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I didn't catch that in the movie---was it presented that Jesus didn't do anything above what we--as humans-- can do? IOW....the disciples were able to use God's power to heal just as Jesus did. Jesus didn't use His authority to stop the crucifixion (or His beatings--and the effects of the beatings). So....that can be a true assertion. He remained limited by His physical body.Southbound said:"Papa" claims that Jesus never drew upon His divine power or authority as God.
Isn't it said in the Bible that Jesus is "the mediator between God and man"?
Right....but that doesn't discount the mutual submission of the Trinity.True. However, if you lean on that part too heavily, you wind up in a sort of modalism where Jesus is not God in the flesh, but a sort of sub-divine being.
Would you, JimmyJimmy, or someone else care to post what you see as the heresies in the film (or even just one)? Thanks.
That's the way to put a stop to discussionHave you read the book or watched the film? If you've read the book or seen the film, yet pose this question then no amount of our explaining will help.
I agree. One God---one purpose---one united will.Precisely, "mutual" being the key word.
Have you read the book or watched the film? If you've read the book or seen the film, yet pose this question then no amount of our explaining will help.
True. However, if you lean on that part too heavily, you wind up in a sort of modalism where Jesus is not God in the flesh, but a sort of sub-divine being.
Southbound's response: "By reading what God has to say about them in His Word"mkgal1 said:....and how do we discern when there are things left to mystery (which is a LOT)?
Thing is, the Trinity wasn't sound doctrine until 300 years after Jesus left.
Simply put, it is more accurate to view God as male than as female or a Spirit without gender, because that's how he revealed himself to us.
That is ONE of the ways He revealed himself to us. He also revealed to us through nature....through ALL of creation.Greg J. said:Simply put, it is more accurate to view God as male than as female or a Spirit without gender, because that's how he revealed himself to us.
That is ONE of the ways He revealed himself to us. He also reveals us through nature....through ALL of creation.
I never implied God IS creation. The whole original statement was referring to how God reveals himself to us.Be careful. Though God can show himself through creation, he is not creation. They are distinct. To say otherwise is pantheism.
When God parted the Red Sea, he revealed his power. He wasn't saying he was the sea.
I never implied God IS creation. The whole original statement was referring to how God reveals himself to us.
But....since you did issue that warning: be careful or what? I believe God allows for us to think things through....get creative....and not just follow a strict and restricted way of thinking. I don't believe I'm going to get zapped by a lightning bolt (but don't read that to mean I have little reverence and awe for God---I do).
Be careful. Though God can show himself through creation, he is not creation. They are distinct. To say otherwise is pantheism.
When God parted the Red Sea, he revealed his power. He wasn't saying he was the sea.
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