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They should cut the pay of all Senators and Congressional Reps. No pay for the military - no pay for Congress.
Why didn't Trump come up with a deal that would pass?Wow! Then why was it Schumer and his friends who cast the deciding votes that shut down the government?
Trump could have proposed a deal that would have passed across the aisle. He chose not to.How could Schumer do that if Trump is "in charge of the entire government"? Is Trump in charge of Schumer too?
So...wait until you have time then? You're not adding anything to the discussion by spamming Fox News articles that you haven't even read.I'm posting during my breaks at work. I don’t have the time to debate you like I debated my fellow college students back in the 80s.
I have read those short articles. Have you?So...wait until you have time then? You're not adding anything to the discussion by spamming Fox News articles that you haven't even read.
Well, no, they technically didn't. They knew they didn't have the votes to do that and decided not to do anything to gain the required votes. They actively chose not to keep the government open.What's to negotiate? The Republicans all voted to keep the government open.
So do the DemocratsWell, no, they technically didn't. They knew they didn't have the votes to do that and decided not to do anything to gain the required votes. They actively chose not to keep the government open.
I know, it's hard to adult and compromise on things to get some of what you want, but that's how governments work. You gotta adult.
Yes. They don't refute anything I've said, which is why I questioned whether or not you've read them.I have read those short articles. Have you?
Yep. And seems to me they were willing to let the Republican's have some of what they wanted if they got some of what they wanted. And they offered to negotiate, but Republicans didn't. So it's not the same thing, even if you want to make it so.So do the Democrats
The Republicans are suggesting and extension of what the Democrats supported before Yrump was in office.Yep. And seems to me they were willing to let the Republican's have some of what they wanted if they got some of what they wanted. And they offered to negotiate, but Republicans didn't. So it's not the same thing, even if you want to make it so.
Uh yeah they did. The Democrats voted not to. Thats how it works. The democrats knew the Reblicans werent going to give them 2 trillion dollars. They acted like children saying if you don't give me what I want I'm going home. This is the Drmocrats fault. Plain and simple.Well, no, they technically didn't.
I blame Republicans for the shutdowns under Obama because they asked for concessions, got those concessions, and then still voted "No" on the budget. That would be like if the Republicans today put forward a funding bill that included ACA subsidy extensions and Democrats refused to vote for it. You'd be right to blame the Dems for that.
And Trump explicitly took credit for the 2019 shutdown, so I'm happy to agree with that.
I’m not sure why. A significant proportion of Americans will put up with all kinds of deprivations if they can be convinced the ones they don’t like are worse off.It's amazing to me how many people are willing to harm themselves for the opportunity to inflict what they think will harm someone else more.
Your question in response to my question indicates you don't have an answer.Why didn't Trump come up with a deal that would pass?
No reasonable deal would be accepted when those "across the aisle" (Schumer and his friends) are willing to play politics with the paychecks of 750,000 workers.Trump could have proposed a deal that would have passed across the aisle. He chose not to.
They would have had the votes if the democrats doing the voting would have voted to pass the bill to keep the government open. But they chose to vote "no", which they knew would deny 750,000 federal workers their paychecks.Well, no, they technically didn't. They knew they didn't have the votes to do that and decided not to do anything to gain the required votes. They actively chose not to keep the government open.
I know, it's hard to adult and compromise on things to get some of what you want, but that's how governments work. You gotta adult.
Not one Republican voted in a way that favored a shut down. They voted in favor of Biden’s already agreed to guidelines.I’ve been watching this with interest. I like the bit where one side wants to shut down the government to sack a load of government workers or cut medical benefits for the most needy and the other doesn’t.
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