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The science of creationism: where is it?

juvenissun

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Sure. Explain the mechanism by which God manipulates the physical to create matter from null states.

This is done by definition, not through a mechanism. Otherwise, we become god. So, this unanswered "question" is, in fact, the definition of creationism.
 
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If according to the Bible all humans have descended from Adam and Eve has humanity been living in sin all this time by marrying relatives?

Hi, AV, help!. Does God say that we should not marry close relatives?

Without being sure on that, I assume that marrying relatives is a sinful act, even it is biologically unfavorable.

How would this question matter with creationism?
 
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A computer can genrate speech, how much more GOD?!

are you saying that god speaks like a computer? That his voice can measured in this physical world like a computer? remember a computer only repeats whats generated by people.
 
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Hi, AV, help!. Does God say that we should not marry close relatives?
Indeed He does --- (see Leviticus 18).
Without being sure on that, I assume that marrying relatives is a sinful act, even it is biologically unfavorable.
Today, both apply --- it is both a sinful act and biologically unfavorable.

In fact, the reason it is biologically unfavorable is why it was legislated against.
 
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Now a question for you. Give us one question evolution cannot answer.
Name five transitionals in a row that came one after another and dovetail into each other?

In other words, there are no missing links between them.
 
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You are a very confused science thinker.

How so? You said it takes only one unanswered question to disprove evoluiton. If you follow your logic then everything can be disproven because we have unanswered questions.

We recognize the facts. For example, gravity and fossils. But we do not know the origin.

We know the origin of fossils. We don't know the origin of gravity. According to your logic, gravity is therefore disproven.

The current interpretation of gravity takes a high level understanding of physics. Not everyone can question it.

Nobody has been able to explain the origin of gravity (thus far).

But the current interpretation of fossil only need your head and your eyes.

I agree 100%!

Evolution does a very poor job in interpreting the facts. Questions to it are obvious and are everywhere.

How does it do a poor job? As we go back in the fossil record we see organisms that look less similar and less "complex" the farther we go back in time. The only explanation is evolution.
We have genetic analysis which provides even further proof. We have a multitude of evidence from widely spaced scientific fields that support evolution.
The point of my statement is that unanswered questions do not make an idea disproven (because what if the question gets answered later).

God? It does even take one unanswered question. Even every question is answered, He is still disproved by many.

According to your logic, these questions should disprove God if they cannot be answered.
Why would God make whales and hippos so closely related?
If God always existed (a potential infinite) why did he wait until the last 6,000 years of his infinite past existence to create the universe?

(BTW, "God's ways are not our ways" etc. constitutes an unanswered question)
 
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Name five transitionals in a row that came one after another and dovetail into each other?

In other words, there are no missing links between them.

Please, please, I want to answer :clap: :

1. your great great grandfather
2. your great grandfather
3. your grandfather
4. your father
5. you

It was just such a nice question :hug:
 
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Please, please, I want to answer :clap: :

1. your great great grandfather
2. your great grandfather
3. your grandfather
4. your father
5. you

It was just such a nice question :hug:
Binomials, please.
 
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Binomials, please.

If I understand your request correctly, the answer would be:
1. your great great grandfather & your great great grandmother
2. your great grandfather & your great grandmother
3. your grandfather & your grandmother
4. your father & your mother
5. you

:confused:
 
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Name five transitionals in a row that came one after another and dovetail into each other?

In other words, there are no missing links between them.

That's not a question.

I'll tell you anyway>
1. Cannartus tubarius
2. C. violina
3. C. mammiferus
4. C. laticonus
5. C. petterssoni

Now I have one for you. Where in the Garden did Cain kill Abel? If you cannot answer, then creationism is proven wrong.
 
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Now I have one for you. Where in the Garden did Cain kill Abel? If you cannot answer, then creationism is proven wrong.
Cain did not kill Abel in the Garden.
Genesis 4:8 said:
And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
 
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Cain did not kill Abel in the Garden.

What makes you think the field wasn't in The Garden? Where in The Field did Cain kill Abel?

*sorry* Correction: Adam and Eve were thrown out of The Garden before they had the kiddies. :doh:

Ohh, here's another... What was the name of Cain's wife? How tall was she? What was her favorite fruit? If you cannot answer these questions, Creationism is proven wrong!
 
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How so? You said it takes only one unanswered question to disprove evoluiton. If you follow your logic then everything can be disproven because we have unanswered questions.



We know the origin of fossils. We don't know the origin of gravity. According to your logic, gravity is therefore disproven.



Nobody has been able to explain the origin of gravity (thus far).



I agree 100%!



How does it do a poor job? As we go back in the fossil record we see organisms that look less similar and less "complex" the farther we go back in time. The only explanation is evolution.
We have genetic analysis which provides even further proof. We have a multitude of evidence from widely spaced scientific fields that support evolution.
The point of my statement is that unanswered questions do not make an idea disproven (because what if the question gets answered later).



According to your logic, these questions should disprove God if they cannot be answered.
Why would God make whales and hippos so closely related?
If God always existed (a potential infinite) why did he wait until the last 6,000 years of his infinite past existence to create the universe?

(BTW, "God's ways are not our ways" etc. constitutes an unanswered question)

This footnote shows your fatal misunderstanding and mistake.
Creationism is, in fact, bullet proof. Otherwise, why would it be called creationism?

In creationism, we can answer any question according to science as well as any evolutionist can do. When evolutionism get stuck and failed to answer (always), creationism can still continue to quote God's word as the best answer. It was the case, it is the case and it will be the same case.

I have said this at least hundred times. How come you still don't get it?
 
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juvenissun

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How did god turn dirt to Adam?

Now a question for you. Give us one question evolution cannot answer.

I really like to know this one, but I do not hold any breath on you:

Why are we so much smarter than ape? (if you think you are an ape, you may include yourself in it, but don't count me in).
 
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This footnote shows your fatal misunderstanding and mistake.
Creationism is, in fact, bullet proof. Otherwise, why would it be called creationism?

In creationism, we can answer any question according to science as well as any evolutionist can do. When evolutionism get stuck and failed to answer (always), creationism can still continue to quote God's word as the best answer. It was the case, it is the case and it will be the same case.

I have said this at least hundred times. How come you still don't get it?


Because it's a load of smeg?

"Creationism is, in fact, bullet proof. Otherwise, why would it be called creationism?" is like saying "Wood is, in fact, made of metal. Otherwise why would it be called wood?"

If Creationism is bullet proof, then it's only bullet proof in the same way a net is bullet proof. You're essentially shooting at a load of holes.

Creationism has an answer to every question, yes. That answer is always the same "Goddidit!". Which, ultimately, doesn't answer anything.

Evolution never fails to answer questions that are relevant to it. The only time it can't answer questions, is when the question is something like "How was the universe made?" or "How did life begin?". Questions that have squat to do with evolution.

And the times it does answer questions, you don't even understand the answer, or apparently, the question*. But to anyone who has the slightest clue what the answer is about, it makes perfect sense and answers it flawlessly.


* 99% of the time out of your own willful ignorance.
 
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Indeed He does --- (see Leviticus 18).Today, both apply --- it is both a sinful act and biologically unfavorable.

In fact, the reason it is biologically unfavorable is why it was legislated against.

Thanks. I know I can count on you.
 
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What makes you think the field wasn't in The Garden? Where in The Field did Cain kill Abel?

*sorry* Correction: Adam and Eve were thrown out of The Garden before they had the kiddies. :doh:

Ohh, here's another... What was the name of Cain's wife? How tall was she? What was her favorite fruit? If you cannot answer these questions, Creationism is proven wrong!

Amy; 6'1"; Watermelon.

I guess creationism is STILL wrong to you, ape.
 
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