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Dont you have any other things to discuss. This had been yawned before:
Dont you have any other things to discuss. This had been yawned before:
http://www.christianforums.com/t3337376
somthing that ponders my mind. when there were crusades between christians and muslims 1000 years ago, the christians disobayed what the bible said. they went to war even though jesus obviously said "whoever lives by the sword dies by the sword". the christians disobayed gods law.
the muslims obayed gods law as to what the prothet muhumid (please forgive spelling) saying whoever is an infidel is an ememy and deserves death.
Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 "We carried Ka'b's head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah's enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf's head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah's Cause.
Similarly, for all that you quote. Give us the full story, and not quote out of context....Tabari VII:147 Amr was sent by Muhammad to kill Abu Sufyan [the Quraysh leader and merchant]. The Prophet said, Go to Abu Sufyan and kill him.'
Ishaq:304
Tabari VII:62 I cut off Abu Jahls head and brought it to the Messenger. O Allahs Prophet, this is the head of the enemy of Allah. Muhammad said, Praise be to Allah.
Ishaq:535 The women began to cry after learning about Jafars death. Disturbed, Muhammad told Abd-Rahman to silence them. When they wouldnt stop wailing, Allahs Apostle said, Go and tell them to be quiet, and if they refuse throw dust in their mouths.
Tabari VII:97 "The next morning, the Jews were in a state of fear on account of our attack upon the enemy of Allah. After the assassination, the Prophet declared, Kill every Jew.'"
The Prophet commanded that the ruin should be dug up. Some treasure was extracted from it. Then Muhammad asked Kinanah for the rest. He refused to surrender it; so Allah's Messenger gave orders concerning him to Zubayr, saying, Torture him until you root out and extract what he has. So Zubayr kindled a fire on Kinanah's chest, twirling it with his firestick until Kinanah was near death. Then the Messenger gave him to Maslamah, who beheaded him.
Tabari IX:34 Khuwaysirah came and stood by the Prophet as he was giving gifts to the people and said, Muhammad, I have seen what you have done today. Well, what did you see? He said, I dont think you have been fair. Allahs Messenger became angry. Woe to you! If justice is not to be found with me, then with whom is it to be found? Umar said, Muhammad, allow me to kill him. Ishaq:595 The Apostle said, Get him away from me and cut off his tongue.
Ishaq:315 It was so criminal, men could hardly imagine it. Muhammad was ennobled because of the bloody fighting.
the quote above was taken from this website
What God's law is that?. Don't you know about the jews and christians lived peacefully under Islamic regime?..
What God's law is that?. Don't you know about the jews and christians lived peacefully under Islamic regime?..
That is not true... After being attacked and having all the land taken many of our greatest Churches and Cathedrals were destroyed or turned into Mosques, we werent allowed to build new Churches or pray publicly, Christians were not allowed to be in government, but frequently were, Christians were sold as slaves, force to marry, forced to convert, forced into muslim armies as slaves and forced to pay large taxes for "protection."
Spain flourished under Muslim rule... but the Spanish suffered, there are still stories in Andalusia about the betrayal of Julian and the horrible things that happened to us as a result...
Is this the history of Spain under Islamic rule? I wonder where you have got this view. I would take Spanish folklore with a grain of salt, after all you are a nation-state born through holy (re)conquest and inquisition.
I know things turned for the worse for Jews and Christians after the Murabitun came into power in the late 11th century, but under the Cordoban caliphate?
Originally Posted by eksesar
Tabari VII:97/Ishaq:368 "We carried Ka'b's head and brought it to Muhammad during the night. We saluted him as he stood praying and told him that we had slain Allah's enemy. When he came out to us we cast Ashraf's head before his feet. The Prophet praised Allah that the poet had been assassinated and complimented us on the good work we had done in Allah's Cause.
The Koran teaches a different Jesus and "Gospel" than our Bible does.but i thought that the Koran teaches different?
(Young) Galatians 1:6 I wonder that ye are so quickly removed from Him who did call you in the grace of Christ to another Gospel/Good News; 7 that is not another, except there be certain who are troubling you, and wishing to pervert the Gospel/Good News of the Christ;
Well, my point was just, were things always that bad under Islamic rule? Are you sure that the oppression suffered during the Murabitin (and Almohad) era didn't make you forget that things weren't as bad earlier, under the Cordoban caliphate?
After all, it was the reconquistador who shaped your nation and wrote your history, not the Christian under Moorish rule.
But then, I'm not overly knowledgeable about the history of Andalusia. I'm more into my own favourite, the Ottoman Empire
@Jayda:
Doña? Does that mean that you're Spanish nobility?
but i thought that the Koran teaches different?
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