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The riots of January 6 were a gross effort by evil people to cause grave damage. which they have succeeded in doing. But the following facts have come out, even on the left leaning media networks!

1. Trump was heard to tell the rally to be peaceful in voicing their opposition
2. The assault on the capitol began before the rally had even ended.
3. The capitol police and Pelosi and McConnel were informed days earlier of a very credible threat and did nothing.
4. Extremists group were plotting this weeks in advance without Trump knowing or particiapting.
5. FBI in several states brought all this info early enough for D.C. to thwart this.

This latest impeachment was a kangaroo court! Four hours to impeach! No witnesses, no defense, no recordings. Just a rush to a pre concluded end! The left must be terribly afraid of Trump! and as a result we have the following things that politicians on the left are speaking of or trying to introduce as legislation:

1. Enemies lists- all who were hired under Trump to be fired and stripped of benefits earned.
2. RE-education camps- taking conservatives to re train them
3. Blanket no fly lists. Anyone found on the capitol grounds to be banned from flying.
4. Wholesale censorship by big tech media of conservative thought.
5. Threatening conservative politicians with serious political retribution if they don't agree to ban Trump.

As Christians we serve a much higher authority but these are dangerous times in America. We are in uncharted territory politically. One party is seeking to seize control of all switches of power and control.

Just remember after they have dealt with their political enemies, they will come after their moral, philosophical, religious enemies-Bible believing Christians. Time to prepare by drawing nigh unto god!
 

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You left out the fact that the majority of stormers were Trump supporters who were inspired by weeks of his rhetoric.

This is just another "rabbit hole" ... we live in an alex jones - quanon country so that grasping at whatever to give feckless support works well with one's unfettered bias.
 
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I cannot wait until 12:01 on January 20th

Sure you can. Actually, you'll have to.

"Tropical Winds" "Lord, beer me strength"??? If not a typo, then just add another beer to the statements just preceding.
 
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Sure you can. Actually, you'll have to.

"Tropical Winds" "Lord, beer me strength"??? If not a typo, then just add another beer to the statements just preceding.
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You left out the fact that the majority of stormers were Trump supporters who were inspired by weeks of his rhetoric.
It probably was best not to include falsehoods in a post the purpose of which was to correct disinformation.
 
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There we have one answer to the impatience... Please balance all recommendations with Scripture. Thank you Tigger Saint Joseph.
 
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A Reporter’s Footage from Inside the Capitol Siege

Takes you inside. Let me know if you see any Trump supporters.

"You are out numbered. There are a #$#* million of us out there. And we are listening to Trump, your boss."

"They can steal and election but we can't sit in that chair?"

Looking at papers in desks: "Ted Cruz was going to sell us our all along."

At 7:53 their prayer.
 
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That there were people inside the building sporting Trump signs or banners does not come close to proving the sweeping indictment you made in your post. And that is not the case simply because of a single claim of dubious merit. Rather, there are a number of errors in the message that I replied to.
 
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You left out the fact that the majority of stormers were Trump supporters who were inspired by weeks of his rhetoric.


Well that rhetoric is the same that all politicians have used since the founding of this nation and is protected by the first amendment.

they did not act on the behest of Trump or anything Trump said to do! Once they conspired to storm the capitol, they acted against Trump and just became evil doers.

Just like antifa and BLM, they are liberal groups supported and praised by liberal politicians (VP Harris even came out and said they should not stop their rioting, looting, arson, killing and seizing control by force of government buildings) So should we hold her responsible for people who supported her? Or is what they did an accepted form of insurrection?
 
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You left out the fact that the majority of stormers were Trump supporters who were inspired by weeks of his rhetoric.


I would love to see you list teh rhetoric that would be considered incitement to insurrection! That is a very legal term which has a specific legal definition. So Trump telling his rallies to fight and march peacefully and saying the election was stolen does not count, unless you can prove that Trump was deliberately lying when he says the election was stolen.

This was being planned for weeks. Even FBI agents form several states and weeks in advance said that these extremists groups were going to use the Trump rally as an excuse to cause trouble. These were ot real supporters but rabble rousers using teh rally as an excuse to do their dastardly deeds.
 
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We know for a fact that there was a mix of political motives at work in the Capitol mob and that the mob was not part of the thousands of people who gathered to see and hear the President.
 
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I would love to see you list teh rhetoric that would be considered incitement to insurrection!
I am not going to sift through his ramblings. You know full well all he has said.
 
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I cannot wait until 12:01 on January 20th.

Well I am tired of teh left doing near 24/7 non stop Trump hating and using impeachment as a tool so that now anyone can be in
Not according to them. Listen to the video. "You are out numbered. There are a #$#* million of us out there. And we are listening to Trump, your boss."


So you believe them that Trump was the ringleader? WOw do I have some land to sell you just south of the Florida Keys!

So you are saying that Trump- who was smeared by the left for being so law enforcement and showring praise and accolades on law enforcement, in the last month of his administration turn on them and incite intentionally ti go and knowingly do harm to law enforcement officers? Evidence?

Show me one place where Trump even alluded to attempting to kill his opposition or seek to overturn the government? I will take one direct quote .
 
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I am not going to sift through his ramblings. You know full well all he has said.


Nice dodge.

You know what he said, but won't present your evidence. Just like Pelosi and her ilk- guilty until proven innocent.

Welcome to Amerika comrade!!!!!! We have left our system of justice for banana republic juntas where you are convicted without even the semblence of a real trial.
 
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Nice dodge.

You know what he said, but won't present your evidence. Just like Pelosi and her ilk- guilty until proven innocent.

Welcome to Amerika comrade!!!!!! We have left our system of justice for banana republic juntas where you are convicted without even the semblence of a real trial.
I will let the congress do that work. It is not up to me. As I said, I am certainly not going to wade through his ramblings. Why would I want to do that. to prove a point to you? Not worth it.
 
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Not to mention the pro-Trump Insurrectionists who were chanting "HANG MIKE PENCE!" A Reuters photographer says he overheard pro-Trump insurrectionists saying they wanted to hang Mike Pence at the Capitol. Thank God they didn't find Pence, who was hiding with his family. Below is the noose the Insurrectionists erected outside of the Capitol building. They wanted to execute him as a traitor.

Pro-Trump rioters who stormed the Capitol came within seconds of seeing Pence and his family, report says and How the rioters who stormed the Capitol came dangerously close to Pence.

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The riots of January 6 were a gross effort by evil people to cause grave damage. which they have succeeded in doing. But the following facts have come out, even on the left leaning media networks!

1. Trump was heard to tell the rally to be peaceful in voicing their opposition
2. The assault on the capitol began before the rally had even ended.
3. The capitol police and Pelosi and McConnel were informed days earlier of a very credible threat and did nothing.
4. Extremists group were plotting this weeks in advance without Trump knowing or particiapting.
5. FBI in several states brought all this info early enough for D.C. to thwart this.

This latest impeachment was a kangaroo court! Four hours to impeach! No witnesses, no defense, no recordings. Just a rush to a pre concluded end! The left must be terribly afraid of Trump! and as a result we have the following things that politicians on the left are speaking of or trying to introduce as legislation:

1. Enemies lists- all who were hired under Trump to be fired and stripped of benefits earned.
2. RE-education camps- taking conservatives to re train them
3. Blanket no fly lists. Anyone found on the capitol grounds to be banned from flying.
4. Wholesale censorship by big tech media of conservative thought.
5. Threatening conservative politicians with serious political retribution if they don't agree to ban Trump.

As Christians we serve a much higher authority but these are dangerous times in America. We are in uncharted territory politically. One party is seeking to seize control of all switches of power and control.

Just remember after they have dealt with their political enemies, they will come after their moral, philosophical, religious enemies-Bible believing Christians. Time to prepare by drawing nigh unto god!

If this was a joke it wouldn't be funny. Unfortunately, I believe you're serious.

Do you really think that those violent nuts that stormed into the Capitol carrying Christian flags are acting in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ???

One thing that we agree upon: They will be coming after anyone and everyone who opposes their violent, delusional "Christianity" (including you). After they have dealt with their political enemies, they will come after the moral, philosophical, religious enemies: Bible believing Christians.
 
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