The Sola Scriptura is erroneous

[thecolorsblend]

Solo Scripture and and Prima Scriptura both refer to the same concept, but with Prima Scriptura more precisely communicating the relationship between the Bible and other sources of authority.

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Let's try again.

I asked if your position is more in line with "prima scriptura".

A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

 

[Soyeong]

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Let's try again.

I asked if your position is more in line with "prima scriptura".

A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice.

They both refer to the same position, so no.

 

[Soyeong]

A difficulty arises, though, when humans try to figure out what the Bible means. That is the major crux. Which inevitably leads to human thoughts / interpretations on what the Bible means, which leads to various schools of thought on what the Bible means, which in turn become a type of tradition interpreting Scripture in and of itself. With which someone will inevitably disagree, causing them to form their own school of thought / denomination / movement / sincere attempt to re-create Apostolic Christianity based on Scripture alone.

Iron sharpens iron, so I see that as a good thing, whereas it is pride that turns it into a bad thing. I've been wrong about many things in the past and I likely will be wrong about many things in the future, so there are most likely things that I currently hold to be true that I am wrong about, I just don't know which things they are. However, if I am never challenged to defend what I believe and never genuinely consider whether someone else who believes differently might be correct, then I will never find out which things that I am wrong about. I've certainly changed my views about a number of different topics over the years I've spent discussing theology on various forums, even about what I would consider to be a major issue, which I certainly hope reflects taking in new true information and disregarding things that I wrongly through to be true rather than the other way around, but such is the process of learning. Again, it is generally pride that is the source of division among the Church.

 

[Soyeong]

Everybody means well, but no one gets it right. Many come close, which is great, but still not perfect. And if Christ really did found a Church, it should keep saying the same thing and not turn away from itself.

The Greek word "ekklesia" is translated as "church" as is used many times in the Septuagint to refer to Israel in the wilderness, so that is when the Church Age began and it has always referred to the assembly of God's chosen people. In Acts 15:16-17, they quoted the prophecy in Amos 9:11-12 in application to themselves, so they certainly saw themselves as the restoration of Israel in fulfillment of prophecy rather than as a brand new entity distinct from Israel. The consistent message of every single prophet up to and including Jesus was to repent from our sins, the Mosaic Law is how they knew what sin is, and so we should not turn away from this truth.

 

[sunlover1]

Everybody means well, but no one gets it right.

Bible says it's so simple a child can get it.

And if Christ really did found a Church, it should keep saying the same thing and not turn away from itself.

It does really.
It (the Church Christ established, aka the body of Christ Eph 1:22-23) says that Jesus
is the Son of God and that He is the way the truth and the life.
The church teaches the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, just as Christ did.
What more do we need? Once you're born again, you have the Spirit of God
leading you into truth and bringing power for living, for walking in love, joy,
peace, patience, ...

 

[ripple the car]

Bible says it's so simple a child can get it.

It does really.
It (the Church Christ established, aka the body of Christ Eph 1:22-23) says that Jesus
is the Son of God and that He is the way the truth and the life.
The church teaches the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven, just as Christ did.
What more do we need? Once you're born again, you have the Spirit of God
leading you into truth and bringing power for living, for walking in love, joy,
peace, patience, ...

Respectfully, dozens of well-meaning, sincere, truly persuaded denominations of Protestantism can not agree on sexual ethics, eschatology, Christology, ecclesiology, how we are saved, open or closed communion, infant or believers' baptism, hierarchy, what happens after death, judgement, Mariology, hagiology, gender roles, and Creation.

 

[sunlover1]

Respectfully, dozens of well-meaning, sincere, truly persuaded denominations of Protestantism can not agree on sexual ethics, eschatology, Christology, ecclesiology, how we are saved, open or closed communion, infant or believers' baptism, hierarchy, what happens after death, judgement, Mariology, hagiology, gender roles, and Creation.

I agree.
How did Paul deal with these things?

 

[Dale]

Respectfully, dozens of well-meaning, sincere, truly persuaded denominations of Protestantism can not agree on sexual ethics, eschatology, Christology, ecclesiology, how we are saved, open or closed communion, infant or believers' baptism, hierarchy, what happens after death, judgement, Mariology, hagiology, gender roles, and Creation.

Respectfully, show me a thousand Catholic priests who agree on sexual ethics, eschatology, ecclesiology, open or closed communion, etc. etc. ...

 

[ripple the car]

Respectfully, show me a thousand Catholic priests who agree on sexual ethics, eschatology, ecclesiology, open or closed communion, etc. etc. ...

Ah, but there is a body of Church teaching from which they may well be departing.