The timely truth about the Book of Genesis

[boughtwithaprice]

Actually, the data suggests a more nuanced picture. According to a 2009 Pew Research Center poll, about 51% of members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) believe in some form of deity or higher power. Specifically, 33% believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power2.

So one third of scientists are saved just like all tongues, tribes, people and nations. Revelation 7:9

They are taught Biology. Just what problem do you have with the Biology book. This has been in court a lot and the conclusion is always the same. This is the best explanation that we have. You want to burn the Biology book and then what? You do not have a better book to teach them. If you did then you would be writting text books. My brother actually did write a text book that they used in medical school. It is a lot of research and a lot of hard work.

How many articles do you have published? It does not have to be the exact number just a ball park figure. What problem do you have with the peer review system that science uses. It may not be good enough but what do you have to offer that is better?

We are talking about grade level teaching. Even we teach the Bible in Sunday school. But they do not really learn the Bible until they are older and enter into the sanctuary. We just teach the literal Bible to students.

Indeed, Galileo Galilei provided strong evidence supporting the heliocentric model, which proposed that the Earth and other planets revolve around the Sun. His observations, such as the phases of Venus and the moons of Jupiter, challenged the prevailing geocentric view and eventually led to a paradigm shift in our understanding of the cosmos.

I have been to the center of the universe, it is not where the universe began. There is nothing other than space at both locations today. This was actually a dream I had when I was around 8 years old. As far as I know Science lines up with the dream and it was accurate.

I have a situation similar with my son right now. I also had a dream about this. If you abort a baby that baby goes to Heaven. IF the parent wants to go to Heaven they have to be reconciled with that baby. They are going to need to establish a relationship with their child. Even I hear pastors say you have to get along with everyone in Heaven if you want to go there. Maybe this is why we are to love our enemy. What if they make it into Heaven like the situation with Corrie Tan Boon and the worse guard at the concentration camp that she was in and her sister died at.

One in 500 have an extra x or y chromosome. What sort of an attitude should they have about that. For me they just have to trust their situation to God and He will help them to work it all out. Just like the rest of us. Of course the world says they need surgery or drugs because that puts money in people pocket if it helps or harms them.

We keep going around this same Mayberry bush. YOU have to come up with something better. Science is all about the best we nave to offer and no one thinks it is infallible. We all admit the limitations we have and the limitations that science has. I personally am grateful for what little bit of understanding they provide for us about God's Creation.

My father was a medical doctor and if he had not vaccinated people only have the people would be alive today. At least that is the figure my brother gives me from his experience as a missionary doctor in third world nations that do not have the vaccines we use in American.

Of course there are people that want to stuff money in their pocket my selling vaccines that do more harm than good. For me that is fine if they want to sell a placebo and get rich. But the real objective seems to be population control. So if you want to attack science then lets attack the people who use science to get rich no matter who they hurt. Like the whole situation with oxy cotton or fentanyl. Some where along the way we have to deal with witchcraft in the book of revelation and the harm that drugs can do to people.

If you want to attack science there is plenty to attack. But science itself is neutral. People decide if they want to use science for good or evil.

you do seem to misunderstand me as being anti-science. I am not. What I am telling you is that what we have in high schools and grade schools today is not science. It is narrative. Science makes an hypothesis, then looks for evidence to discredit or contradict that hypothesis. That
is the scientific method, and I agree with its pursuit of truth.

Narrative, like your dream, makes a foregone conclusion, then uses evidence to support it and disregards evidence that contradicts or does not support its conclusion. Narrative ignores unfavorable data as statistical anomalies. This is not pursuit of truth, rather indoctrination of a desired end. That end being to advance a political agenda, enrichment with government money, or increase in power through peer pressure. Is it possible that your dream was in error, or are you above reproach?

Why would you want to know my published articles? Don't think it is relevant, but I have a small number, I believe between 5 and 10. The subject was the pathogens in Otitis media and genetic research. What I did or do is not important, nor is who I am. The truth is the truth; it is no respecter of persons.


Want me to write a textbook? What? The fact that I cannot without time or resources diminishes the fact that the current texts are in error, and a new book needs to be written? I hope that you do not think that, because that is willful ignorance. Speaking of willful ignorance, the fact that court cases have not been successful is not evidence in itself that a proposition is untrue. We need to examine all the data. Even the Bible says that if a man judges a matter before he hears it, it is foolishness.

If you look up the Discovery Institute, which is an organization of secular scientists, not a Ken Ham knock off, you can examine all the data. That is for science as a discipline. From a religious and philosophical perspective, check out the Kolbe Institute and their series Foundations Restored, as well as How the World was made in Six Days. They will give you a perspective on what is happening. There will be a new textbook written; it will reveal the myth of Darwinism and other narratives purported to be science.

Fr Chad Ripperger has a good book on the metaphysics of evolution, if you are interested in philosophy, aka the love of knowledge, not ignorance. Fr Ripperger also has some lectures on the Darwinist worldview that can be found with a google search.

It is time to stand for truth for truth's sake, not just say, "oh well, doesn't affect my life, ain't gonna worry"

 

[Diamond72]

what we have in high schools and grade schools today is not science.

Oh sorry, I went to private school. I forgot what a scam public schools are when it comes to brain washing people. My Biology teacher was a graduate of Harvard and he really got me going with science. I have two or three good friends that teach history as professors. They are willing to admit a lot of history is revisionism.

So your issue is not with Science so much as the Government and the School system. Because science itself is neutral. You can use it for good or evil. Bible translations and interpretation can be a real issue also. That is why the Holy Spirit of God is to be our teacher.

The good thing is this age or era is coming to an end and the Kingdom age will begin. So Jesus will rule and reign for 1,000 years and we will have no more man made institutions of Government.

 

[Diamond72]

Narrative, like your dream, makes a foregone conclusion, then uses evidence to support it and disregards evidence that contradicts or does not support its conclusion.

Yes I do use science to verify the dream. Perhaps God showed me what He did so it could help me to get through the mine field when people want to use Science as a weapon of mass destruction. This is why we need science and the Bible. The Bible shows us what is NOT true Science and Science shows us what is not true Bible.

Is it possible that your dream was in error, or are you above reproach?

I do not tell anyone anything that has not been confirmed by astrophysics and science. The dream told me almost nothing compared to what science tells us.

the fact that court cases have not been successful is not evidence in itself that a proposition is untrue.

The fact remains they do not have enough evidence to support their claim in a court of law.

How the World was made in Six Days.

I go by Gerald Schroeder. He is the only one that can line up a day with the eras we study in Science. I did support Frances Collins until he gave us this plague and disqualified himself. They say he retired, I think they fired him. He just wants to write books to stuff money and payola in his pockets. They are very poorly researched. But he is busy and he may not have enough time. People like Ken I totally disregard. I sent an email to Dr Dino but he did not listen to people and they had to put him in jail for 10 years along with Jim Baker.

"oh well, doesn't affect my life, ain't g>onna worry"

I do not worry about what does effect my life. I pray it through until God gives me His peace.

I do not deny for one moment that Science, Education & Government want to muddy the water and lead people astray. But religion can do a pretty good job of that also. That is why man is not to be our teacher. We need the Holy Spirit of God to guide us and to lead us into the truth.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I do not deny for one moment that Science, Education & Government want to muddy the water and lead people astray. But religion can do a pretty good job of that also. That is why man is not to be our teacher. We need the Holy Spirit of God to guide us and to lead us into the truth.

Sounds like you believe in a PreTrib rapture and a millennial reign. That was never taught until the nineteenth century and is a gross misinterpretation of the Bible
The Bible says there is no secret coming. As lightning is from east to west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be. Jesus tells us how we are to live our lives. He said before His Ascension, it is not for you to know the times and seasons which the Father has fixed by His own authority.
We are to preach the gospel of repentance and forgiveness of sins as well as obedience to the commands given in Matthew 5-7. They are more strict than the Ten Commandments. You should read Demonstration of the Apostolic teaching from Iraneus in the second century, paragraph 96 is especially interesting

Your dream is not confirmed by science, rather the imaginations of men that wish to deny God. The Bible says that water was God’s first creation, then light, then the firmament, then the sun and stars.

We are told that there was a singularity and a big bang, but there is so little evidence for it that fixes had to be invented, like dark matter and dark energy. These are things that can never be studied or observed, yet we are told they are real

When we look at the available data, there is nothing that contradicts the Genesis account.

Water was the first creation so we should see it everywhere which we do, even the surface of the Sun. If the sun and stars were created after, then we should see evidence of light in the Universe not coming from the Sun and stars, and we do see that evidence. A computer program that subtracts all the light from the Sun and stars reveals that there still is a faint glow in the universe, evidence of the remains of the great light on the first day.

The firmament of the second day is not some permanent hard dome of the flat earthers, but makes perfect sense when viewed in high pressure physics. Two facts we know is that water is everywhere in the universe and hydrogen is the most abundant element. No contradiction from Genesis.

Since water was the first creation, we are told of the “face of the deep”, we can conclude that the first creation was a sphere of immense size.
Earth was formed by God in the center of that sphere, and God made the firmament. We don’t see it today because it dissipated after relief of the pressure, but we know that hydrogen is a metal at high pressure. This could easily acccount for the firmament God created on the second day that separated the waters above from the waters below

The Data is there for Genesis and is more consistent with what we can observe, rather than the narrative we have been fed by those that wish to deny God

As for the rapture, that denies God also. Jesus tells us that to follow Him we must deny ourselves and follow His footsteps. His was a way of suffering, so shall ours be. A servant is not grater than his master. They hated Jesus, they will hate us also. We will not be spared the suffering that is to come on the Earth. We count it all joy when we are found worthy to be united to Our Lord in suffering

When Peter said to Jesus that He should pray that He never has to suffer, Jesus said get behind me Satan. Denial of suffering is a deception of Satan. Self denial and acceptance of suffering out of love for Christ is the way of the Cross.

The Church will still be here when the Earth goes through the Great Tribulation. We will accept suffering willingly being faithful unto death to receive the crown of life, then all tears will be wiped from our eyes

 

[Diamond72]

Sounds like you believe in a PreTrib rapture and a millennial reign. That was never taught until the nineteenth century and is a gross misinterpretation of the Bible

I do not know how we will transition from the Church age to the Kingdom age. Lots and lots of people talk about a tribulation period but as you say there is very little support for that in the Bible. I should not be alive now, so I know I will not live long enough to go through any sort of tribulation. All people are raptured when they die because everyone leaves their body behind. At the resurrection our body is brought back to life.

There are two scriptures.
1 Thessalonians 4:17, which says:

"Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
The other one in acts says. Act1:11 "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

Zechariah 14:4 "On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south."

Your dream is not confirmed by science

The Universe is NOT expanding? How do you explain that? The dream was the universe is expanding but it will all come back together again. You are correct, science does not confirm the "big crunch" because there is no known mechanism for that at this time.

One theory is the universe is always expanding and shrinking in cycles but again science can not confirm that at all.

We are told that there was a singularity

God is a singularity. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one."

We know that everything is connected in the universe in real time. They call this entanglement. Even past present and future. They call this the block theory.

The Church will still be here when the Earth goes through the Great Tribulation.

Maybe you will be here. I will not be here. I think people are going to get exactly what they bargain for. According to your faith, so be it onto you. There is nothing people can do during the tribulation. The 144,000 will bring a witness and a testimony for God.

I thought you said you do not believe in a "great" tribulation.

Zechariah 13:9 "This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’”

God said He will bring one third through the fire. But some people think only 10% will survive. I think one third are saved but only 10% represent God. Many are called but few are chosen. They do not want to pay the price of Holiness and Sanctification to be used by God in this way.

 

[boughtwithaprice]

I do not know how we will transition from the Church age to the Kingdom age. Lots and lots of people talk about a tribulation period but as you say there is very little support for that in the Bible. I should not be alive now, so I know I will not live long enough to go through any sort of tribulation. All people are raptured when they die because everyone leaves their body behind. At the resurrection our body is brought back to life.

There are two scriptures.
1 Thessalonians 4:17, which says:

"Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord."
The other one in acts says. Act1:11 "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven."

Zechariah 14:4 "On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south."


The Universe is NOT expanding? How do you explain that? The dream was the universe is expanding but it will all come back together again. You are correct, science does not confirm the "big crunch" because there is no known mechanism for that at this time.

One theory is the universe is always expanding and shrinking in cycles but again science can not confirm that at all.


God is a singularity. Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one."

We know that everything is connected in the universe in real time. They call this entanglement. Even past present and future. They call this the block theory.

Maybe you will be here. I will not be here. I think people are going to get exactly what they bargain for. According to your faith, so be it onto you. There is nothing people can do during the tribulation. The 144,000 will bring a witness and a testimony for God.

I thought you said you do not believe in a "great" tribulation.

Zechariah 13:9 "This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘The LORD is our God.’”

God said He will bring one third through the fire. But some people think only 10% will survive. I think one third are saved but only 10% represent God. Many are called but few are chosen. They do not want to pay the price of Holiness and Sanctification to be used by God in this way.

I do not believe in a pretrib rapture, as I see it is unbiblical, however the Great Tribulation, which is the outpouring of the wrath of God will absolutely take place

The catching up of the elect to meet Christ I the air will be at His final return, not at some arbitrary event to begin a seven year countdown.
The fascination with the book of Daniel and the Tim Lehay “left behind” mentality was not taught in all Christianity until the 19th century. That is the same century that gave us the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists and others that disagree with the Apostolic Faith.

I am reminded of the scripture that says many will come in my name and say I am Christ, yet will deceive many. To stay on the straight and narrow, we need to recall Jesus’ words in the boom of Acts prior to His Ascension, “It is not for you to know the times and the seasons which the Father has fixed by His own authority” you will receive power and be my witnesses in Jerusalem and to the ends of the Earth. That means repent, believe the Gospel, deny yourself, talked up your cross, follow Jesus and stop worrying when the world is going to end. Take no care for tomorrow for tomorrow will take care of itself. Sufficient for today is the evil thereof. (form memory and not exact quote)