The Schumer Shutdown

[Desk trauma]

That's the issue, isn't it? That Trump's vision of the Constitution is warped and ugly, and misrepresents the vision of the framers.

I’m sure his understanding of the constitution is as extensive as his understanding of the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yeah but for many people it’s a low paid job which is not good enough to live on because the business owner is too bad at business to be able to pay a living wage without going bankrupt.

Who would want to support that system? It just encourages poor business practice and subsidises failing businesses.

Uh huh. And what is the employee in such a job free to do in a free market economy? He can apply for a better job with different employer.

 

[Aldebaran]

That’s not the fault of the unions that’s fault of the business owners who put profits over people. Using bullyboy tactics to keep the working man in his place.

And you want to prop that system up? Why are you on the side of the people who sacked you?

I was working as a security guard with a security company that was contracted at a site of a factory. The factory was able to find a different contractor to take our place because our contractor had to charge the factory more for our services because we were now getting paid more, which our company told us they couldn't afford to do. So then the factory got a different security contractor that could do the job for less than what we were getting. That's how a free market economy works.

 

[Aldebaran]

That's the issue, isn't it? That Trump's vision of the Constitution is warped and ugly, and misrepresents the vision of the framers.

I doubt the framers of the Constitution wanted illegal aliens invading the country, and then getting benefits at the same time.

 

[BCP1928]

I doubt the framers of the Constitution wanted illegal aliens invading the country, and then getting benefits at the same time.

What were the legal requirements for gaining residence at that time? How did they define "invasion?" What government health care benefits were valuable then and how did one qualify for them?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Seriously? In every single instant where some type of government healthcare system like what was talked about was implemented, it has lower costs and better overall health for the population, but you just aren't sure? Really?

Name two

 

[DaisyDay]

I’m sure his understanding of the constitution is as extensive as his understanding of the Declaration of Independence.

That is so mean! Just because he got the DoI totally wrong is no reason to impugn his knowledge and understanding of the Constitution. Sure, he came off as a total buffoon saying the DoI was about "a declaration of unity and love and respect" but anyone could make that mistake! Maybe he did have the reporter fired, but Moran's expression was incredulous and he refused to say Trump was right about Albrego Garcia's tattoos, so he had to go. We can't have reporters contradicting the president to his face!

 

[DaisyDay]

I doubt the framers of the Constitution wanted illegal aliens invading the country, and then getting benefits at the same time.

What benefits? For that matter, what illegal aliens? People crossed borders freely back in the late 18th century.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

I doubt the framers of the Constitution wanted illegal aliens invading the country, and then getting benefits at the same time.

They owned people as slaves.

 

[7thKeeper]

Name two

UK, France, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland.

There's five. All with differing systems, but all giving universal coverage by different means.

 

[ralliann]

Democrats Dismiss Concerns About Key Program Going Unfunded During Imminent Schumer-Caused Shutdown​

Senate Democrats, appearing to move full steam ahead with plunging the country into a government shutdown, are mum on the consequences for millions of women and babies who could go hungry during a prolonged funding lapse.

The Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants and Children (WIC), which helps assist low-income parents and children with groceries, is expected to face substantial disruptions during a government shutdown. Despite the prospect of WIC running out of funding within days after a funding lapse, Senate Democrats have largely dismissed concerns that WIC recipients will not be able to access benefits during an indefinite shutdown.

This is what Socialism does...They have been throwing money after illegal aliens, our services and institutions for our citizens have been threatened and overwhelmed (schools, hospitals, medicade, housing, etc. )This what socialism does. Destroy our system to make us dependent, to build their own. They have gotten quite far. Our courts are corrupt, out police defunded, criminals released, not charged, and blood is beginning to be spilled.

 

[Larniavc]

Uh huh. And what is the employee in such a job free to do in a free market economy? He can apply for a better job with different employer.

What if they can’t?

 

[Larniavc]

I was working as a security guard with a security company that was contracted at a site of a factory. The factory was able to find a different contractor to take our place because our contractor had to charge the factory more for our services because we were now getting paid more, which our company told us they couldn't afford to do. So then the factory got a different security contractor that could do the job for less than what we were getting. That's how a free market economy works.

I don’t get the point you are trying to make. Why didn’t you just apply for the new company? Isn’t that what happens in a free market economy?

 

[Larniavc]

I doubt the framers of the Constitution wanted illegal aliens invading the country, and then getting benefits at the same time.

I really do get the feeling that the framers of the Constitution had very little idea of how things would be after nearly 250 years.

 

[Always in His Presence]

UK, France, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland.

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

 

[ralliann]

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

There are nations and people accepting of socialism and communism. Those nations that are at not yet at full socialism, are enjoying it, and saying it is good. SO, FAR, that is. Of course they are being compliant, and it has not reached it's fullness when the money runs out... Only those at the top prosper when that happens. America as a nation like no other is strong on individual freedom. Thus taking us down can is why all the violence, and politicians flouting the law, and not caring one iota about our vote., of WE THE PEOPLE. They are a government to themselves, not we the people. They do not give squat for the peoples choice. They don;t care about their poll numbers. They have the judicial system, they have the news media working for them, their educators working for them to future generations. Especially Ivy leagues where the next generation of the powerful come from.
Look at our college kids. Violent socialists.

 

[7thKeeper]

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

Please point out where I made such a claim? The topic was healthcare costs and results.
And you pulled at least some of those numbers from someone's behind. Average tax rate in Sweden for example is ~23%. Please don't tell me you're yet another one who doesn't under how tax brackets work, that seems to be a very common occurrence amongst US conservatives.

 

[BCP1928]

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

All for health care?

 

[BCP1928]

There are nations and people accepting of socialism and communism. Those nations that are at not yet at full socialism, are enjoying it, and saying it is good. SO, FAR, that is. Of course they are being compliant, and it has not reached it's fullness when the money runs out... Only those at the top prosper when that happens. America as a nation like no other is strong on individual freedom. Thus taking us down can is why all the violence, and politicians flouting the law, and not caring one iota about our vote., of WE THE PEOPLE. They are a government to themselves, not we the people. They do not give squat for the peoples choice. They don;t care about their poll numbers. They have the judicial system, they have the news media working for them, their educators working for them to future generations. Especially Ivy leagues where the next generation of the powerful come from.
Look at our college kids. Violent socialists.

That's where MAGA is going all right. And if they keep pushing it that's who they'll wind up having to deal with--violent socialists.

 

[Pommer]

UK has an income tax rate of 40% if you make more than 52k

France has an income tax rate of 30%

Sweden has an income tax rate of 52%

If you truly believe the taxpayer is not paying for healthcare, you are greatly deceived

30-50% of your income for life.

An F-35 costs somewhere around $110M (or 30 top-of-the-line MRI machines); fortunately due to tax-cuts, future generations will be paying.