The stumbling block for atheists.

[TLK Valentine]

OK! I guess we disagree.

You don't say!

 

[Radrook]

You don't say!

Yes I say.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Yes I say.

And the supernatural -- how does that work again?

 

[Michael]

And the supernatural -- how does that work again?

He uses his supernatural powers like inflation, dark energy and dark matter.

 

[Radrook]

When push comes to shove then inconsistency of policy automatically is deployed on cue. One rule for one area and another for anything which might lead to an unwanted conclusion. That is NOT science.

 

[TLK Valentine]

He uses his supernatural powers like inflation, dark energy and dark matter.

Sounds like things not simple to understand = "the supernatural."

 

[Speedwell]

When push comes to shove then inconsistency of policy automatically is deployed on cue. One rule for one area and another for anything which might lead to an unwanted conclusion. That is NOT science.

And it has nothing whatever to do with how the rest of us evaluate functional organization in nature.

If you sense some hostility to your ideas here that false claim of yours, frequently repeated, is probably the most important reason.

 

[Abraxos]

I think I can understand why atheists are atheists.

In my experience, it really comes down to that they just don't want to believe in God. (Psalm 14:1)

So what they do is try and destroy the concept of God, and in many cases they have to continually do this to appease their mind that they're on the right track. That is why they constantly talk about God, particularly Christianity, because they're always obsessing about it knowing it is probably true.

It's that endless discrediting of God in their mind which keeps telling them that actually there is a God, but they have to regularly come up with excuses to remain in that state of denial. That's why there are so many atheists on a forum dedicated to Christianity.

 

[bhsmte]

In my experience, it really comes down to that they just don't want to believe in God. (Psalm 14:1)

So what they do is try and destroy the concept of God, and in many cases they have to continually do this to appease their mind that they're on the right track. That is why they constantly talk about God, particularly Christianity, because they're always obsessing about it knowing it is probably true.

It's that endless discrediting of God in their mind which keeps telling them that actually there is a God, but they have to regularly come up with excuses to remain in that state of denial. That's why there are so many atheists on a forum dedicated to Christianity.

How do you know what other people want or don't want? Are you a mind reader?

Ever ponder they may not believe because they see no logical or rational reason to believe and they cant play the mind games with themselves to convince themselves?

 

[Freodin]

In my experience, it really comes down to that they just don't want to believe in God. (Psalm 14:1)

So what they do is try and destroy the concept of God, and in many cases they have to continually do this to appease their mind that they're on the right track. That is why they constantly talk about God, particularly Christianity, because they're always obsessing about it knowing it is probably true.

It's that endless discrediting of God in their mind which keeps telling them that actually there is a God, but they have to regularly come up with excuses to remain in that state of denial. That's why there are so many atheists on a forum dedicated to Christianity.

Had you started this post with "In my opinion...", I would have let it rest. But as it stands now, I have to second bhsmte: how would you know what other people want from your experience?

 

[quatona]

Since I personally do not believe that mind arises naturally without an intelligent designer

So how did the mind of your intelligent designer arise?

 

[Radrook]

So how did the mind of your intelligent designer arise?

Irrelevant to detection of design in nature.

 

[bhsmte]

Irrelevant to detection of design in nature.

You have no opinion about the source of this ID you claim?

 

[Abraxos]

You have no opinion about the source of this ID you claim?

If we use reason, there is a philosophical principle asserted by Aristotle that there cannot be an infinite regress. Coined, "the unmoved mover", it essentially means for there to be a beginning there must be a beginner to the beginning.

Based on the BBT, Stephen Hawking said, "Almost everyone believes that everything before time itself had a beginning at the Big Bang, and anything that began to exist had a cause."
The universe began to exist, therefore it had a cause. Whatever that cause is what I am pointing out here - is that cause is God.

David Hume: "I will never assert such an absurd thing that would ever arise without a cause."

 

[Radrook]

If we use reason, there is a philosophical principle asserted by Aristotle that there cannot be an infinite regress. Coined, "the unmoved mover", it essentially means for there to be a beginning there must be a beginner to the beginning.

Based on the BBT, Stephen Hawking said, "Almost everyone believes that everything before time itself had a beginning at the Big Bang, and anything that began to exist had a cause."
The universe began to exist, therefore it had a cause. Whatever that cause is what I am pointing out here - is that cause is God.

David Hume: "I will never assert such an absurd thing that would ever arise without a cause."

Causation per se isn't what they are opposed to.

 

[Abraxos]

Causation per se isn't what they are opposed to.

Arise/cause/source. Seems like we are back to playing the circular semantic games.

 

[Radrook]

Arise/cause/source. Seems like we are back to playing the circular semantic games.

Why would I be playing semantic games with someone I am in agreement with?

 

[Speedwell]

Causation per se isn't what they are opposed to.

Are you interested in detailing what it is we are opposed to?

 

[Abraxos]

Are you interested in detailing what it is we are opposed to?

Depends who you are.

Irreducible complexity isn't your forte?

 

[Abraxos]

Why would I be playing semantic games with someone I am in agreement with?

I wasn't referring to you as more I was referring to the most likely response. Semantic games or the usual "ask a question" games.