds and destroy the other cities of the nations during the battle of Armageddon at the end of the tribulation [Revelation 16:18-19]

The other "great" city in Revelation is Jerusalem, the Lord's city and this one is eternal and will never cease to exist [Micah 4; Revelation 11:2-8; 21:1-2]

Economic Babylon. As for spiritual Babylon, your guess is as good as mine.
 
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"Spiritual" Babylon is a product of man's intransigence and refusal to recognize the Lord for who He is

The lost world of humanity is described as an adulteress "woman" who is unfaithful to the One that has created them and this is exactly what people do

Running off and worshiping every thing imaginable and ignoring the Lord [Romans 1:18-21]

This behavior He will not tolerate ..... the spiritual depravity of unregenerate men
 
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You have to understand human rebellion against the Lord by "city" building .... collecting a social structure for self governing and intransigence against Him [Genesis 10; 11]

When humans design and build the city, city states, kingdoms, and Empires they separate themselves from the Lord's direction and providence ..... this creates a reprobate and decadent condition ripe for judgment

He tell us in His Revelation just how He defines this condition at the time of the end of this present age and calls it Mystery Babylon the great

An this colossal networking of the cities of the nations has a "great city" at its core [Revelation 14:8; 17:16-18; 18:1-21]

This dominating city [civilization] has tentacles that reach across the earth by financial, economic, trading and commercial connections of material wealth and related

If the world is close to the time of the end, then this must be the USA ..... in other words this networked center of human intransigence has come full circle from the city building of the earily settlements in the land Mesopotamia and today is the megalith He calls MBG

If the world is not near the time, then this could change course and the "great city" might be different

This "great city" of the cities of the nations will be destroyed early in the tribulation period in one day by Satan's beast in the little horn [a king of the northern Middle East] and his 10 kings seen in Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-8; Revelation 17:16-18] .... never to rise again

The Lord will revisit the continent where the "great city" stood and break it into 3rds and destroy the other cities of the nations during the battle of Armageddon at the end of the tribulation [Revelation 16:18-19]

The other "great" city in Revelation is Jerusalem, the Lord's city and this one is eternal and will never cease to exist [Micah 4; Revelation 11:2-8; 21:1-2]
This is a tremendous failure of interpreting scripture!!!

Augustine's excellent work "The city of God" is a very good read of facts.

The error of the OP is obvious. Why would God refer to nations? He does it because "nations" is a metaphor of the unbelieving world. It has it's referent in the OT as well as the NT.

Now...let's build God's city through scripture:

Paul...Ephesian 2:19-22:
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household,
20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone,
21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord,
22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.


You're CITIZENS! Of what? Of the Israel of God, because Jews and Gentiles are ONE IN CHRIST.

Paul again makes it clear it clear in Galatians 4:21-31...as he reveals the allegory of this matter:
21 Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law?
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman.
23 But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise.
24 This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar.
25 Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children.
26 But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother.
27 For it is written, “Rejoice, barren woman who does not bear; Break forth and shout, you who are not in labor; For more numerous are the children of the desolate Than of the one who has a husband.”
28 And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise.
29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also.
30 But what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, For the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman.”
31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.


Now...Hebrews 12:18-24...which makes it so clear what city BELIEVERS belong to. I will point out the contrast first, with Hebrews 12:18-21:
18 For you have not come to a mountain that can be touched and to a blazing fire, and to darkness and gloom and whirlwind,
19 and to the blast of a trumpet and the sound of words which sound was such that those who heard begged that no further word be spoken to them.
20 For they could not bear the command, “If even a beast touches the mountain, it will be stoned.”
21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, “I am full of fear and trembling.”

This was what is known as the "Sinaitic Covenant", when God delivered the Law to Israel through Moses, which is Exodus 19-24. This is Paul's contrast! He contrast the Old Covenant...to the New Covenant, which is Hebrew 12:22-24 where ALL BELIEVERS are the CITY OF GOD:
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God,the heavenly Jerusalem, and to myriads of angels,
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the Judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.


This is the line in the sand! The CITY OF GOD, in which all believers Jew and Gentile are members...which is why Paul said in Ephesians 2:19:
19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household,

Believers are the CITY OF GOD...which is why New Jerusalem comes down out of heaven as a virgin!!! It's those believers who have gone on before us, as well as us coming with Christ!!!

The USA is nothing but a nation that has believers in it, like every other nation!
 
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Daniel 11 shows a role for the ships of Chittim/Cyrus - the west.
The "ships of Chittim" were Rome! Rome withstood Antiochus Epiphanes when he came the second time to Egypt for battle. He got there to find Rome coming to the defense of Egypt and Antiochus had to back down!

"Ships of Chittim"...just a different name for Rome!
 
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Straightshot said in post 1:

If the world is close to the time of the end, then this must be the USA .....

Note that while the corrupt aspects of the U.S. are included in what Revelation's symbolic "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) represents, it represents much more than just the corrupt aspects of the U.S. For the U.S. just by itself doesn't reign over the kings of the earth (Revelation 17:18). Nor is the U.S. the only place where people buy merchandise (Revelation 18:11). Nor is the U.S. the place where all martyrs have been killed (Revelation 18:24). Nor has the U.S. just by itself corrupted the entire world (Revelation 18:3). Nor has the U.S. been continuously supported by the empires of fallen man throughout history (Revelation 17:9-10). Instead, Revelation's symbolic "Babylon" represents all of mankind's corrupt political (Revelation 17:18), economic (Revelation 18:11), and religious (Revelation 18:24) systems throughout the earth (Revelation 18:3), and throughout history (Revelation 17:9-10).

Nonetheless, the corrupt world-system represented by Revelation's "Babylon" may currently be headquartered in Washington DC and New York City, insofar as Washington DC may currently be "the crowning city" (cf. Isaiah 23:8) of mankind's corrupt politics, the first leg of Revelation's "Babylon" (Revelation 17:18). And New York City may currently be "the crowning city" of mankind's corrupt economics, the 2nd leg of Revelation's "Babylon" (Revelation 18:11). "The crowning city" of mankind's corrupt religions, the 3rd leg of Revelation's "Babylon" (Revelation 18:24), may currently be Jerusalem, as it was back in the 1st century AD (Matthew 23:35-38). Ultimately, all 3 legs of Revelation's "Babylon" will become headquartered in the literal, rebuilt city of Babylon (in Iraq), which the Antichrist, during his future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-18), will make the capital of the world, only to see his city of Babylon ultimately destroyed at Jesus' 2nd coming (Isaiah 13).

Tyre was "the crowning city" of mankind's corrupt economics at one point in ancient times (Isaiah 23:8). God allowed the destruction of ancient Tyre as a lesson, an example, "to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth" (Isaiah 23:9). In the same way, would God allow the future destruction of Washington DC and New York City by terrorist nuclear bombs, as a lesson, an example, "to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth"?

Also, the Bible teaches that, without repentance, what is sown is reaped (Galatians 6:7). And 2 nuclear bombs (developed in the "Manhattan" Project) were sown by the U.S. against 2 major cities in Japan (Hiroshima and Nagasaki) in order to terrorize Japan into surrender during World War II. So could the U.S. in the future reap 2 terrorist nuclear bombs against 2 of its own major cities (including Manhattan)? Could the U.S. avoid this fate by publicly repenting before God and asking him and Japan for forgiveness for the U.S. intentionally targeting and murdering 150,000 innocent civilian men, women, and children living in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Could the 9/11 terrorists being allowed by God to intentionally target and murder 3,000 innocent civilian men, women, and children in New York City's Twin Towers and elsewhere in the U.S. have been just a warning to the U.S., a mere shot across its bow, to try to get the U.S. to repent for what it did to the 2 cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? But could the U.S. continue to refuse to repent for its nuclear terrorism against Japan, leaving the way open for nuclear terrorism against the U.S.?

Also, a "restrainer" must be taken out of the way before the Antichrist can come into worldwide power (2 Thessalonians 2:6-9, Revelation 13:4-18). This restrainer could be a powerful angel like the one who will restrain Satan at Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 20:1-3). It could be Michael the archangel, the angelic prince over Israel (Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:21,13). Michael could also currently be the angelic prince over the U.S., making sure that it supports Israel. Part of Michael's being taken out of the way, just enough to allow the Antichrist to come into worldwide power, could be God removing Michael's protection of the U.S. just enough to allow Washington DC and New York City to be nuked by terrorists. This could weaken the U.S. not only by the destruction of its political and economic capitals, but also by the subsequent run on the U.S. dollar which could occur, rendering it close to worthless in world markets. The U.S. government could then finally go bankrupt, unable to finance any longer its huge debt, economy, and military. Its days as a superpower (but not as a nation) will be over, opening the way for the Antichrist to come into worldwide power (Revelation 13:4-18).

If Washington DC and New York City are attacked with nuclear bombs, will this really be the work of terrorists, such as Islamic jihadis? Or could it be a "false flag" operation, one presented to the world as an Islamic-jihadi attack, when in fact it will have been carefully stage-managed from behind the scenes by a powerful cabal, a worldwide secret society of Gnostic Luciferians, as part of their careful, step-by-step plan to prepare the way for the Antichrist (who is a Gnostic Luciferian: 1 John 4:3, Revelation 13:4) to take over the world?

For example, could the Gnostic Luciferian cabal secretly equip some Islamic-jihadi group in Pakistan with 2 nukes and the means to get them into the U.S. and detonate them in New York City and Washington DC? For example, could the 2 nukes be secretly built in North Korea, secretly sold to Iran, secretly delivered to Iran via a plane crossing China, secretly handed off by Iran to the cabal's Islamic-jihadi group in Pakistan, secretly boated over to Thailand, and then secretly brought into the U.S. via 2 shipping containers from Thailand into the Port Newark, New Jersey Container Terminal? And could the 2 shipping containers have been lined with enough lead so as to thwart any radiation-detectors at the Terminal? And could these shipping containers have been filled mostly with tile, kitty litter, or bananas, which give off a natural radiation, so that if the containers are opened and inspected by hand for radiation, it will be thought that the radiation is just from the tile, kitty litter, or bananas, and not from nuclear bombs packed inside lead sarcophagi hidden in the center of the containers?

Could both containers in this way get past U.S. inspection? (And could the Gnostic Luciferian cabal also be careful to have its own "moles" or hand-picked and extremely-well bribed and blackmailed inspectors on duty when the containers are passing through U.S. inspection, to make sure that the containers don't get scanned by x-rays, or if they do, that any automatic alarms are disabled and that no other inspectors are present?) And after passing inspection, could one of the containers be trucked to a Newark warehouse, where the nuke will be extracted and placed into a smaller, lead-lined, tile-filled delivery truck, which will then be driven into the very heart of Manhattan, where the nuke will be detonated at a pre-arranged time? And could the other container be trucked to an Alexandria, Virginia warehouse, where the nuke will be extracted and placed into a large SUV? Could the SUV then be driven to a small, local airport in northwestern Maryland, where the nuke will be loaded in the dead of night onto a private jet? Could the jet then be flown low, under radar, down the Potomac, into the very heart of Washington DC, where the nuke will be detonated at the same time as the one in Manhattan?

(And even besides this, could a 3rd, nuke-containing shipping container from Thailand end up in a vast shipping-container lot in the Port of Long Beach, California, right next to Los Angeles? And could the Gnostic Luciferian cabal not even bother to have the nuke extracted and driven into or flown over downtown Los Angeles, but simply have the nuke detonated right there in Long Beach harbor (at the same time as the one in Manhattan), so that it completely destroys the major west coast port of the U.S., and wipes out much of hugely-populated Los Angeles and Orange Counties? And could the Gnostic Luciferian cabal's puppet-"Islamic terrorists" claim that they nuked Los Angeles because it contains Hollywood, and contains the San Fernando Valley, a center for pornographic video production, so that Los Angeles has contributed greatly to the corrupt entertainment culture which dominates the world today, even in Islamic countries behind closed doors?)

Regarding Jerusalem getting destroyed, at the very end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, the Antichrist (Daniel 11:45) and the world's armies will attack and pillage Jerusalem, right before Jesus' 2nd coming (Zechariah 14:2-21). And at the 2nd coming there will be tremendous earth changes in the vicinity of Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:4-5). These events could result in all of Jerusalem's structures, including a 3rd Jewish temple (which will be built) and the Wailing Wall (also called the Western Wall) being completely broken down so that not one stone will be left upon another throughout the city (Luke 19:44). Then the returned Jesus (Zechariah 14:4, Acts 1:11-12) will rebuild Jerusalem in righteousness and make it the capital of the world (Zechariah 14:8-19, Micah 4:1-4), during his literal, 1,000-year physical reign on the earth with the physically resurrected church (Revelation 20:4-6, Revelation 5:10, Revelation 2:26-29).
 
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Daniel 11 shows a role for the ships of Chittim/Cyrus - the west.

The ships of Chittim in Daniel 11:30 could refer antitypically to ships of the huge U.S. Navy, which by that time in the future could have established a major U.S. naval base on Cyprus.

Also, by the time of Daniel 11:40-45, which will be right near the end of the Antichrist's time, the U.S. could be included as part of the "king of the south" which will rebel against him. For the U.S., as well as other countries such as Russia, China, India, and Japan, may not ever come under the same level of control as the Middle East, North Africa, and Europe will during the Antichrist's worldwide reign. But the U.S., as well as all other countries of the earth, will still come under the hegemony of the Antichrist (Revelation 13:7-8, Matthew 24:9).

What could happen is that during the Antichrist's worldwide reign, the U.S. will be under complete martial law, still controlled by U.S. soldiers, but under the economic thumb of the Antichrist. For during the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, the U.S. government could go bankrupt and the U.S. dollar could become next to worthless in world markets, so that the U.S. will eventually become completely dependent on the Antichrist for its finances and trade.

The way that the U.S. could be considered a part of the "king of the south" in Daniel 11:40 is through the U.S.' current hegemony over Egypt, which is the king of the south in Daniel 11:5-17. At the start of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, Egypt could be completely defeated and occupied, along with Israel, by an Iraqi Baathist General leading a huge Iraqi Army (Daniel 11:15-17; in verse 17 the original Hebrew word translated as "daughter" is "bath"). After this happens, the U.S. could take up the mantle of Egypt and Israel and attempt a counter-attack to liberate them from Baathist control. But this counter-attack could fail so miserably that the U.S. could forego any further attacks.

It is at this point that the Antichrist could arise on the world stage (Daniel 11:21) and "cut" a peace treaty with a future, ultra-Orthodox Jewish false "Messiah" (Daniel 9:26a,27a) ruling Jerusalem, after the Antichrist has defeated that Messiah and his followers (Daniel 11:22-23a). About 7 years later, sometime after the legal end of the Antichrist's literal 3.5-year worldwide reign (Revelation 13:5-8), not only could the U.S. as the "king of the south" try to attack the Antichrist (Daniel 11:40), but so could Russia, China, India, and Japan. For "tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many" (Daniel 11:44).
 
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USA = Babylon the Great

After 1945, when much of Europe and Asia was in ruins...
the USA arose as queen of the planet. The seven rays
on the crown of the Statue of Liberty symbolize the seven
seas and seven continents of the planet.

The rise of the USA to total global power also dovetails with
ancient Babylon whose 70 year rule began with the death in
battle of righteous King Josiah and ended when God's anointed
king from the east, Cyrus, conquered Babylon.


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USA = Babylon the Great

After 1945, when much of Europe and Asia was in ruins...
the USA arose as queen of the planet. The seven rays
on the crown of the Statue of Liberty symbolize the seven
seas and seven continents of the planet.

The rise of the USA to total global power also dovetails with
ancient Babylon whose 70 year rule began with the death in
battle of righteous King Josiah and ended when God's anointed
king from the east, Cyrus, conquered Babylon.


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Babylon the great harlot is Moscow which sits on 7 hills and many waters (5 seas).
The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th horseman, that is, the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth for Jesus. Our weapons bring hell and death.
 
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Babylon the great harlot is Moscow which sits on 7 hills and many waters (5 seas).
The US, founded by George Washington who rode a pale horse, is the 4th horseman, that is, the 4th Christian superpower to rule the earth for Jesus. Our weapons bring hell and death.


The seven hills and many waters in Rev... also symbolize the seven
continents and seven seas... which symbolize global rule over all
the people of the planet.

The "cold war" between east and west was contrived nuclear blackmail
created to bring all the other nations of the planet under the rule of
Babylon's global political, economic, military, cultural and spiritual rule.
Once Mystery Babylon controlled the entire planet, it had no more use
for it's soviet controlled opposition... so the USSR was dissolved.

70 years later... we are there.


Btw... like most of the USA's founding fathers who were freemasons
and deists... Washington was a freemason.

In the church I was baptized, freemasons and deists are not considered
to be Christians.


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America was not and is not in any prophecy or apocalyptic writing. The known world at the time consisted of the Roman Empire and surrounding regions, so everything relates to provinces within and without the Roman Empire - but not the New World. The fact is, although the indigenous peoples migrated to America some 12,000 years ago, the New World didn't enter the global consciousness until at least some 1,200-1,300 years after the authoring of scripture.

So believing that America is anywhere in the biblical text is a case in eisegesis.

It would be prudent to restructure how you understand apocalyptic texts (Daniel, Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation) and understand that they're symbolic texts. Revelation, for instance, was written by John to communicate incognito and give comfort to his fellow Christians scattered around the Roman Empire. To console them and help them remember that the Roman Empire (the system of oppression and exploitation) had been defeated by Christ's death and resurrection. Therefore, despite the trials and tribulations we face, take heart in the fact that Christ is victorious and we share in that victory.

We look forward to the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
 
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Bible prophecy is written in symbolic form...

The book of Revelation calls the end time global evil empire, Babylon,
because of the associated symbolism both to the tower of Babel...
and to the ancient Babylonian empire. Mystery Babylon is the third,
last, GLOBAL incarnation of the same demented satanic philosophies
and abominations.

For example: Rev 16:12 speaks about drying up the Euphrates river
to prepare the way for the kings from the east. THIS is exactly how
God's anointed king, Cyrus, conquered Babylon... by drying up the
Euphrates river enabling Cyrus' troops to secretly invade Babylon
in a surprise attack. Ancient Greek historians wrote a lot about Cyrus.
Israelites in Christ's day would have been familiar with Persian and Greek
history... because it was also part of their own history.


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Babylon the great harlot is Moscow which sits on 7 hills and many waters (5 seas).

Note that the "many waters" in Revelation 17:1 represent "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues" (Revelation 17:15).

Also, while the corrupt aspects of Moscow are included in what Revelation's symbolic "Babylon" (Revelation chapters 17-18) represents, it represents much more than just the corrupt aspects of Moscow. For Moscow just by itself doesn't reign over the kings of the earth (Revelation 17:18). Nor is Moscow the only place where people buy merchandise (Revelation 18:11). Nor is Moscow the place where all martyrs have been killed (Revelation 18:24). Nor has Moscow just by itself corrupted the entire world (Revelation 18:3). Nor has Moscow been continuously supported by the empires of fallen man throughout history (Revelation 17:9-10). Instead, Revelation's symbolic "Babylon" represents all of mankind's corrupt political (Revelation 17:18), economic (Revelation 18:11), and religious (Revelation 18:24) systems throughout the earth (Revelation 18:3), and throughout history (Revelation 17:9-10).

The 10 kings of the Antichrist's empire will destroy with fire what Revelation's "Babylon" represents (Revelation 17:16-17) when they destroy the cities of the nations (Revelation 16:19), probably with nukes (and probably with Fission-Fusion-Fission, "FFF", or "666", nukes, "F" representing the number six in English gematria), at the time of the 7th vial (Revelation 16:17,19), which will be the final event (Revelation 16:17) of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, right before Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 19:2 to 20:6, Matthew 24:29-31). They could do this under the direction of Lucifer/Satan (Isaiah 14:17,12), who could want to leave only a literal "scorched earth" for Jesus to return to.

Near the very end of the future tribulation, Lucifer (employing the ancient lies of Gnosticism) could say to the Antichrist and his 10 kings something like: "Our great battle against the evil, tyrant god YHWH is about to begin [Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19], a battle which we will win, and so we will be able to escape YHWH's prison house, this material universe, and return to the wholly-spiritual Pleroma [i.e. Heaven]. So let us now destroy this prison cell, this foul planet, and let us, as it were, burn up all the gewgaws which we have hung upon our cell walls. Let us burn up all our great cities, all our magnificent systems. Let us break all our chains of attachment to this vile physical realm, that we might more freely ascend back to our rightful place in the Pleroma [cf. Isaiah 14:13-14]".

Of course this will be a lie. For at his 2nd coming, Jesus (who is YHWH: John 10:30, Zechariah 14:3-4) will completely defeat the world's armies, arrayed against YHWH (Revelation 16:14, Revelation 19:19-21). And Jesus will have Lucifer bound in the bottomless pit during the subsequent 1,000 years (Revelation 20:1-6, Isaiah 14:15). And Jesus will restore ruined parts of the earth and make them like the Garden of Eden (Ezekiel 36:35, Isaiah 51:3). And after the 1,000 years and subsequent events (Revelation 20:7-15), God will create a new heaven (a new 1st heaven, a new sky/atmosphere for the earth) and a new earth (a new surface for the earth) (Revelation 21:1). And then God will descend from the 3rd heaven in the literal city of New Jerusalem to live with saved humanity on the new earth (Revelation 21:2-4).
 
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