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Pretending that that is even remotely what I'm doing is decidedly unhelpful to the truth.Avoiding the fact that the officer believed it to be a gun is not helpful to the truth.
So after exploring all the facts, was there a criminal conviction of the officers? That should provide all the evidence that is required for any reasonable person.And he knew that he had no gun to put down which was the instruction he was given. He had his wallet to show his is. Even fully functioning brains can be temporarily confused when startled. The cops were confused but you excuse them even though in their confusion they killed an innocent man. Their immediate response was to shoot the guy until he was dead.
394 Police officers were killed in the line of duty last year, 5 black people were killed under uncertain circumstances, which one has the most reason to be in fear for their life. Simple once you look at the facts, isn't it.Ah so I can't do anything If I fear for my life, but the police are free to shoot if they're in fear of their life.
Got it.
I think it's pretty clear that the state's power and authority are more important to you than the rights of the people that live in that society. You appear to believe that a person's rights and life can justifiably be ended if a law enforcement officer feels unsafe.See how easy it is to make decisions after the event when all the facts are known and someone can sit around a week while that person and five other people discuss the event and decide what the officer should have done BUT when you think a gun is pointed at you there is no time to sit back, get all the fact, contemplate what the possible potential actions could be and select the best one.
...have you ever heard of Rodney King?So after exploring all the facts, was there a criminal conviction of the officers? That should provide all the evidence that is required for any reasonable person.
Police killed 1,021 people last year.394 Police officers were killed in the line of duty last year, 5 black people were killed under uncertain circumstances, which one has the most reason to be in fear for their life. Simple once you look at the facts, isn't it.
Thanks for your thought but I follow the commands of the police, I do not resist arrest, I do not take actions that cause the officer to believe that I am about to shoot him or her. I am as safe as a babe in my mothers arms and so is anyone else who conducts themselves as I do.I think it's pretty clear that the state's power and authority are more important to you than the rights of the people that live in that society. You appear to believe that a person's rights and life can justifiably be ended if a law enforcement officer feels unsafe.
I continue to argue that it is very clear that the person that aimed a gun at an unarmed person and shot them is the dangerous one, and that the person that was shot is the victim.
Perhaps one day you too will be shot and killed because an officer mistakenly thought you were too dangerous, and someone else will speak up to defend your murderer. They'll say how it's your fault for not complying when someone threatens to kill you.
That figure has nothing to do with what we are talking about, it is like blaming the officer who kept a girl from being killed by killing the assaulter. Police do need to use deadly force to save the innocent.
Thanks for your thought but I follow the commands of the police, I do not resist arrest, I do not take actions that cause the officer to believe that I am about to shoot him or her. I am as safe as a babe in my mothers arms and so is anyone else who conducts themselves as I do.
Do you really believe that justice always prevails? That what is was meant to be?So after exploring all the facts, was there a criminal conviction of the officers? That should provide all the evidence that is required for any reasonable person.
394 Police officers were killed in the line of duty last year, 5 black people were killed under uncertain circumstances, which one has the most reason to be in fear for their life. Simple once you look at the facts, isn't it.
Thanks for your thought but I follow the commands of the police, I do not resist arrest, I do not take actions that cause the officer to believe that I am about to shoot him or her. I am as safe as a babe in my mothers arms and so is anyone else who conducts themselves as I do.
The rule of thumb is to do whatever the person pointing a gun at you orders you to do. This applies to both Police pointing a gun at you and criminals pointing a gun at you. In both cases, ignoring the instructions of the person with the gun carries the risk of getting shot.Ah so I can't do anything If I fear for my life, but the police are free to shoot if they're in fear of their life.
Got it.
The rule of thumb is to do whatever the person pointing a gun at you orders you to do. This applies to both Police pointing a gun at you and criminals pointing a gun at you. In both cases, ignoring the instructions of the person with the gun carries the risk of getting shot.
Someone with a gun ordered someone to stop reaching for an unknown object. That reaching person exercised their right to ignore the command and to continue to reach for an unknown object. The person with the gun carried out on the implied threat of pointing a gun in the first place.
I think the driver has to accept his share of the responsibility for getting shot by refusing to do as he was told. I think the police officer lacks the temperament to hold that position and was far too nervous given the situation. He could have backed out of immediate danger and relied on the support from other officers already on the scene. The officer failed in his obligation to deescalate and the driver failed in his duty to keep his hands in plain sight at all times.
It required the failure of both men to follow their training (as police and as a gun carrier) to cause this result.
Traffic Stops ARE a life or death situation. More police are shot during traffic stops than any other call except "Domestic Disturbance". Every traffic stop is potentially a felon with an illegal gun ready to shoot a police officer focused on a brake light or a speeding ticket. Sixty times per year, that is exactly how an officer gets shot and 12 of them die. One gets shot every week and one dies every month. The officer approaching your car knows those statistics. Is this HIS week? His month?Perhaps it is time to quit making traffic stops a life or death situation?
Perhaps it is time to quit making traffic stops a life or death situation?
The instance you’ve responded to the officer made the stop because of aTraffic Stops ARE a life or death situation. More police are shot during traffic stops than any other call except "Domestic Disturbance". Every traffic stop is potentially a felon with an illegal gun ready to shoot a police officer focused on a brake light or a speeding ticket. Sixty times per year, that is exactly how an officer gets shot and 12 of them die. One gets shot every week and one dies every month. The officer approaching your car knows those statistics. Is this HIS week? His month?
Typically, the shooter goes to jail.What about the people who do what they are told and still get shot?
I did not respond to the incident ... I don't watch every video posted.The instance you’ve responded to the officer made the stop because of amurder...robbery...burglary“seatbelt violation”.
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