The Sabbath is protected by law for all creation.

[k4c]

Well, we know the seventh day was blessed and declared holy at creation.

Genesis 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he ceased this work of creation.

We know that God commandmands creation to remember to keep it holy. The word remember is pointing us back to the time and day when God declared it holy.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The fact that He places the Sabbath within His Law tells us He is protecting it. The information within the fourth commandment itself tells us that it's for all creation, not just Jewish people.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male slave, nor your female slave, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

So who is the Sabbath protected for?

1. Sons and daughters.
2. Male and female slaves.
3. Working animales.
4. Strangers.

Every creature must keep the Sabbath holy. And yes, even Gentiles.

Isaiah 56:6 As for the Gentiles, the outsiders who join the people of the Lord and serve Him and love His name, and are His servants and don't desecrate the Sabbath, and have accepted his covenant and promises.

Acts 13:42 And as Paul and Barnabas were going out, the Gentiles kept begging that these things might be spoken to them the next Sabbath.

In other words, all creation.

Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

 

[ricker]

Well, we know the seventh day was blessed and declared holy at creation.

Genesis 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he ceased this work of creation.

We know that God commandmands creation to remember to keep it holy. The word remember is pointing us back to the time and day when God declared it holy.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The fact that He places the Sabbath within His Law tells us He is protecting it. The information within the fourth commandment itself tells us that it's for all creation, not just Jewish people.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male slave, nor your female slave, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

So who is the Sabbath protected for?

1. Sons and daughters.
2. Male and female slaves.
3. Working animales.
4. Strangers.

Every creature must keep the Sabbath holy. And yes, even Gentiles.

Isaiah 56:6 As for the Gentiles, the outsiders who join the people of the Lord and serve Him and love His name, and are His servants and don't desecrate the Sabbath, and have accepted his covenant and promises.

Acts 13:42 And as Paul and Barnabas were going out, the Gentiles kept begging that these things might be spoken to them the next Sabbath.

In other words, all creation.

Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

OK. weekly Sabbath observance was instituted in Eden. Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath before sin. All creation was since the beginning of time was required to rest on the Sabbath. Angels are required to observe the Sabbath. Then in Exodus 31 God says, "16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever"

Nice exclusive sign and covenant God gives to the Israelites, since everyone else is supposed to follow it, too, and the observance has existed since creation.

There is a definite lack of evidence of any weekly Sabbath observance before Exodus 16. Exodus 31 makes a lot more sense when you realize this.

 

[Joe67]

Well, we know the seventh day was blessed and declared holy at creation.

Genesis 2:3 God blessed the seventh day and declared it holy, because it was the day when he ceased this work of creation.

We know that God commandmands creation to remember to keep it holy. The word remember is pointing us back to the time and day when God declared it holy.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The fact that He places the Sabbath within His Law tells us He is protecting it. The information within the fourth commandment itself tells us that it's for all creation, not just Jewish people.

Exodus 20:8-11 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male slave, nor your female slave, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

So who is the Sabbath protected for?

1. Sons and daughters.
2. Male and female slaves.
3. Working animales.
4. Strangers.

Every creature must keep the Sabbath holy. And yes, even Gentiles.

Isaiah 56:6 As for the Gentiles, the outsiders who join the people of the Lord and serve Him and love His name, and are His servants and don't desecrate the Sabbath, and have accepted his covenant and promises.

Acts 13:42 And as Paul and Barnabas were going out, the Gentiles kept begging that these things might be spoken to them the next Sabbath.

In other words, all creation.

Romans 2:13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

k4c,

The law is holy, just and good and is the instrument that the Lord has provided to stir up the sin within us so that sin can bring about the necessary death in our hearts and minds to prepare us for the resurrection of our inward parts in giving us of the mind of Christ, and thereby becoming a new creature in our inward man.

Resurrection is brought about through the Voice of the Son of the Lord God which speaks to us through the faith of the resurrected Son of God, Jesus of Nazareth, who is now at the right hand of the Father in the new Jerusalem which is above.

The speaking of the law precedes the speaking of resurrection. Thus law leads to the inward death of the old man and its desires of the flesh and the mind, which leads to the hearing of the Voice of the resurrected Son of God which brings resurrection/faith to us.

Rom 4:25
25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification. KJV

We must need be partakers of Jesus' death in our spiritual heart and mind, to be a partaker of his resurrection/holiness in our inward man.

Rom 6:5
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: KJV

Joe

 

[k4c]

ricker;Nice exclusive sign and covenant God gives to the Israelites, since everyone else is supposed to follow it, too, and the observance has existed since creation.

The seventh day was bless and declared holy at creation. The seventh day was prtected by Law in the fourth commandments. God then takes that blessed and holy day, which was protected by Law for all creation and uses it as a sign of a covenant. This sign does not make void all the prior facts.

There is a definite lack of evidence of any weekly Sabbath observance before Exodus 16. Exodus 31 makes a lot more sense when you realize this.

Remember, the reason Ten Commandments were written in stone was to point out the fact that they were not keeping God's Law. We know this because it says they were given becuase of transgression. We run into dangerous grounds when we try to establish our faith based on what man did prior to the Ten Commandments since man's heart was evil continually.

 

[ricker]

=k4c;57070584]The seventh day was bless and declared holy at creation. The seventh day was prtected by Law in the fourth commandments. God then takes that blessed and holy day, which was protected by Law for all creation and uses it as a sign of a covenant. This sign does not make void all the prior facts.

The explanation that the Sabbath was a sign and covenant was given before the Israelites were given the tablets acording to Exodus 31. The first mention of a weekly Sabbath is in Exodus 16 in the context of Israel and doesn't mention all creation.

Remember, the reason Ten Commandments were written in stone was to point out the fact that they were not keeping God's Law. We know this because it says they were given becuase of transgression. We run into dangerous grounds when we try to establish our faith based on what man did prior to the Ten Commandments since man's heart was evil continually.

I think man's heart is still evil contiually.

Did all the laws given at Sinai exist before they were given to the Israelites? Maybe there were some new ones slipped in there?

 

[k4c]

ricker;The explanation that the Sabbath was a sign and covenant was given before the Israelites were given the tablets acording to Exodus 31. The first mention of a weekly Sabbath is in Exodus 16 in the context of Israel and doesn't mention all creation.

God chose Israel to represent Him and His ways to the world.

Exodus 19:5-6 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Right after God said this He gave the standard (the Ten Commandments) by which these people could become His holy nation.

This is carried over to the new covenant.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.

I think man's heart is still evil contiually.

That's why we need God's stanard and His Spirit to empower us.

Did all the laws given at Sinai exist before they were given to the Israelites? Maybe there were some new ones slipped in there?

Remeber, the Law was given because of transgression. This means man was violating these principles before God wrote them in stone.

 

[ricker]

Remeber, the Law was given because of transgression. This means man was violating these principles before God wrote them in stone.

So the Feast of Tabernacles, and the unclean sore rules, and unclean womens' issues, and the setting aside of the fields every 7 years, etc., were all God's laws before Sinai?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

So the Feast of Tabernacles, and the unclean sore rules, and unclean womens' issues, and the setting aside of the fields every 7 years, etc., were all God's laws before Sinai?

Nope, just the principles of the decalogue...

 

[ricker]

Nope, just the principles of the decalogue...

Thanks. Why do you believe this?

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Thanks. Why do you believe this?

I could post Genesis 2:2 and think that that verse will convince you of what I believe but I'm sure it won't.

There are two other things I have besides the logical link of the Sabbath commandment and the the creation story. One is faith... faith allows me to be able to see how the character of God is reflected in the decalogue and how the precepts of these Laws were always there.
The other blessing for me is the inspired word through Ellen White... she, very plainly, has shown this link of God's Law and His Character.

 

[k4c]

So the Feast of Tabernacles, and the unclean sore rules, and unclean womens' issues, and the setting aside of the fields every 7 years, etc., were all God's laws before Sinai?

The Law (Ten Commandments) identifies sin. The shadows, which include, cerimonial foods, drinks, festivals, new moons or sabbaths, do not. The shadows came as a result of sin of which Jesus fullfilled. Now keep in mind, there were many different days called sabbaths all throughout the OT which were instititude as a result of sin. The holiness and blessedness of the seventh day of creation is not part of the shadows nor was it called holy as a result of sin.

How long are you guys going to continue rejecting the fact that all the Ten Commandments are confirmed in the new covenant? Either you've hardened your heart to truth or God is sending strong delusion.

Please...Please read the following and let God speak to you through His word.

Matthew 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve."

Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.''

The New Covenant teaches us a principle that God is the only one to be worshiped.

1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make yourselves any idols neither shall you worship them.

The New Covenant teaches us to keep ourselves from idols.

Luke 1:49 because the Powerful One has done great things for me. His name is holy.

Exodus 20:7 "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

The New Covenant teaches us that God's Name is holy.

Mark 2:28 "Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."

The New Covenant says Jesus is Lord of THE Sabbath. The word (THE) is referring to a specific amount of holy time identified in the fourth commandment as the Sabbath day.

Matthew 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.''

Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The New Covenant teaches us that doing good during that specific holy time called, the Sabbath, is not a violation of it.

Ephesians 6:1-2 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. "Honor your father and mother,'' which is the first commandment with promise: "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.''

The New Covenant tells us to honor our mother and father and in doing so we have a promise. That promise was established in the fifth commandment.

1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters.

Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder."

The New Covenant tells us not to be a murder confirming the sixth commandment.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery".

The New Covenant tells us not to commit adultery.

1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters.

Exodus 20:15 "You shall not steal".

The New Covenant tells us not to steal.

Ephesians 4:25 Therefore, putting away lying, each one speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another.

Exodus 20:16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

The New Covenant tells us not to lie.

Luke 12:15 And He said to them, "Take heed and beware of covetousness.

Exodus 20:17 "You shall not covet".

The New Covenant tells us not to covet.

 

[ricker]

The Law (Ten Commandments) identifies sin. The shadows, which include, cerimonial foods, drinks, festivals, new moons or sabbaths, do not. The shadows came as a result of sin of which Jesus fullfilled. Now keep in mind, there were many different days called sabbaths all throughout the OT which were instititude as a result of sin. The holiness and blessedness of the seventh day of creation is not part of the shadows nor was it called holy as a result of sin.

How long are you guys going to continue rejecting the fact that all the Ten Commandments are confirmed in the new covenant? Either you've hardened your heart to truth or God is sending strong delusion.

Please...Please read the following and let God speak to you through His word.

Matthew 4:10 Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, `You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve."

Exodus 20:3 "You shall have no other gods before Me.''

The New Covenant teaches us a principle that God is the only one to be worshiped.

1 John 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make yourselves any idols neither shall you worship them.

The New Covenant teaches us to keep ourselves from idols.

Luke 1:49 because the Powerful One has done great things for me. His name is holy.

Exodus 20:7 "You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

The New Covenant teaches us that God's Name is holy.

Mark 2:28 "Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."

The New Covenant says Jesus is Lord of THE Sabbath. The word (THE) is referring to a specific amount of holy time identified in the fourth commandment as the Sabbath day.

Matthew 12:12 "Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.''

Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The New Covenant teaches us that doing good during that specific holy time called, the Sabbath, is not a violation of it.

Ephesians 6:1-2 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. "Honor your father and mother,'' which is the first commandment with promise: "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth."

Exodus 20:12 "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.''

The New Covenant tells us to honor our mother and father and in doing so we have a promise. That promise was established in the fifth commandment.

1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters.

Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder."

The New Covenant tells us not to be a murder confirming the sixth commandment.

Hebrews 13:4 Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery".

The New Covenant tells us not to commit adultery.

1 Peter 4:15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people's matters.

Exodus 20:15 "You shall not steal".

The New Covenant tells us not to steal.

Ephesians 4:25 Therefore, putting away lying, each one speak truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another.

Exodus 20:16 "You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

The New Covenant tells us not to lie.

Luke 12:15 And He said to them, "Take heed and beware of covetousness.

Exodus 20:17 "You shall not covet".

The New Covenant tells us not to covet.

I still say one of the ten is the ceremonial sign of the Sabbath given exclusively to the Israelites, but I know you disagree so I digress. God bless you in your Sabbath keeping!

 

[Pythons]

I still say one of the ten is the ceremonial sign of the Sabbath given exclusively to the Israelites, but I know you disagree so I digress. God bless you in your Sabbath keeping!

I would say that the Sabbath commandment is a moral or natural Commandment...
...Simply because it's human nature to set aside some time for the worship of god's.
...As proven in the history of all cultures.

The statutes or ordinances of HOW and WHEN to properly observe the Sabbath are absolutely "ceremonial"....
...There was a commandment to honor the Sabbath day.
...Followed by the statutes and ordinances of when and how to observe the Sabbath.

 

[k4c]

I still say one of the ten is the ceremonial sign of the Sabbath given exclusively to the Israelites, but I know you disagree so I digress. God bless you in your Sabbath keeping!

The death penalty was required for violating the fourth commandment. The seventh day was called holy at creation, protected by law and then it was used as a sign. If you take away the covenant you still have the Law. Take away the Law and you still have creation.

 

[ricker]

I would say that the Sabbath commandment is a moral or natural Commandment...
...Simply because it's human nature to set aside some time for the worship of god's.
...As proven in the history of all cultures.

The statutes or ordinances of HOW and WHEN to properly observe the Sabbath are absolutely "ceremonial"....
...There was a commandment to honor the Sabbath day.
...Followed by the statutes and ordinances of when and how to observe the Sabbath.

I guess I can see your point of view.

According to Exodus 31, however, the fact that the Sabbath was given as a sign and covenant to Israel was explained to them before they recieved the tablets that the ten were written on.

 

[ricker]

The death penalty was required for violating the fourth commandment. The seventh day was called holy at creation, protected by law and then it was used as a sign. If you take away the covenant you still have the Law. Take away the Law and you still have creation.

So your whole theory rests on your unbiblical assumption that weekly sabbath observance started at creation.

 

[k4c]

So your whole theory rests on your unbiblical assumption that weekly sabbath observance started at creation.

The seventh day was blessed and called holy at creation. Whether people kept it holy after the fall has no baren on the fact that the day is holy. Now that the day has been protected and clearly defined by law God's people can enjoy it without being forced to work by pagans without them having to give an account to God. The day is a blessed day for those who believe and love God. For those who don't believe or love God, it's just another day.

 

[ricker]

The seventh day was blessed and called holy at creation. Whether people kept it holy after the fall has no baren on the fact that the day is holy. Now that the day has been protected and clearly defined by law God's people can enjoy it without being forced to work by pagans without them having to give an account to God. The day is a blessed day for those who believe and love God. For those who don't believe or love God, it's just another day.

Did God bless a day or a weekly observance at creation?

 

[k4c]

Did God bless a day or a weekly observance at creation?

God made the seventh day a holy day at its creation. God tells us to remember the seventh day to keep it holy. The words, remember the seventh day to keep it holy, points us back to the creation of the seventh day and reveals God's original will for man. What part of this don't you understand?

 

[Kira Light]

Did God bless a day or a weekly observance at creation?

God went straight back to work right at sunset on the first Saturday.