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People argue against me a lot, all religions. Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

Everyone flips out over this saying it's impossible, it's not, its just a choice. But I swear until you do that you will not know God, before or after death.

James 4:4
 

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People argue against me a lot, all religions. Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

Everyone flips out over this saying it's impossible, it's not, its just a choice. But I swear until you do that you will not know God, before or after death.

James 4:4

I agree with this actually, and that forgiveness (which to me is an act of love) is simply a choice Sometimes it is more difficult, but whenever the supposed wrong comes to mind, you just have to make the conscious choice to forgive them.

"Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." (1 John 4:7-8, NIV)
 
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Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

God created time, space, energy and matter. He did this while being outside of the universe he created. That the universe has a begining is seen from science and it follows that something made it happen.

We can only know this being if he makes himself known to us.

We learn about this being, about God through Jesus.

How willing are you to give up the beliefs you cling strongly to and to learn about Jesus?
 
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People argue against me a lot, all religions. Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

Everyone flips out over this saying it's impossible, it's not, its just a choice. But I swear until you do that you will not know God, before or after death.

James 4:4

I would say you know a truth. A truth I am familiar with and assent to being a truth. I disagree that it is the only one as my life experience is contradictory to that . I know from that same life experience that forgiveness for anything is possible. I have seen it happen. But because one thing is true does not mean that nothing else can be true as well. I think you have not proven your case that only one thing is true. Additionally, I cannot see how you can swear to being knowledgeable of the certainty of what others will or will not know in the future . I do not think it is humanly possible to dictate to others what will be their fate. Unless you are claiming a divine nature or a direct revelation from a divine source, I cannot understand why you would make such a statement.
 
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I would say you know a truth. A truth I am familiar with and assent to being a truth. I disagree that it is the only one as my life experience is contradictory to that . I know from that same life experience that forgiveness for anything is possible. I have seen it happen. But because one thing is true does not mean that nothing else can be true as well. I think you have not proven your case that only one thing is true. Additionally, I cannot see how you can swear to being knowledgeable of the certainty of what others will or will not know in the future . I do not think it is humanly possible to dictate to others what will be their fate. Unless you are claiming a divine nature or a direct revelation from a divine source, I cannot understand why you would make such a statement.

Words can not prove it, only the individual who makes themselves worthy can gain proof for themselves. I'm not saying forgiveness is THE truth, I'm saying it is a valuable tool to see it for yourself. The truth, reality itself cannot be described with words. And yes I am claiming to have accessed divinity, temporarily being able to perform miracles. It was done by reaching for that level of forgiveness, paired with the willingness to surrender my fabricated reality in exchange. As long as you value what you have now more than what you can have, you will never be given more, we have free will.

What does not exist for eternity, does not exist at all.
 
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Words can not prove it, only the individual who makes themselves worthy can gain proof for themselves. I'm not saying forgiveness is THE truth, I'm saying it is a valuable tool to see it for yourself. The truth, reality itself cannot be described with words. And yes I am claiming to have accessed divinity, temporarily being able to perform miracles. It was done by reaching for that level of forgiveness, paired with the willingness to surrender my fabricated reality in exchange. As long as you value what you have now more than what you can have, you will never be given more, we have free will.

What does not exist for eternity, does not exist at all.

If you now say that you are not saying that there is only one truth then you now disagree with yourself when you said earlier.
there is only one truth
Since your previous position has not lasted for eternity I must assume you would say it did not exist at all.
 
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If you now say that you are not saying that there is only one truth then you now disagree with yourself when you said earlier.

Since your previous position has not lasted for eternity I must assume you would say it did not exist at all.

What did you misunderstand exactly? This reply does not make sense. I have not contradicted myself. Beliefs are not truths but faith is necessary. It is sin to believe a belief is true while absent from the Truth as it will keep you from seeking it, being content with fabrication.

If you are thinking 'well how would one recognize the truth?' It is great and erases all doubt, anyone who doubts should not be content.

Just like a scientist would not accept a theory as being true without evidence, faith should be treated as a theory requiring proof.

Matthew 7:7-8
James 1:6
 
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What did you misunderstand exactly? This reply does not make sense. I have not contradicted myself. Beliefs are not truths but faith is necessary. It is sin to believe a belief is true while absent from the Truth as it will keep you from seeking it, being content with fabrication.

If you are thinking 'well how would one recognize the truth?' It is great and erases all doubt, anyone who doubts should not be content.

Matthew 7:7-8
James 1:6

Is there only one truth or is there more than one thing that could be called the truth? Either one or the other is correct. Which one do you say is the correct one?

I would s add that anyone who does not doubt should not be content.
 
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Is there only one truth or is there more than one thing that could be called the truth? Either one or the other is correct. Which one do you say is the correct one?
There's only one true reality and it is far from what you are currently choosing to accept.

I would s add that anyone who does not doubt should not be content.
So you disagree with James 1:6 ?
I strongly suggest you have faith in what I'm saying now because it is required, I understand the skepticism, I'm used to it but I'm aware of the actual truth that Jesus himself was attempting to teach, It is unwise to hold your own creations in higher regard than God's.

Who sustains religions? Normal every day humans like yourself, you are putting your faith in them over God itself.
 
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There's only one true reality and it is far from what you are currently choosing to accept.


So you disagree with James 1:6 ?
I strongly suggest you have faith in what I'm saying now because it is required, I understand the skepticism, I'm used to it but I'm aware of the actual truth that Jesus himself was attempting to teach, It is unwise to hold your own creations in higher regard than God's.

Who sustains religions? Normal every day humans like yourself, you are putting your faith in them over God itself.

Have you heard of the term hubris?
 
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People argue against me a lot, all religions. Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

Everyone flips out over this saying it's impossible, it's not, its just a choice. But I swear until you do that you will not know God, before or after death.

James 4:4

That's what antichrist would say , it looks good that we should forgive everybody but actually that is not the truth , the truth is Jesus Christ because only he can forgive you and without him you can't forgive others .
 
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That's what antichrist would say , it looks good that we should forgive everybody but actually that is not the truth , the truth is Jesus Christ because only he can forgive you and without him you can't forgive others .

You are reciting things you have learned, not what you have seen. In truth all is already forgiven, God itself has no need to forgive as it is already part of His law. By failing to forgive, you are failing to follow His law. Not the other way around.

It's all in the bible, but modern religions have been built around misinterpretations, ignoring the important things and shining light on things that don't really make any logical sense. You cannot follow other humans and get to God, it is simply not possible. If you think you are correct but don't know for certain, then you are not.

I searched for truth, not words or a religious 'ego high' and found it. My knowledge came before reading the bible, but the bible aligns perfectly with it, though much of it is very cryptic, so I know the bible is real. God did not vanish from the face of the earth after it was written.

Much of the things religious people say don't really make sense, like a 2 year old reading a textbook on rocket science, even if they read it they would just be reciting random phrases but still have no real grasp on the subject as a whole.
 
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People argue against me a lot, all religions.
No wonder. How does a Pantheist have a glorified Christ in his avatar :rolleyes:

Getting back to your comment on forgiveness, that is a basic Christian principle.
 
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No wonder. How does a Pantheist have a glorified Christ in his avatar :rolleyes:

Getting back to your comment on forgiveness, that is a basic Christian principle.

Jesus is still the leader of earth. A basic principle which none take seriously (enough). If they did they would be agreeing with me about it's importance, instead you defend your religion, you defend your beliefs holding them in higher regard than what God actually wants, and guard yourself from the Truth.

I have been preaching this for a long time and not once did someone come back and say 'I have found no value in forgiveness'. Only ones who don't try and say its impossible or pointless. You can serve God, or stories of Him, one will make the other impossible.
 
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People argue against me a lot, all religions. Because they cling so strongly to their beliefs, all different thousands and thousands of different beliefs even on an individual level within the individual religions. But there is only one truth and the way to it is simply to gain the capacity to forgive anyone for anything no matter what.

Everyone flips out over this saying it's impossible, it's not, its just a choice. But I swear until you do that you will not know God, before or after death.

James 4:4
I'd opt out of forgiveness for understanding.

Understand your enemy, not forgive them. You don't need to worry about forgiving people once you understand them properly. Because forgiveness won't prevent someone from hurting you again, and you'll be left with forgiving & forgiving over and over (Round & round you go) But if you understand why people treat you bad, you will learn how to deal with them.
 
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I'd opt out of forgiveness for understanding.

Understand your enemy, not forgive them. You don't need to worry about forgiving people once you understand them properly. Because forgiveness won't prevent someone from hurting you again, and you'll be left with forgiving & forgiving over and over (Round & round you go) But if you understand why people treat you bad, you will learn how to deal with them.

When done correctly, no one can hurt you.
 
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When done correctly, no one can hurt you.
I wouldn't say that, no, people can still hurt you. It's understanding why they hurt you that helps a lot more. Knowing the why's gives you the ability to overcome & not be susceptible to the same attack. Forgiveness doesn't teach you anything about why or what's happening to you. It's the same emotional reaction you use to cope with someone, and all the while being left vulnerable.
 
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I wouldn't say that, no, people can still hurt you. It's understanding why they hurt you that helps a lot more. Knowing the why's gives you the ability to overcome & not be susceptible to the same attack. Forgiveness doesn't teach you anything about why or what's happening to you. It's the same emotional reaction you use to cope with someone, and all the while being left vulnerable.

Matthew 18:21-22

If you value your opinions more, that is your choice. I am pointing the way but it is your decision to follow it or not. It leads to divinity, the exact opposite of vulnerability.

Lacking forgiveness is what harms you. The world is a reflection of yourself, what you have created. The goal is to give that up for what God has created and see more than your just own reflection.

If you flip someone off, give them the finger out of hate, it is exactly like standing in front of a mirror flipping yourself off because you are currently blind to reality. You are in your own delusional world which you created as is everyone else, it is built atop what always was and will be.
 
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Matthew 18:21-22

If you value your opinions more, that is your choice. I am pointing the way but it is your decision to follow it or not. It leads to divinity, the exact opposite of vulnerability.

Lacking forgiveness is what harms you. The world is a reflection of yourself, what you have created. The goal is to give that up for what God has created and see more than your just own reflection.
OK, lets leave it there.
 
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