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Miracles can put an end to even the toughest debates!Well, given the miraculous context, its not really worthy of an answer ..
Check out this doosey:
2 Kings 20:11 And Isaiah the prophet cried unto the LORD: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz.
Not only did the earth suddenly stop, but it was suddenly put into reverse!
Miracles can put an end to even the toughest debates!
I ... I'm sorry!DARN it, man! I was hoping to necro this thread in 2026 and set the record! YOU BLEW IT!
Planet Earth rotates approx 10,000 mph. What do you think the effect momentum would have, if the entire planet came to a screeching halt from 10,000mph to 0? Especially when you consider 2/3 of the Earth surface is water?The rotation of the earth was stopped long enough for Joshua to win the battle.
The sun (and moon) standing still are references from the point of the observer.
It's basic physics.
It would be a mess, wouldn't it?Planet Earth rotates approx 10,000 mph. What do you think the effect momentum would have, if the entire planet came to a screeching halt from 10,000mph to 0? Especially when you consider 2/3 of the Earth surface is water?
Planet Earth rotates approx 10,000 mph. What do you think the effect momentum would have, if the entire planet came to a screeching halt from 10,000mph to 0? Especially when you consider 2/3 of the Earth surface is water?
God can do the impossible. That is, not only amazing things that are very unlikely, but also things physics does not allow to happen on their own.I was on another forum, and had this issue unresolved. Someone suggested that Joshua, and the miracle of the sun standing still was only possible in a merged world. I said it was merely a local intervention of the spiritual, of earth, and the moon. But is this impossible? I asked if perhaps the axis of the earth may have been changed, to make it so the day lasted longer. Anyone able to weigh in here?
Here is something I found on google.
"Donald Patten and his colleagues believe that the planet Mars passed by Earth in an unusually close orbit that caused the Earth to tilt on its axis (1973, pp. 172-198). Viewed from the right geographical location, the Sun actually would hang in the sky longer than normal." http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2189
Now, personally, I never considered mars as what did it, but what about the idea in general?
That is correct.God can do the impossible. That is, not only amazing things that are very unlikely, but also things physics does not allow to happen on their own.
He doesn't need to use physics, or at least not any physics that we understand and know of so far.
God can do the impossible. That is, not only amazing things that are very unlikely, but also things physics does not allow to happen on their own.
He doesn't need to use physics, or at least not any physics that we understand and know of so far.
Yes, endlessly (ok, not endlessly, but at least quite a few timesBut that is how He works, none-the-less.
Only in that one place? How come nobody else noticed these miracles? The sun stands still for a day or goes backwards and the only people to take note are Hebrew storytellers? What happened in Egypt? Or Babylon? We know they were keeping records because that's how so much "biblical history" is corroborated, but no mention of these extraordinary events.Check out this doosey:
2 Kings 20:11 And Isaiah the prophet cried unto the LORD: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz.
Not only did the earth suddenly stop, but it was suddenly put into reverse!
Planet Earth rotates approx 10,000 mph. What do you think the effect momentum would have, if the entire planet came to a screeching halt from 10,000mph to 0? Especially when you consider 2/3 of the Earth surface is water?
I don't have to guess -- in scripture it's very explicit that God wants those who will trust him before seeing proof, called "faith", and therefore all easy proof is removed, so as to allow faith to happen. Thus we can surmise that God is able to test then which people can trust Him in a truly full loving way. Like you'd need for an eternal relationship. It's quite logical actually.Only in that one place? How come nobody else noticed these miracles? The sun stands still for a day or goes backwards and the only people to take note are Hebrew storytellers? What happened in Egypt? Or Babylon? We know they were keeping records because that's how so much "biblical history" is corroborated, but no mention of these extraordinary events.
Let me guess - selective memory is all part of the miracle.....
God makes the sun stand still. The story is written down about 900 years later by (surprise!) a highly biased author. No other culture anywhere in the world has any record of the event. That's ignoring the fact that the long day was provided so that Joshua and his army could murder more people. For a God who claims he wants us all to love him, he relies an awful lot on wonton violence and deceit. Please explain how that is logical.I don't have to guess -- in scripture it's very explicit that God wants those who will trust him before seeing proof, called "faith", and therefore all easy proof is removed, so as to allow faith to happen. Thus we can surmise that God is able to test then which people can trust Him in a truly full loving way. Like you'd need for an eternal relationship. It's quite logical actually.
It sounds like the elitist appeal of a classic 'Emperor's New Clothes' con...God makes the sun stand still. The story is written down about 900 years later by (surprise!) a highly biased author. No other culture anywhere in the world has any record of the event. That's ignoring the fact that the long day was provided so that Joshua and his army could murder more people. For a God who claims he wants us all to love him, he relies an awful lot on wonton violence and deceit. Please explain how that is logical.
I would like to know more about this wonton violence. How are the wontons (a Chinese cuisine dumpling, often served in soup) actually used? Are they thrown? Forced down people's throats? Used to damage property? Members of Christian Forums have a right to know!he relies an awful lot on wonton violence and deceit.
Singapore spellchecker. Take with a dip of soy sauce or chili sauce. Yum.I would like to know more about this wonton violence. How are the wontons (a Chinese cuisine dumpling, often served in soup) actually used? Are they thrown? Forced down people's throats? Used to damage property? Members of Christian Forums have a right to know!
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