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The truth behind Planned Parenthood

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wintermile

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I feel like I've been Rick Rolled. That is the Corbett Report.

What information in particular do you feel can't be ignored?

The Sanger objectives are not suitable and as Corbett refuted are not scientifically supported.

Instead of ignoring what was documented, I prefer learning more about Sanger’s influence and the unprofessional services PP offers.

Whereas some may be motivated to read Stoddard’s Tide Of Color Against White World-Supremacy, I am motivated to listen to the MAAFA 21 documentary and brace myself to read Sanger’s work. I recall Corbett’s interview with Rev. Clenard Childress when Childress stated Sanger called “colored people human weeds”. It is not a bad idea to learn how Sanger became a racist and eugenicist. Sanger's objectives influence the abortion industry currently.

“The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.”

“All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class.”


“It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilized by harmless and scientific means.”


“In this way the moron and the diseased would have no posterity to inherit their unhappy condition. The number of the feeble-minded would decrease and a heavy burden would be lifted from the shoulders of the fit.”

“The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach.” “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”​


With 500,000,000 in profits and corporate donations, PP can continue “racial, eugenic” objectives; however, government funding can cease and political pressure can address the discriminatory objectives.
 
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The Sanger objectives are not suitable and as Corbett refuted are not scientifically supported.

Instead of ignoring what was documented, I prefer learning more about Sanger’s influence and the unprofessional services PP offers.

Whereas some may be motivated to read Stoddard’s Tide Of Color Against White World-Supremacy, I am motivated to listen to the MAAFA 21 documentary and brace myself to read Sanger’s work. I recall Corbett’s interview with Rev. Clenard Childress when Childress stated Sanger called “colored people human weeds”. It is not a bad idea to learn how Sanger became a racist and eugenicist. Sanger's objectives influence the abortion industry currently.

“The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.”

“All of our problems are the result of overbreeding among the working class.”


“It now remains for the U.S. government to set a sensible example to the world by offering a bonus or yearly pension to all obviously unfit parents who allow themselves to be sterilized by harmless and scientific means.”


“In this way the moron and the diseased would have no posterity to inherit their unhappy condition. The number of the feeble-minded would decrease and a heavy burden would be lifted from the shoulders of the fit.”

“The minister’s work is also important and he should be trained, perhaps by the Federation as to our ideals and the goal that we hope to reach.” “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”​


With 500,000,000 in profits and corporate donations, PP can continue “racial, eugenic” objectives; however, government funding can cease and political pressure can address the discriminatory objectives.

Then I think the fine Rev. Clenard Childress who ever he is, should check his sources rather then once again have more Christians baring false witness against another as Jesus commanded not to. That quote is nowhere to be found in the book by Sanger it is said to be in.


I mean I stopped right there.
 
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Then I think the fine Rev. Clenard Childress who ever he is, should check his sources rather then once again have more Christians baring false witness against another as Jesus commanded not to. That quote is nowhere to be found in the book by Sanger it is said to be in.


I mean I stopped right there.

What book are you referring to? Sanger's quotes prompt individuals to read all of her work.
 
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What book are you referring to? Sanger's quotes prompt individuals to read all of her work.

The quote you sourced from the Rev Clenard Childress goes back to a book of Sanger, which I as noted and as essentialsaltes noted directly, the quote is false.

I mean, if one is going to disparage the dead with attributions, one would I think make sure the disparagement true. But not the Reverend, and not those who repeat it.
 
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What matters now is the good that PP does for the poor and women of all economic ranks, in giving them access to choice and health care.

Individuals are concerned about why PP's clinics are in numerous minority communities and why race-specific donations are accepted.

In the video I posted, the false dilemma fallacy was discussed. Offering something of value (breast cancer screening procedures) does not excuse discriminatory objectives.

Are tubal ligation procedures and vasectomies offered at PP?
 
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The quote you sourced from the Rev Clenard Childress goes back to a book of Sanger, which I as noted and as essentialsaltes noted directly, the quote is false.

I mean, for one is going to disparage the dead with attributions, one would I think make sure the disparagement true. But not the Reverend, and not those who repeat it.

I will check what source Rev. Clenard used to quote Sanger. I am not going to take your word for it.

This is what I said.

"I recall Corbett’s interview with Rev. Clenard Childress when Childress stated Sanger called “colored people human weeds”. It is not a bad idea to learn how Sanger became a racist and eugenicist. Sanger's objectives influence the abortion industry currently."
 
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Individuals are concerned about why PP's clinics are in numerous minority communities and why race-specific donations are accepted.
Individuals tend to be concerned about a great many things relative to reproduction that is not their business.

Why shouldn't minority communities have access to Planned Parenthood?


In the video I posted, the false dilemma fallacy was discussed. Offering something of value (breast cancer screening procedures) does not excuse discriminatory objectives.
Prejudice makes that judgment.
Usually from people who think abortion, reproductive services, should not be made available to women generally.
The double edge hypocrisy related to this particular issue is that of claims that PP is set up in poor neighborhoods, which is the fallacy. And that PP offers birth control counseling and elective procedures on demand.

So while there is the question, false accusation, that PP is set up in poor or minority neighborhoods and that should be seen as a racist agenda drive marketing choice, there are those who complain that those minorities who have children and subscribe to government support programs, are parasites on the system.

Accusations about PP in minority neighborhoods. Condemnation for minorities on public support for their family.
Those who are against a woman's right to choose complain that PP is in minority neighborhoods, while those same people complain those women that chose to have their baby are now receiving welfare so as to support that choice?
How does that actually make sense?

Are tubal ligation procedures and vasectomies offered at PP?
I'd certainly hope so.

Sterilization for Women (Tubal Sterilization)



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I will check what source Rev. Clenard used to quote Sanger. I am not going to take your word for it.

This is what I said.

"I recall Corbett’s interview with Rev. Clenard Childress when Childress stated Sanger called “colored people human weeds”. It is not a bad idea to learn how Sanger became a racist and eugenicist. Sanger's objectives influence the abortion industry currently."

...and that quote is false, but go ahead and do what you didn't do with someone disparaging the dead and source check it.

I will await the results you come up with.
 
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...and that quote is false, but go ahead and do what you didn't do with someone disparaging the dead and source check it.

I will await the results you come up with.

I am at Project Gutenberg reading Sanger's The Pivot of Civilization right now.

What I do not understand is why there are numerous citations referring to this work as the source of the same quote.
 
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Individuals tend to be concerned about a great many things relative to reproduction that is not their business.

Why shouldn't minority communities have access to Planned Parenthood?


Prejudice makes that judgment.
Usually from people who think abortion, reproductive services, should not be made available to women generally.
The double edge hypocrisy related to this particular issue is that of claims that PP is set up in poor neighborhoods, which is the fallacy. And that PP offers birth control counseling and elective procedures on demand.

So while there is the question, false accusation, that PP is set up in poor or minority neighborhoods and that should be seen as a racist agenda drive marketing choice, there are those who complain that those minorities who have children and subscribe to government support programs, are parasites on the system.

Accusations about PP in minority neighborhoods. Condemnation for minorities on public support for their family.
Those who are against a woman's right to choose complain that PP is in minority neighborhoods, while those same people complain those women that chose to have their baby are now receiving welfare so as to support that choice?
How does that actually make sense?

I'd certainly hope so.

Sterilization for Women (Tubal Sterilization)



Vasectomy

The individuals I am referring to are concerned about PP's discriminatory practices (that have been documented). You are referring to individuals that flip flop when it suits their interests.

Are you claiming PP offers tubial ligation procedures and vasectomies?


Neither are listed as options.
 
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The individuals I am referring to are concerned about PP's discriminatory practices (that have been documented). You are referring to individuals that flip flop when it suits their interests.

Are you claiming PP offers tubial ligation procedures and vasectomies?


Neither are listed as options.
uhmmm...actually they're both listed on that site you posted. :wave:
tubal ligation at planned parenthood
Tubal Ligation (a.k.a. Female Sterilization) - Hi! We're Planned Parenthood

and vasectomies are also listed:
Vasectomy - Procedure, Cost & Effectiveness
I pasted vasectomies into their search engine and it came right up. :sorry:
tulc(is just sayn') :cool:
 
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Are you claiming PP offers tubial ligation procedures and vasectomies?

"Some Planned Parenthood health centers provide tubal sterilization, and some don’t, depending on staffing and facility capabilities and the availability of these services in the community. Contact your local Planned Parenthood health center to find out about what services they offer. If they don’t offer tubal sterilization services, they may be able to refer you to another health care provider who does."
 
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The individuals I am referring to are concerned about PP's discriminatory practices (that have been documented). You are referring to individuals that flip flop when it suits their interests.

Are you claiming PP offers tubial ligation procedures and vasectomies?


Neither are listed as options.


uhmmm...actually they're both listed on that site you posted. :wave:
tubal ligation at planned parenthood
Tubal Ligation (a.k.a. Female Sterilization) - Hi! We're Planned Parenthood

and vasectomies are also listed:
Vasectomy - Procedure, Cost & Effectiveness
I pasted vasectomies into their search engine and it came right up. :sorry:
tulc(is just sayn') :cool:

"Some Planned Parenthood health centers provide tubal sterilization, and some don’t, depending on staffing and facility capabilities and the availability of these services in the community. Contact your local Planned Parenthood health center to find out about what services they offer. If they don’t offer tubal sterilization services, they may be able to refer you to another health care provider who does."

Well that settles that. ^_^
 
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