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The Toronto Deception

By a former Toronto Vineyard Pastor





It has taken me nine years to actually come to the place where I would write this story. Part of the reason was because I was not fully convinced that it is appropriate to speak out against weaknesses in the body of Christ publicly. Another reason is because it has taken years of soul searching to become convinced that what happened in the Toronto Airport Church was actually all bad or at least more bad than good!

For the past number of years I have called it a mixed blessing. I think James A. Beverly called it this in his book Holy Laughter and the Toronto Blessing 1994. Today I would call it a mixed curse concluding that any individual good that came from this experience is far outweighed by much harm and satanic deception. I suppose that therein has been my dilemma. I have tried to live my life in the fear of the Lord and Jesus told us that the unforgivable sin was the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Attributing to Satan what was in fact a work of God. If pressed as to whether or not the Toronto blessing is all God or all Devil I will still be hedgy, but I am convinced that Satan has used this experience to blind people to the historical doctrines of God, to produce fruit in keeping with repentance, to failing to test and discern the spirits and failing to test prophecy.

After three years of being in the thick of the Toronto blessing our Vineyard assembly in Scarborough ( East Toronto) just about self destructed. We devoured one another, with gossip, backstabbing, division, sects criticism etc. After three years of ‘soaking,’ praying for people, shaking, rolling, laughing, roaring, ministering at TACF on their prayer team, leading worship at TACF, preaching at TACF, basically living at TACF we were the most carnal, immature and deceived Christians that I know. I remember saying to my friend and senior pastor at Scarborough Vineyard Church in 1997 that ever since the Toronto Blessing came we have just about fallen to bits! He agreed!

My experience has been that the manifestation of spiritual gifts mentioned in 1st Corinthians 12 was much more common in our assembly, before January 1994 (when the Toronto blessing started.) than during this period of supposed Holy Spirit visitation.

During 1992-1993 when praying for people we would experience what I believe was genuine prophesy, deliverance and much grace and favour from the Lord. After the Toronto Blessing started, all ministry time changed, the only prayers were ‘More Lord MORE ’, the shouting of ‘Fire’ the jerky shaking of the body with the ‘ooh ooh OOH WOOOAAH’ prayer. (I kid you not!)

On January 20th 1994 about 15 people from our church traveled over to Toronto Airport Vineyard in order to listen to Randy Clark, a Vineyard pastor from the USA. John Arnott had called our senior pastor to invite us. He communicated that Randy had been to the Rodney Howard Browne meetings and that the stuff had broke out in his church in the following weeks. John was hoping that something might break out with us too. We were only too happy to travel over. We were a church plant out of the Toronto Airport and we started in 1992. In those days there were three Vineyard Churches in Toronto. One Down Town church, Scarborough vineyard church to the east and the Airport Church. We were one big happy family. Because we were small in number we did special meetings, conferences etc, together.

The year before most of our leadership teams joined and had headed to Nicaragua for a short term missions trip. We had genuine love and fellowship with each other. Since leaving the Vineyard churches I have read a fair bit of analysis from the critics. Some make out that the Toronto Blessing was one huge conspiracy to lead the body of Christ into heresy. Heresy and apostasy I suspect may well be the result, but none of these destinations were intentional. I am honestly convinced that the leaders in the Vineyard churches are genuine born-again Christians who love the Lord, but have fallen into deception. They have not loved the Lord enough to keep His commandments. They have failed to obey the scriptures and have been led astray by our longing for something bigger and brighter and more exciting and dynamic. I am guilty of this sin also. I have preached renewal in Korea, the United Kingdom, the USA and here in Canada. I am genuinely repentant and in writing this story I would ask you the bride and body of Christ to forgive me. Especially the Pentecostal / Charismatic Christians among you, for you are my immediate family theologically. I am an evangelical Christian, I always have been but I do not believe in the cessation of the spiritual gifts at the end of the apostolic era. I believe that it was my evangelical roots (my family are Baptists and I was born again in the Presbyterian Church.) that started to open my eyes to problems with this so called renewal. In hind sight I look back and think how could I have been so blind? I laughed at people acting like dogs and pretending to urinate on the columns of the TACF building. I watched people pretend to be animals, bark, roar, cluck, pretend to fly as if they had wings, perpetually act drunk and sing silly songs. How I thought that any of this was from the Holy Spirit of God amazes me today. It was loud irreverent and blasphemous to the Holy God of the Bible. I suppose in my mind I reasoned that as long as they did not teach any thing in direct violation to scripture then it was what we called the exotic. This is a buzz word for manifestations that could not be justified from a biblical perspective. I was taught from the pulpit that we had two options. The order of the nursery full of life and messy or the order of the graveyard, very orderly but dead! As a young immature pastor I wanted life with mess. I failed to remember that God wants us to become mature and grow up in him. I became disconcerted by the prophetic words that came forth especially one by Carol Arnott in which she had her bride experience where she was taken into the very presence of Jesus and said that the love that she experienced was even better than sex! I was shocked in my spirit and thought how can one compare the love of God with sex? When we suspected that demons were running riot in our services John Arnott would teach that we should ask are they coming or going. If they are leaving then that is ok! John would defend the chaos by saying that we ought not be afraid of being deceived, if we have asked the Holy Spirit to come and fill us then how could Satan come and deceive us? This would make Satan very strong and God very weak! He said that we needed to have more faith in a Big God to protect us than in a Big Devil to deceive us. This sounded very convincing but was totally contrary to scripture for Jesus and Paul and Peter and John all warn us about the power of deceiving spirits and especially so in the last days. Again we did not love God enough to obey His Word and the result was that we opened ourselves up to lying spirits. May God have mercy upon us!

Finally the penny dropped for me as I was rolling around one night ‘drunk in the Spirit’ as we would say. I started singing and as I rolled around the floor the Nursery Rhyme ‘Mary had a little lamb its fleece was white as snow.’ came to mind. I sang this in a mocking spirit and instantly my heart told me this was a demon. Instantly I repented and was in total shock. How could a demon get into me? Did I not love God? Was I not zealous for the things of God? Was I not nuts about Jesus? I knew that an unclean spirit had just manifested through me and I was guilty of great sin. After this experience I stayed away from TACF. I did not go back there any more. I did not possess the conviction to denounce the whole experience but thought that we where failing to pastor the Blessing well enough.

Even after I stopped going over to TACF, I had to pastor the fruit of it. One example was when some of our people returned from a meeting there asking us if we had all received the golden sword of the Lord? I asked them what they were talking about thinking that it was some prophetic reference to the Holy Scriptures but they said, ‘no, its not the Bible, it’s an invisible golden sword that only the really pure can receive. If taken in an unrighteous fashion then the Lord would kill you. But if you are holy enough to receive it then you can wield this sword and it will heal aids, Cancer etc. and bring salvation. How one wielded this sword was by pretending to have this invisible sword in your hand and motioning to strike people with it when in prayer! I thought while even in deception at this time that the TACF had become Looney bins! This was purportedly first received by Carol Arnott and then given to the ones holy enough to receive it! Another thing was the golden fillings in the teeth. We had people in our assembly peeping down one another’s throats looking for the gold fillings that God had placed there to show how much he loved them! In all my time there I only heard one message on repentance given by a visiting speaker from Hong Kong named Jackie Pullinger. It went over like a lead balloon. We were not there to repent, we were there to party in the Lord! After one year into the blessing I spoke out at a pastors meeting and said ‘guys we have shaken, rattled, rolled, laughed cried and bought the tee-shirt. But we have no revival, no salvation, no fruit and no increased evangelism so what’s the deal?’ I was soundly rebuked - who was I to expect to see fruit when the Lord was healing his broken people? We had been legalistic long enough and God was spending this time restoring his wounded and freeing us from legalism I was told not to push the Lord and the harvest would come in his time.’

I knew this was wrong because the Lord had commanded us to go into all the earth and make disciples! Not, that everyone should take a sabbatical for who knows how long, while God does some strange new thing! Ultimately I left over something as controversial as the ordination of women. Personally I believe from scripture that women should not be pastors/ elders in a local assembly. I could be wrong on this and there is much debate in the Church today but that is my conviction and in the Vineyard churches they were ordaining all the pastors wives to co pastor with them. I am certainly for women in ministry but believe that the Elder/ pastor role in a local assembly has been reserved for men. I did not write scripture but God willing I will have the grace from now on to obey it.

So there is my story. I could go on and document much excess, folly, sin and latter day reign teaching that manifest from the prophetic end of this Blessing but others have already done that. We sang about Joel’s army and the billion soul revival as if it were one of the Ten Commandments, and as always it was just around the corner. Next month, next year etc. Jesus said that when the son of man returns will he find faith upon the earth? And if he does not return when he does no flesh would be saved but for the sake of the elect he comes. This is a far cry from the dominionism that is being taught all through the vineyard / prophetic/ spiritual warfare movement. I honestly think that they think they are going to take over the whole world! While in the Vineyard I embraced a life verse from the Apostle Paul the phrase do not go beyond what is written!

To finish I just want to say sorry for the damage, that I have personally done by teaching things that are not correct biblically. I repent before men as I already have before God. I will not excuse my falling into deception. I did not bother to test things when the scriptures commanded us to do so. Everyone who was there when this thing started knows that what I write is true, they would just come to different conclusions especially if they are still promoting the ‘river!’

To those in the river I would say swim out, there are things living in the water that will bite you real good! I love the people of TACF and the Vineyard movement but I think that we have much to answer for and may the Lord open your eyes sooner rather than later. I suspect that when this letter goes online I will get bombarded by emails from both camps, some damning me for still believing in the ministry of the Holy Spirit and still walking in deception and some old friends damning me for exposing dirt or being negative about the Lords anointed! Well, the Lord knows my heart and by his grace he will guide me into all truth as I seek to know Christ and him crucified! If you believe that I walk in sin and error please pray for me that the Lord would forgive me and open my eyes. I will study the word to show my self a work man approved! I would call on all who read this to pray that the Lord would open the eyes of all who have been involved in this deception. Whether leader or follower, we are loved and the Lord is a forgiving God. He says if we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. I believe we are like the church in Laodicea, we think that we are rich, have prospered and need nothing, we do not realise that we are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind and naked. We must take the Counsel of Jesus and buy gold refined in the fire (which is his suffering, not a false spirit!), white garments to clothe our shameful nakedness and salve for our eyes that we might see again. Jesus is calling us to repentance and thank the Lord that he is, for it will lead us to true restoration with our Father! If God has forgiven me and opened my eyes then he can do it for all those caught in deception too. I will finish with a warning from Paul, he says if you think you are standing firm be careful lest you fall.

Sincerely Paul Gowdy.


http://www.discernment-ministries.org/TheTorontoDeception.htm

Note: I am not Paul Gowdy
 

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Well I don't know where to begin on this.

I was at the Toronto Blessing for 3 or 4 days. I have heard that all this went on, but I saw none of it. I was in meetings that were such a Blessing - God gave me poems at those meetings that have ministered mightly to hundreds. The poems brought 6 miracles at the Toronto Blessing even before I left.

The meetings I was in were orderly, Spirit filled and a wonderful Blessing. I saw many miracles.

I am not saying that none of this happened - but I am just saying I did not witness it.

After 3 days I felt the release to head home - so all of this could have happened after I left - I do not doubt that it happened, but I am just shocked to read all this after the wonderful Blessings I received while there.

I am saddened to hear of all this because I really felt the Blessings of the Lord while there and every meeting was a Spiritual Blessing.

How could I feel it was such a Blessing and you are saying it was of satan? Now I am confused - if it was of satan why did I not feel any of it - I can walk in a room and feel if there is evil there. How could I have possibly been so deceived? If I felt that was such a blessing - am I being decived today???
 
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There is nothing new under the sun. Except for references to TACF, it sounds like Latter Rain Movement (LRM) rejuvenated to me, Paul. The AOG had to deal with similar stuff back in the 50s until they renounced LRM (which coincidentally, also had its beginnings in Canada in North Battleford, Saskatchewan in 1946-48). When I came into that denomination a few years later, the residual damage was still apparent and it has adversely affected Charimatics to this day, most noticeably in the account you have given.

According to one source, some of the erroneous teachings hatched during the LRM that are still taught in P/C churches include:
  • the “Latter Rain” theory,
  • restoration of the "fivefold ministries,
  • the “Manifested Sons of God” doctrine (today Joel’s Army, the Elijah Company, the Manchild Company, the Sonship, the Melchisedek Priesthood, the Shulamites, the Many-Membered Christ, the New Order, Overcomers, God's Army, the Corporate Body, Feast of Tabernacles, Tabernacle of David),
  • “Kingdom Now” eschatology (lately influenced by Reconstructionism),
  • shepherding discipleship methods, Positive Confession (the "creative spoken word”),
  • impartation of spiritual gifts,
  • utilization of itinerate teams to recruit churches,
  • squelching Bible exegesis in the interests of “unity” (i.e.conformity),
  • seed-faith teaching, and
  • manipulative directive prophecy to control individuals and churches.
Some of the personalities involvedin LRM at its earliest stages, either directly or indirectly, were William Branham, A.A. Allen, Paul Cain, Oral Roberts, and Frank Hall. Coming along later were Robert Tilton, Larry Lea and W.V. Grant (Sr. & Jr.)

If you are interested, more information about LRM can be found at Wikipedia where you can find additional links, pro and con: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latter_Rain_Movement.

~Jim

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pictures where his money used to be.
 
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I became disconcerted by the prophetic words that came forth especially one by Carol Arnott in which she had her bride experience where she was taken into the very presence of Jesus and said that the love that she experienced was even better than sex! I was shocked in my spirit and thought how can one compare the love of God with sex?
Oh no! Not sex!!!!! Sex is dirty, evil, and disgusting!!!
 
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Well I don't know where to begin on this.

I was at the Toronto Blessing for 3 or 4 days. I have heard that all this went on, but I saw none of it. I was in meetings that were such a Blessing - God gave me poems at those meetings that have ministered mightly to hundreds. The poems brought 6 miracles at the Toronto Blessing even before I left.

The meetings I was in were orderly, Spirit filled and a wonderful Blessing. I saw many miracles.

I am not saying that none of this happened - but I am just saying I did not witness it.

After 3 days I felt the release to head home - so all of this could have happened after I left - I do not doubt that it happened, but I am just shocked to read all this after the wonderful Blessings I received while there.

I am saddened to hear of all this because I really felt the Blessings of the Lord while there and every meeting was a Spiritual Blessing.

How could I feel it was such a Blessing and you are saying it was of satan? Now I am confused - if it was of satan why did I not feel any of it - I can walk in a room and feel if there is evil there. How could I have possibly been so deceived? If I felt that was such a blessing - am I being decived today???

Even Latter Rain-ers, calmed down the fanaticism (at least some of it) after a backlash of balance began waking people up to the deception. IMO, something like that may be happing with the Toronto Mixed-Blessing. Still, the residual damage and disillusionment in some may never be corrected.

~Jim

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I vow to never live my life in fear of deception again. I will NOT give the devil that much honor.
Good point TOL - I am not deceived - I should not have even said that - I know the real thing and am led by the Holy Spirit.

I was not in any of the meetings where any of this happened and the Blessings were real at that meeting - I don't know what happened after we left, but my friend and I received from that meeting and learned a lot - we had a lot of individual small meetings there and was only in about 3 of the entire congregation meetings. I feel I was protected from being around all the other stuff going on - I had only been in the Spirit Filled walk a short when we went to Toronto and I'm glad I did not see any of it.
 
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I've seen the laughter in a few different lights. Once, it was in the healing of an older lady who had suffered for a long time. Other times, it was disruptive and totally out of place.

When the healing was taking place, the laughter sounded joyous and natural and much like the person's normal laughing. The disruptive laugher sounded cackling and odd.

Could it be the enemy moved right in to discredit something of God?
 
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I had a friend who used to say: “The dangerous thing about deception is; when you’re deceived you don’t know it.”

If you think that you can’t be deceived you already are deceived!

Here are some ways to evaluate the things going on around us in the church.

  • What does the Word say about it? If a practice appears to violate what is taught in the Word it should be immediately “suspect”. Either it is wrong or my understanding of the Word is wrong. I need to resolve this before I go any further.

  • What is the fruit of it? Personally I can’t tell an orange tree from a lemon tree, but, when I see the fruit of either I know exactly what they are.


  • The gift of discernment. This gift was given to the church for good reason. There are times when something may appear to be good and godly, but, the spirit behind it is neither! Other times something may appear foolish or absurd. Yet, God has often done “foolish and absurd” things (at least they appear so to us) The gift tells us when we have no other way of knowing.

I never went to Toronto. I’m not sure what happened there. All I have to go by is what others have said. People tend to be either a passionate protagonist or antagonist. I suspect that there were both good and bad things going on. This is how things go when people are part of the equation.

Christians can be the most gullible people in the world. Some equate honest skepticism with unbelief. These people will believe anything. Others refuse to consider the possibility of anything supernatural. Personally I try to live somewhere between the two camps

John O.
 
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Our pastor had visited the church and I had never heard of this blessing, until he came about 2 years ago, so decided to look it up on the Interenet and found more negatives than postives, not that that really means much, Anyways I questioned my Pastor about some of this stuff, And he told me whilst out there they had spoken with one of the pastors and they were trying to keep things biblical and of God.
 
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I have to question the integrity of the OP.
I was involved with Vineyard for sometime, and remember John Wimbers assessment before he died.
The Arnetts wouldn't submit to Wimbers wishes in
regards to his leadership of the VCF churches (Vineyard)and they had split from vineyard, saying they wanted to go in a different direction....why does the OP claim to be a part of that church for all those years , yet still call it a vineyard church when it hasn't been for a LONG time ???:confused: .This happened before John Wimber died.....plus I thought Brownsville outpouring was because there pastor went to the Toronto Vineyard and brought it back ???
...........In Christ Shawners
 
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Oh no! Not sex!!!!! Sex is dirty, evil, and disgusting!!!




SOS 7:

6 How beautiful you are and how pleasing,
my love, with your delights!
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit. :blush: 8 I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit." :eek:
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, :scratch:
the fragrance of your breath like apples, 9 and your mouth like the best wine. :o
 
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SOS 7:

6 How beautiful you are and how pleasing,
my love, with your delights!
7 Your stature is like that of the palm,
and your breasts like clusters of fruit. :blush: 8 I said, "I will climb the palm tree;
I will take hold of its fruit." :eek:
May your breasts be like clusters of grapes on the vine, :scratch:
the fragrance of your breath like apples, 9 and your mouth like the best wine. :o
My point exactly. Sex is a shadow of the connection God has with His people. It should be more intimate than sex.
 
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....plus I thought Brownsville outpouring was because there pastor went to the Toronto Vineyard and brought it back ???

This is correct. And in 1994, Eleanor Mumford, assistant pastor of the South-West London Vineyard and wife of John Mumford, also went there and brought the fire back to the Holy Trinity Brompton, London where it has been burning brightly ever since. And from that presence was born the Alpha course. Nicky Gumbal is now the vicar there.
 
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Alpha came from the Brownsville Outpouring? That's interesting. I think New Frontiers had something to do with that too...

Well, not directly! It was one event in a long chain of events that started with Eleanor Mumford's witness. Another was the Sunderland Refreshing which happened because the pastor and his wife, Ken and Louis Gott visited all three of the aforementioned places and brought the fire back to Sunderland.
 
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I don't know much about the Toronto outpouring beyond what I have read on the internet, and heard on the radio and from other Christians (who weren't there). The opinions seem very mixed, I think more of the people talking were in favor, more of the radio stuff was negative. But, I do know, if God does something good and new, Satan will try to counterfeit it, pervert it, or discredit it. Possibly, as other posters have said before me, there was some real move of the Holy Spirit, some less genuine. All pure speculation on my part. Guess that isn't worth much.
 
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Could it be the enemy moved right in to discredit something of God?
Absolutely.

Whenever there is something of spirit happening, you will get some wackos - and since there was a LOT of spirit happening at TAV/TACF, there were a LOT of wackos......

I never went to Toronto. I have, however, heard John and Carol Arnott speak and seen them minister, and also Randy Clark, at the church he started in St.Louis. I was impressed with these people, particularly Carol, the way she poured herself out in ministry to one person after another. I also experienced a strong sense of God's glorious presence (those words sound sooo puny) as John was speaking. And the atmosphere in RC's church was very warm and friendly - I found him and his wife and others in the church to be very approachable and personable.

IMHO, we can't blame these leaders for the actions of their spiritual groupies (not talking about the members of the church but the people who just sort of hung out there and didn't take responsibility for their lives - kind of like winos).......

blessings
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