The Resurrection

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The Hour shall come as it is now, when the Dead shall hear the Voice of the Son of Alohym, and those who hear shall live.

Yeshua who professed that he was The Son of Adam (Seth), further declared that he was the Resurrection, and revealed that John (who was born on Shavuot/Pentecost) was the Aliyahu (Elijah) whom we were to expect to come before the Great and Dreadful Day, to turn the hearts of the (Resurrected) Forefathers towards the hearts of their (Resurrected) Children, and vis-versa, or else the earth (which Yahuah has promised to never curse again on behalf of mankind), will be struck with a Curse.

Yeshua also indicated that John was Greater than himself, when he declared John to be the Greatest person Born of a Woman among the Risen, further implying that John was Adam, the Father of the Son of Adam:

Nevertheless the Resurrection sets the stage for Judgement, John (scarcely) turned the hearts of the children towards the two primary Forefathers (Adam & Seth, with Peter being Enos, the third), for John knew that if he revealed his true identity, they would no longer have a cloak for their sin, and he knew they were not prepared to Believe, and subsequently their disbelief would have brought judgement upon them;

Likewise, Yeshua pleaded with the Father to Forgive the Children, because they (like Children) had no idea what they were actually doing, wherefore Judgement (and the subsequent Resurrection) was postponed for Enos (Mankind), who were but Babes, until they were of age, as their primary Forefathers which qualified to pay the debt of Mankind;

Wherefore ‘Adam’ (Mankind) and the ‘Son of Adam’ (Mankind) Stood in the stead of a Condemned ‘Mankind’ (Enos), consequently, when the Head of John/Adam was Cut Off, Yeshua the Head of Manknd was Crucified, but not before he bequeathed the office of the Chief Shepherd unto Peter, when he emphatically Commissioned him to Feed his Sheep.

My question is this, how will the children of the Resurrection know that they have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection and Judgement?

The children of the first advent did not know that they had been raised from the dead to receive judgement, how will we know, or better yet, what are some of the signs that we may keep an eye out for?

If one truly believes that we are in the eleventh to twelfth hour of the last days, then they should also realize, that would imply we have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection, what evidence do we have to corroborate that?
 

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The Hour shall come as it is now, when the Dead shall hear the Voice of the Son of Alohym, and those who hear shall live.

Yeshua who professed that he was The Son of Adam (Seth), further declared that he was the Resurrection, and revealed that John (who was born on Shavuot/Pentecost) was the Aliyahu (Elijah) whom we were to expect to come before the Great and Dreadful Day, to turn the hearts of the (Resurrected) Forefathers towards the hearts of their (Resurrected) Children, and vis-versa, or else the earth (which Yahuah has promised to never curse again on behalf of mankind), will be struck with a Curse.

Yeshua also indicated that John was Greater than himself, when he declared John to be the Greatest person Born of a Woman among the Risen, further implying that John was Adam, the Father of the Son of Adam:

Nevertheless the Resurrection sets the stage for Judgement, John (scarcely) turned the hearts of the children towards the two primary Forefathers (Adam & Seth, with Peter being Enos, the third), for John knew that if he revealed his true identity, they would no longer have a cloak for their sin, and he knew they were not prepared to Believe, and subsequently their disbelief would have brought judgement upon them;

Likewise, Yeshua pleaded with the Father to Forgive the Children, because they (like Children) had no idea what they were actually doing, wherefore Judgement (and the subsequent Resurrection) was postponed for Enos (Mankind), who were but Babes, until they were of age, as their primary Forefathers which qualified to pay the debt of Mankind;

Wherefore ‘Adam’ (Mankind) and the ‘Son of Adam’ (Mankind) Stood in the stead of a Condemned ‘Mankind’ (Enos), consequently, when the Head of John/Adam was Cut Off, Yeshua the Head of Manknd was Crucified, but not before he bequeathed the office of the Chief Shepherd unto Peter, when he emphatically Commissioned him to Feed his Sheep.

My question is this, how will the children of the Resurrection know that they have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection and Judgement?

The children of the first advent did not know that they had been raised from the dead to receive judgement, how will we know, or better yet, what are some of the signs that we may keep an eye out for?

If one truly believes that we are in the eleventh to twelfth hour of the last days, then they should also realize, that would imply we have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection, what evidence do we have to corroborate that?
A small token would be the image and Superscription of a Penny……Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give unto Abvraham what belongs to Abvraham.

In the parable of the vineyard the initial laborers hired to Work in the Vineyard agreed to Work for a Penny, but everyone after that agreed to that which is Righteous, wherefore only those who agreed to Work for a Penny were discontent when the time came to receive their reward, nevertheless Yeshua equated the Penny to that which is Righteous.

Who is the Righteous person Raised from the East? You who pursue Righteousness you who seek Yahuah, look to your Father Abvraham….I Called him alone….to be the Heir of the World.

Thus the First person Called to Work in the Vineyard is the Last person Called to Work in the Vineyard.

Today’s Penny bares the image of (a Law giver and a Civil Liberator who spoke with a lisp called) Abvraham.
 
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When Heaven asks, How come the Harvest has Come, and no one is Saved? Heaven is indicating that the End of the World has arrived in a dispensation which the earth’s inhabitants either do not know or are standing in disbelief of the matter, this would also indicate that among the standing Faiths, there shall not be one organization that has got it (sufficiently) right in that dispensation.
 
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The Congregation of Philadelphia appears to be the Resurrected Congregants of Smyrna which Received their Crown of Life for being Faithful unto Death, now if that same Crown proves to be the Crown of Glory (that does not Fade Away), then that would indicate that the Angel of Philadelphia is the Chief Shepherd whom Peter spoke of, and whom the prophet Yeshayahu prophesied of, and that he is the one whom we are to expect to come and sweep away the refuge of lies propagated by the Crown of Pride which rests upon the heads of the שמן גאי (Shaman Goiy). [ref., Yeshayahu 28].
 
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The Hour shall come as it is now, when the Dead shall hear the Voice of the Son of Alohym, and those who hear shall live.

Yeshua who professed that he was The Son of Adam (Seth), further declared that he was the Resurrection, and revealed that John (who was born on Shavuot/Pentecost) was the Aliyahu (Elijah) whom we were to expect to come before the Great and Dreadful Day, to turn the hearts of the (Resurrected) Forefathers towards the hearts of their (Resurrected) Children, and vis-versa, or else the earth (which Yahuah has promised to never curse again on behalf of mankind), will be struck with a Curse.

Yeshua also indicated that John was Greater than himself, when he declared John to be the Greatest person Born of a Woman among the Risen, further implying that John was Adam, the Father of the Son of Adam:

Nevertheless the Resurrection sets the stage for Judgement, John (scarcely) turned the hearts of the children towards the two primary Forefathers (Adam & Seth, with Peter being Enos, the third), for John knew that if he revealed his true identity, they would no longer have a cloak for their sin, and he knew they were not prepared to Believe, and subsequently their disbelief would have brought judgement upon them;

Likewise, Yeshua pleaded with the Father to Forgive the Children, because they (like Children) had no idea what they were actually doing, wherefore Judgement (and the subsequent Resurrection) was postponed for Enos (Mankind), who were but Babes, until they were of age, as their primary Forefathers which qualified to pay the debt of Mankind;

Wherefore ‘Adam’ (Mankind) and the ‘Son of Adam’ (Mankind) Stood in the stead of a Condemned ‘Mankind’ (Enos), consequently, when the Head of John/Adam was Cut Off, Yeshua the Head of Manknd was Crucified, but not before he bequeathed the office of the Chief Shepherd unto Peter, when he emphatically Commissioned him to Feed his Sheep.

My question is this, how will the children of the Resurrection know that they have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection and Judgement?

The children of the first advent did not know that they had been raised from the dead to receive judgement, how will we know, or better yet, what are some of the signs that we may keep an eye out for?

If one truly believes that we are in the eleventh to twelfth hour of the last days, then they should also realize, that would imply we have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection, what evidence do we have to corroborate that?
We are told in 1 Cor 15:42-44 that we shall receive a spiritual body and immortality at the resurrection. The way I see it, no one who made it into immortality will need to be reminded he's in a different realm. Concerning judgment, the wicked will not rise with the faithful but remain in the grave until the millennium kingdom ends. Then they will arise at the GWTJ to be judged (Rev 20:11-15).

The faithful on the other hand, will not be judged. Here's what the Lord said: John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

"that would imply we have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection..." the question is a bit unclear because there's no such thing as "the dispensation of the Resurrection". Given your reference to the eleventh and the twelfth hour, I suppose you are alluding to the end of the age. If this is the case, then the proper phrase should be the return of our Messiah in glory, knowing that the resurrection of the saints' is tied to His return.
 
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The Congregation of Philadelphia appears to be the Resurrected Congregants of Smyrna which Received their Crown of Life for being Faithful unto Death, now if that same Crown proves to be the Crown of Glory (that does not Fade Away), then that would indicate that the Angel of Philadelphia is the Chief Shepherd whom Peter spoke of, and whom the prophet Yeshayahu prophesied of, and that he is the one whom we are to expect to come and sweep away the refuge of lies propagated by the Crown of Pride which rests upon the heads of the שמן גאי (Shaman Goiy). [ref., Yeshayahu 28].
There's no evidence that the church in Philadelphia or any of the four churches addressed in the letters were resurrected. They (Philadelphia) were still in the flesh when the Lord exhorted them for their faith and trust in Him.
 
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My question is this, how will the children of the Resurrection know that they have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection and Judgement?
Yes, I firmly believe they will know, because of the resurrection itself will be massive, the innumerable volume of the King's Army to escort, the trip to the Wedding feast, the reading of the Book of Life and the Book of the Dead, and so much more.
 
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We are told in 1 Cor 15:42-44 that we shall receive a spiritual body and immortality at the resurrection. The way I see it, no one who made it into immortality will need to be reminded he's in a different realm. Concerning judgment, the wicked will not rise with the faithful but remain in the grave until the millennium kingdom ends. Then they will arise at the GWTJ to be judged (Rev 20:11-15).

The faithful on the other hand, will not be judged. Here's what the Lord said: John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

"that would imply we have entered the dispensation of the Resurrection..." the question is a bit unclear because there's no such thing as "the dispensation of the Resurrection". Given your reference to the eleventh and the twelfth hour, I suppose you are alluding to the end of the age. If this is the case, then the proper phrase should be the return of our Messiah in glory, knowing that the resurrection of the saints' is tied to His return.
Manifestation begins with a Conception, without which there shall be no manifestation.

Perspective is what primarily distinguishes the two realms of which you speak of, case and point, in Deuteronomy 4, is Alohym instructing the children of Ishrael to inquire from One Side of Heaven unto the Other, or is he instructing us to go from One Side of Earth unto the other?

The Babylonish perspective of what Yah is saying, is to go from one side of earth unto the other, whereas Alohym did not stutter when he said, שמים

The prophet Yeshayahu says, ..,,they will not See, yet they shall see…, to reiterate the fact that someone is Blind to the truth of a matter.

Yeshua indicated, those which did not see the Father and which did not have His Word Abiding in and among them, is because they did not Believe, namely the one whom Heaven had Sent, thus they saw and heard, but because of disbelief they did not see and hear.

In the second Advent, do you suppose Aliyahu will come out the womb blowing his trumpet? Of course not, yet of all who are Risen and born of a woman, none shall be greater than he, notwithstanding the transformation which you touch upon shall not occur until he blows that trump.

When it says, …the wicked shall not Rise with the faithful, but shall remain in the grave…., it is referring to the wicked not being Awakened from their sleep and Raptured (Caught Up and Carried Away) by the preaching of Aliyahu.

Otherwise Comprehending and Trusting upon Yeshua cannot occur until he that is whole comes and sweeps away the refuge of lies that prevents one from comprehending and trusting and relying on Yeshua and his words.
 
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There's no evidence that the church in Philadelphia or any of the four churches addressed in the letters were resurrected. They (Philadelphia) were still in the flesh when the Lord exhorted them for their faith and trust in Him.
The book of revelation is a Prophecy, meaning it is referring to things to come.

This prophecy is also a parable, meaning it has a Natural occurrence and a Spiritual occurrence.

The Crown of Life promised to those who are faithful unto Death, is not received by many until after they have died, and the Crown which the congregants of Philadelphia have attained unto is the Crown of Life which they are only required to Retain to receive a Permanent status in the Temple of Alohym.
 
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Yes, I firmly believe they will know, because of the resurrection itself will be massive, the innumerable volume of the King's Army to escort, the trip to the Wedding feast, the reading of the Book of Life and the Book of the Dead, and so much more.
First comes the Resurrection of those who are born among the living dead, then comes the Awakening and we rise from our slumber.
 
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Manifestation begins with a Conception, without which there shall be no manifestation.

Perspective is what primarily distinguishes the two realms of which you speak of, case and point, in Deuteronomy 4, is Alohym instructing the children of Ishrael to inquire from One Side of Heaven unto the Other, or is he instructing us to go from One Side of Earth unto the other?

The Babylonish perspective of what Yah is saying, is to go from one side of earth unto the other, whereas Alohym did not stutter when he said, שמים

The prophet Yeshayahu says, ..,,they will not See, yet they shall see…, to reiterate the fact that someone is Blind to the truth of a matter.

Yeshua indicated, those which did not see the Father and which did not have His Word Abiding in and among them, is because they did not Believe, namely the one whom Heaven had Sent, thus they saw and heard, but because of disbelief they did not see and hear.

In the second Advent, do you suppose Aliyahu will come out the womb blowing his trumpet? Of course not, yet of all who are Risen and born of a woman, none shall be greater than he, notwithstanding the transformation which you touch upon shall not occur until he blows that trump.

When it says, …the wicked shall not Rise with the faithful, but shall remain in the grave…., it is referring to the wicked not being Awakened from their sleep and Raptured (Caught Up and Carried Away) by the preaching of Aliyahu.

Otherwise Comprehending and Trusting upon Yeshua cannot occur until he that is whole comes and sweeps away the refuge of lies that prevents one from comprehending and trusting and relying on Yeshua and his words.
I am a student of the late Derek Prince and he taught that the cornerstone of effective teaching is keeping it simple - using a language that even the unlearned will understand. I am an educated Englishman, yet I struggle to understand you most of the time because of your propensity for a language and writing style that is best suited to poetry. If you can learn to write in simple prose, you'll be more effective than your present style which is lost on your readers. We are here to search the scriptures, learn and build each other up; there are no prizes given for scholarship and proficiency in writing. If the apostle Paul wrote in poetry as you do, the church would have been in trouble as very few would understand him.

You mentioned Deut 4: when you make a citation, try to provide the chapter and verse so your readers don't have to second-guess the passage you're referring to.

That said, I don't think your remarks addressed the points I raised in response to your query from last week. The point I addressed from your last post is whether those who resurrect to eternal life will recognise they are in a different realm. I used 1 Cor 15:42-44 as my answer. I don't want to pull out my grey hair trying to figure out what you are on about given your preference to an academic and nebulous way of addressing a simple concept.

Remain blessed.
 
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The book of revelation is a Prophecy, meaning it is referring to things to come.

This prophecy is also a parable, meaning it has a Natural occurrence and a Spiritual occurrence.

The Crown of Life promised to those who are faithful unto Death, is not received by many until after they have died, and the Crown which the congregants of Philadelphia have attained unto is the Crown of Life which they are only required to Retain to receive a Permanent status in the Temple of Alohym.
I concur with the above. However, I am at a loss whether you agreed with me in post #6 or not.
 
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I am a student of the late Derek Prince and he taught that the cornerstone of effective teaching is keeping it simple - using a language that even the unlearned will understand. I am an educated Englishman, yet I struggle to understand you most of the time because of your propensity for a language and writing style that is best suited to poetry. If you can learn to write in simple prose, you'll be more effective than your present style which is lost on your readers. We are here to search the scriptures, learn and build each other up; there are no prizes given for scholarship and proficiency in writing. If the apostle Paul wrote in poetry as you do, the church would have been in trouble as very few would understand him.

You mentioned Deut 4: when you make a citation, try to provide the chapter and verse so your readers don't have to second-guess the passage you're referring to.

That said, I don't think your remarks addressed the points I raised in response to your query from last week. The point I addressed from your last post is whether those who resurrect to eternal life will recognise they are in a different realm. I used 1 Cor 15:42-44 as my answer. I don't want to pull out my grey hair trying to figure out what you are on about given your preference to an academic and nebulous way of addressing a simple concept.

Remain blessed.

I as born unto L(awrence) E(dward) E(llison) & L(aurrlee) E(llen) E(vans), as you can see, their names each depict a Laurel (tree) planted in a LEE [a Meadow (lit., grass growing beside a course of water, for fodder)]

The name bestowed upon me at birth is Steven [lit., a Crown], wherefore I am אזרח ‘a Natural Born’ תהילה ‘Laureate’ [Crown woven of sprigs of Laurel], who was born no less on Shavuot/Pentecost.

I agree, we should strive to keep our conveyance as simple as possible, and such was my attempt, as I only aimed to address your response, I’ll just have to work harder on my simplifying of complexed matters.

Poetry and Prophecy is the Fruit of a Laureate [aka עטרת תהילה Crown of Glory], this is not Burger King, KFC or Pizza Hut, wherefore you now know what to expect of me, and what not to expect of me, Shalom.
 
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Yes, I firmly believe they will know, because of the resurrection itself will be massive, the innumerable volume of the King's Army to escort, the trip to the Wedding feast, the reading of the Book of Life and the Book of the Dead, and so much more.
No Doubt they shall come to Know, yet my question is, How shall they come to Know?

Do the scriptures lend a clue? I believe a great familiarity with the script will provide more than just a clue, let us continue to grow in the word.
 
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