The Strong's Deception

[Yahudim]

There are a lot more than 20 ב left. The ג begin at 1341. Then we'll have a ge' (gay') old time.

I should have said 20 Hebrew letters. The rest is all Greek to me.

 

[HARK!]

בל

H1077, H1078, H1079

בלה

H1086, H1087, H1088, H1089

בלהה

H1090, H1091

Here's another one! I wonder how many of these instances I have already overlooked in this study.

So far I have seen only one Strong's number for:

בלו

H1093

However we can find בלו in Deu, 29:5, Josh 9:13, Neh 9:21 and Psa 32:3, rendered as H1086.

בלטשאצר

H1096, H1096

בלע

H1104, H1105, H1106

 

[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a small clean up. Please remember this site rule:
​

Congregational Forum Restrictions​

Members who do not truly share the core beliefs and teachings of a specific congregational forum may post in fellowship or ask questions, but they may not teach or debate within the forum.​

 

[HARK!]

בלק

H1110, H1111

בלאשצר

H1112, H1113


במה

H1116, H1117

בן

H1121, H1122, H1123

 

[HARK!]

בני

H1137, H1138

בניה

H1140, H1141

בנין

H1146, H1147

בסר

H1154, H1155

 

[HARK!]

בעל

H1166, H1167, H1168, H1169

 

[visionary]

So good to see you Vis. You may remember me as talmidim...

I miss you and our conversing on the various topics. We stetched each other's faith and understanding beautifully with grace and joy.

 

[HARK!]

בער

H1197, H1198

בצע

H1214, H1215

בצק

H1216, H1217

בצר

H1219, H1220, H1221, H1222

בצרה

H1223, H1224

בקע

H1234, H1235

בקר

H1239, H1240, H1241, H1242

 

[HARK!]

בר

H1247, H1248, H1249, H1250, H1251, H1252, H1253

Wow!

 

[HARK!]

ברד

H1258, H1259, H1260, H1261

ברות

H1266, H1267


ברי

H1274, H1275, H1276

 

[HARK!]

בריח

H1280. H1281, H1282

ברית

H1285, H1286, H1287

ברך

H1288, H1289, H1290, H1291

ברכה

H1293, H1294, H1295

ברק

H1299, H1300, H1301

 

[HARK!]

בשל

H1310, H1311

בשם

H1313, H1314

בשר

H1319, H1320, H1321

 

[Laureate]

Use​

Strong's Concordance provides an index to the Bible. This allows the reader to find words where they appear in the Bible. It also lets the reader directly compare how the same word may be used elsewhere in the Bible.

Strong's numbers​

Each original-language word (Hebrew or Greek) is given an entry number in the dictionary of those original language words listed in the back of the concordance. These have become known as the "Strong's numbers". The main concordance lists each word that appears in the KJV Bible in alphabetical order with each verse in which it appears listed in order of its appearance in the Bible, with a snippet of the surrounding text (including the word in italics). Appearing to the right of the scripture reference is the Strong's number. This allows the user of the concordance to look up the meaning of the original language word in the associated dictionary in the back, thereby showing how the original language word was translated into the English word in the KJV Bible.

Strong's Concordance - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Oh really?

For years now, I have been using Strong's numbers to find the most accurate definition of the Hebrew word. The way that I do this is to look at the otiot of the word I'm researching. Then look at all of the various English translations of that word. I choose one definition that most closely conforms to the symbology of the otiot. Then I get the Strong's number for that word. Then I plug the definition that I'm testing into every verse that contains that Strong's number. If that definition doesn't work with every verse that I have tested it against; then I continue to try to understand what that word must mean.

Recently I did a similar study. I have forgotten which word I was researching; but initially I was satisfied with my understanding of the meaning of the word. Maybe a dozen or so verses were connected to that Strong's number. This did seem a bit odd for this word that is commonly found in the Bible. It didn't take long before I stumbled onto the reality that this word is used widely throughout scripture. It didn't take me long before I realized that there were at least three Strong's numbers for this same word. Within days I stumbled onto another word that had multiple numbers assigned to it.

I recently brought this up at a Bible study; and one of the well studied members within our group was as astonished as I was. He asked me what words; but I couldn't remember either of them. I told him that I would look into it; and get back to him next week.

This evening I began to reconstruct my discoveries; when I noticed that those are not rare cases.

I'm now determined to search out every Hebrew word that has multiple Strong's numbers assigned to it.

Aloha
Those multiple numerical entries basically show the various Contextual meanings, and are usually vowel pointed differently, ergo they have been assigned separate entries;

The Hebrew lexicons are more like a Thesaurus than a Dictionary, in that none of the words are actually defined, they are rather showing attempts to capture a word for word meaning from a given context;

No word is defined by a single word, cases presented as such are referred to as Synonyms, not definitions;

The Strong’s Concordance is neither Perfected nor Complete, but if it were, it would prove to be the most valuable study tool for a disciple, here in lies the true value of Strong’s Concordance, in that it provides easy navigation and quick reference to the words translated, and the words that they were translated from;

The definitive meaning of a word is strictly derived from the various contexts in which it is found, whereas many cognates have been formed solely to distinguish one contextual usage from another, which is convenient and helpful when discerning a particular intent, however the word of Alohym is often (if not always) intended to convey more than a single particular, case and point, Yeremiyahu 1:11

Yeremiyahu what do you See? I See the rod of שקד an Almond tree! You have Seen correctly, for I will שקד ‘Expedite’ the performance of those which ‘Keep the Watch’ over my word.

Same word here שקד has three applications Hasten/Expedite, Almond (tree), and Keep the Watch, more importantly notice how Yahuah informs Yeremiyahu that his verbal punctuation of the word שקד (though different) is Correct.

Also note, In order to attain this particular translation I had to reiterate and repunctuate the 2nd שקד.

 

[Laureate]

The only thing misleading about Strong’s Concordance is (potentially) one’s understanding of what they are looking at.

Yes! It records all of the flaws of the translators which made poor or treacherous translations, yet if one pays close attention, they will see that the KJV testifies against itself, and that the Strong’s Concordance is a faithful witness to that testimony.

 

[Laureate]

The meaning of Words can be quite vast, but when they are placed within a particular Formula/Context they bring forth distinctions to the forefront which may not readily appear viable when the same word is found in another Formula/Context.

An ideal definition is when a definitive formula is equitably comprehensible in every context that a word is found, such is the primary goal of a serious lexicographer to attain such.

When we define or translate a word with a Synonym, we are putting a particular Slant on the word being defined or translated, and that can be misleading to a reader who thinks that they are reading an equitable and complete word for word meaning.

 

[HARK!]

Aloha
Those multiple numerical entries basically show the various Contextual meanings, and are usually vowel pointed differently, ergo they have been assigned separate entries;

Howdy Laureate,

Not always; and there were no niqqud in Ancient Hebrew, The Massoretes added those, based on the Pharisaic understanding of scripture, in their particular dialect, of an evolving language, in a different culture, long after it was written, and nearly 1000 years after Messiah tried to set them straight.

 

[HARK!]

The Hebrew lexicons are more like a Thesaurus than a Dictionary, in that none of the words are actually defined, they are rather showing attempts to capture a word for word meaning from a given context;

Many people make the mistake of using Strong's for a dictionary. It's a big mistake. As I pointed out in the OP, Strong purports to have attempted to assign a number to each Hebrew word; and then list the way that King James and crew, attempted to translate those words. As this thread demonstrates, Strong didn't do a very good job with achieving his purported goal.

Clearly King James and crew weren't very well studied in Ancient Hebrew.

This thread serves to improve on Strong's work.

 

[HARK!]

The definitive meaning of a word is strictly derived from the various contexts in which it is found, whereas many cognates have been formed solely to distinguish one contextual usage from another, which is convenient and helpful when discerning a particular intent, however the word of Alohym is often (if not always) intended to convey more than a single particular, case and point, Yeremiyahu 1:11

Yeremiyahu what do you See? I See the rod of שקד an Almond tree! You have Seen correctly, for I will שקד ‘Expedite’ the performance of those which ‘Keep the Watch’ over my word.

Same word here שקד has three applications Hasten/Expedite, Almond (tree), and Keep the Watch, more importantly notice how Yahuah informs Yeremiyahu that his verbal punctuation of the word שקד (though different) is Correct.

Also note, In order to attain this particular translation I had to reiterate and repunctuate the 2nd שקד.

Ancient Hebrew is the product of concrete, as opposed to abstract, thought. Each ote conveys a concrete thought.

Unlike English, where letters express the phonetics of a word; and those phonetics are assigned to a definition, that can change as the language "evolves;" the otiot of Ancient Hebrew define the meaning of the word; and the phonetics are assigned to the meaning.

In the original texts there were no spaces between the otiot. It was a continuous string of otiot, that expressed a thought.

To better understand the meaning of what was written, as it was written, and to whom it was written at that time, it would serve us well to understand the culture of the time in which it was written. For Example: I've had numerous revelations regarding scripture as I've been shifting to a more agrarian lifestyle.

It would also serve us well to think like an Ancient Hebrew, in concrete, as opposed to abstract thought.

Having been raised in a culture that is steeped in the abstract Greek Philosophy, removed from an Agrarian lifestyle thousands of years removed from the culture; this is not an easy task.

However, despite my handicaps, I will attempt to bring harmony to this seemly disconnected meanings of how this word might have been understood by Ancient Hebrews

To begin, I challenge that SQD expresses "almond tree," but rather simply an almond.

In addition SQD expresses the eye. This is the concrete meaning of the word. Concrete expressions are of what can be seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or felt.


"Watch" is the action of the eye. "Watch" is the action form of this word.

An almond is shaped like an eye.

This might seem like a cop out for an explanation, or maybe even crazy talk; but we must understand that Ancient Hebrews had a entirely different way of thinking than of most of the world today, and it was a completely different culture.

There are still tribal cultures that still think in concrete thought today. They have equal difficulty in understanding the way that we think.

 

[be(t)et lamed resh]

Ancient Hebrew is the product of concrete, as opposed to abstract, thought. Each ote conveys a concrete thought.

Unlike English, where letters express the phonetics of a word; and those phonetics are assigned to a definition, that can change as the language "evolves;" the otiot of Ancient Hebrew define the meaning of the word; and the phonetics are assigned to the meaning.

In the original texts there were no spaces between the otiot. It was a continuous string of otiot, that expressed a thought.

To better understand the meaning of what was written, as it was written, and to whom it was written at that time, it would serve us well to understand the culture of the time in which it was written. For Example: I've had numerous revelations regarding scripture as I've been shifting to a more agrarian lifestyle.

It would also serve us well to think like an Ancient Hebrew, in concrete, as opposed to abstract thought.

Having been raised in a culture that is steeped in the abstract Greek Philosophy, removed from an Agrarian lifestyle thousands of years removed from the culture; this is not an easy task.

However, despite my handicaps, I will attempt to bring harmony to this seemly disconnected meanings of how this word might have been understood by Ancient Hebrews

To begin, I challenge that SQD expresses "almond tree," but rather simply an almond.

In addition SQD expresses the eye. This is the concrete meaning of the word. Concrete expressions are of what can be seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or felt.


"Watch" is the action of the eye. "Watch" is the action form of this word.

An almond is shaped like an eye.

This might seem like a cop out for an explanation, or maybe even crazy talk; but we must understand that Ancient Hebrews had a entirely different way of thinking than of most of the world today, and it was a completely different culture.

There are still tribal cultures that still think in concrete thought today. They have equal difficulty in understanding the way that we think.

Almond tree because it is first to blossom of the trees[focus on color]. Hence the same word (shin,qof,dalet) relating to vigilance and or diligence. Aaron's staff that budded kept in the ark to correlate such. The single letter for eye in hebrew is ayin or ayin yod nun.

עֵינַי, כָּלוּ לִישׁוּעָתֶךָ; וּלְאִמְרַת צִדְקֶךָ.

123 Mine eyes fail for Thy salvation, and for Thy righteous word.

Hebrew Word of the Day - almond, almonds - שָׁקֵד, שְׁקֵדִים

Almonds were special and given as a gift of respect to Joseph (then the ruler of Egypt) by his father and his brothers: “And their father Israel said to them, ‘If it must be so now, do this; take of the best fruits in the land in your utensils, and carry down a present to […]

hebrew.jerusalemprayerteam.org

 

[be(t)et lamed resh]

Ancient Hebrew is the product of concrete, as opposed to abstract, thought. Each ote conveys a concrete thought.

Unlike English, where letters express the phonetics of a word; and those phonetics are assigned to a definition, that can change as the language "evolves;" the otiot of Ancient Hebrew define the meaning of the word; and the phonetics are assigned to the meaning.

In the original texts there were no spaces between the otiot. It was a continuous string of otiot, that expressed a thought.

To better understand the meaning of what was written, as it was written, and to whom it was written at that time, it would serve us well to understand the culture of the time in which it was written. For Example: I've had numerous revelations regarding scripture as I've been shifting to a more agrarian lifestyle.

It would also serve us well to think like an Ancient Hebrew, in concrete, as opposed to abstract thought.

Having been raised in a culture that is steeped in the abstract Greek Philosophy, removed from an Agrarian lifestyle thousands of years removed from the culture; this is not an easy task.

However, despite my handicaps, I will attempt to bring harmony to this seemly disconnected meanings of how this word might have been understood by Ancient Hebrews

To begin, I challenge that SQD expresses "almond tree," but rather simply an almond.

In addition SQD expresses the eye. This is the concrete meaning of the word. Concrete expressions are of what can be seen, heard, smelled, tasted, or felt.


"Watch" is the action of the eye. "Watch" is the action form of this word.

An almond is shaped like an eye.

This might seem like a cop out for an explanation, or maybe even crazy talk; but we must understand that Ancient Hebrews had a entirely different way of thinking than of most of the world today, and it was a completely different culture.

There are still tribal cultures that still think in concrete thought today. They have equal difficulty in understanding the way that we think.

Nikkud(5) aside dont forget the jot and tittle(2) along with 22 consonants totaling 28 factors if one considers the alef silently. 28 is the dimension of the curtain to the mishkan. And likely related to the moon cycle before it drifted away.
5:2 ratio is found in the 7 letters given the qahal in revelation. 2 praised and 5 warned with ayin, dalet, hei

שֶׁשׁ-הֵנָּה, שָׂנֵא יְהוָה; וְשֶׁבַע, תועבות תּוֹעֲבַת נַפְשׁוֹ.

16 There are six things which the LORD hateth, yea, seven which are an abomination unto Him: