The tip of the ice berg

[Mr Laurier]

The ToE has fatal flaws, even Darwin saw that. Just one of countless examples: symbiosis. Evolutionists are are unwilling to accept the evidence.

Just a moment here.
How long has Darwin been dead?

 

[ruthiesea]

Sorry, 4.50 am.

Where in Darwin’s writings is this fatal flaw found? Where did he write that he was abandoning the theory of evolution because he had invalidated it?

 

[BPPLEE]

Is that how it was translated (one of the processes of interpretation) into English? It translated itself?

Yes, it is being studied, has been studied fo millenia. The question is, who are you to tell us what the truth of it is?

Do you think you know what the truth of it is? You seem pretty confident that your interpretation is the correct one.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Do you think you know what the truth of it is? You seem pretty confident that your interpretation is the correct one.

Pot, meet kettle.

You said

Either God gave us a book that we cannot understand and therefore left it up to us to decide what he had in mind (NOT), or God gave us a book that we can study and come to a knowledge of the truth (over time).

Who are you to say God didn't leave a book for you to decide what he had in mind? After all, that's exactly what everyone does.

 

[BPPLEE]

Pot, meet kettle.

You saidWho are you to say God didn't leave a book for you to decide what he had in mind? After all, that's exactly what everyone does.

I didn't say that. That's a quote from someone else

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I didn't say that. That's a quote from someone else

I apologise, it wasn't you.

 

[BPPLEE]

I apologise, it wasn't you.

No problem

 

[ottawak]

Do you think you know what the truth of it is? You seem pretty confident that your interpretation is the correct one.

I'm not. But I am confident that mine is just as consistent with and supportive of essential Christian doctrine as yours. I'm not promoting mine as the only possible true and correct one.

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm not. But I am confident that mine is just as consistent with and supportive of essential Christian doctrine as yours. I'm not promoting mine as the only possible true and correct one.

The issue of salvation is the most important one. A lot of the other disagreements are just people arguing about things that don't matter that much.

 

[ottawak]

The issue of salvation is the most important one. A lot of the other disagreements are just people arguing about things that don't matter that much.

There's a forum for that: this one.

 

[Astrophile]

The majority of Germans thought that Hitler was leading them to the promised land. The majority of Russians believe that Putin was justified in invading Ukraine. The majority of North Koreans believe that Kim is the greatest leader ever and some kind of demi-god. The majority is often wrong.

400 years ago the majority of Europeans thought that the Earth was at the centre of the universe and everything else revolved around it, and the majority of Australians thought that the Earth was flat. Now the majority of Europeans think that the Sun is at the centre of the solar system (but not of the universe), and the majority of Australians think that the Earth is approximately spherical. Which majority is wrong? You can prove anything with this sort of argument.

And evolution is taught in schools as if it was fact, at least in the education systems that I know of. Teachers in the US have been fired even for pointing out possible objections to evolution. If the theory is so sound, why the fear of examining possible flaws?

The 'objections to evolution' have been examined, and refuted, over and over again, but they still turn up in creationist books and websites like the proverbial bad penny.

 

[Astrid]

The majority of Germans thought that Hitler was leading them to the promised land. The majority of Russians believe that Putin was justified in invading Ukraine. The majority of North Koreans believe that Kim is the greatest leader ever and some kind of demi-god. The majority is often wrong. And evolution is taught in schools as if it was fact, at least in the education systems that I know of. Teachers in the US have been fired even for pointing out possible objections to evolution. If the theory is so sound, why the fear of examining possible flaws?

If ToE is so,wrong why do you have to mahe up things to
criticise and even bring in Hitler?
Thats thrashing about like a foul- hooked croc trying to
find something, anything to bite.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Extinct -- unless we think of a way of preventing ourselves from becoming feral.

Alas, it would be better if we became feral. Less chance of senseless violence.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Then we could have evolved or God could've created us or we could've evolved with God directing the process or there could've been progressive creationism

When I was a christian, the accepted position was that Jehova/Yawah had been directing evolution for millions of years, just to get to modern humans

 

[AV1611VET]

When I was a christian, the accepted position was that Jehova/Yawah had been directing evolution for millions of years, just to get to modern humans

How'd that end up?

 

[Mr Laurier]

How'd that end up?

What do you mean?
Your question seems to imply some dire consequence.

 

[BPPLEE]

When I was a christian, the accepted position was that Jehova/Yawah had been directing evolution for millions of years, just to get to modern humans

Yeah that's not what I believe.

 

[AV1611VET]

When I was a christian, the accepted position was that Jehova/Yawah had been directing evolution for millions of years, just to get to modern humans

How'd that end up?

What do you mean?
Your question seems to imply some dire consequence.

Indeed it is a dire consequence.

Look at your faith setting: it says ATHEIST.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Yeah that's not what I believe.

Thats nice.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Indeed it is a dire consequence.

Look at your faith setting: it says ATHEIST.

So no dire consequence. Just an unrelated factoid.

I used to wear blue jeans.
And the dire consequence of this is that I now eat a lot of curry.
Thats the logic you are following.
Connecting the utterly unconnected, to try to create a story from nothing.

The fact that I accepted observable reality when I was a christian, did not cause me to become an atheist.