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The Restitution Of All Things

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To bad! None of these guys you quote are scripture, "Rob. Bell,""Dusean Berkich,""Sherwood Michael,""Hans Urs von Balthasar-"

Here's some more 'unsupported opinion' der Alter, in the form of beautiful lyric.


Our chains are gone
Our debt is paid
The cross has overthrown the grave
For Jesus' blood that sets us free
Means death to death
And life for me.

Even these youngies know what happens when death is killed. LIFE REIGNS!
 
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Well thank you!

Well if nothing is impossible for him, that would simply mean he chooses to lose someone, and by his very nature to have been something that has always been to him, knowing the end from the beginning. As for me I suppose I wont know, because there will be no remberance of former things.

So guess I believe what John believed, behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.
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Sorry Scott, must have missed your reply. Do you think that no remembrance of former things is to be understood as having one's memory wiped? And if that's the case, will you still be you?
 
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Sorry Scott, must have missed your reply. Do you think that no remembrance of former things is to be understood as having one's memory wiped? And if that's the case, will you still be you?

I think it's living in how God sees ...
 
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"Well if nothing is impossible for him, that would simply mean he chooses to lose someone, and by his very nature to have been something that has always been to him, knowing the end from the beginning. As for me I suppose I wont know, because there will be no remberance of former things.

So guess I believe what John believed, behold the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world."

Hi there Scott & welcome to a link that presents hope in a world of sinking hopelessness.

The Lamb of God loses nothing.

He is the One with "un" before the word limited.

The apostle John declares the Lamb takes away the sin of the world, not some of the world, the whole ungodly world. His at-one-ment encompasses the radical all of pas.

"He is the at-one-ment for our sins"

AND

"not our sins ONLY"

BUT

"the sins of the whole world."
 
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His Angel's shall bare thee up ... and I saw them standing on a sea of glass mingled with fire ...

He spreads out the sky strong as a molten looking-glass. The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its hills stand out like the folds of a garment.
 
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A whole book in one verse ...
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 
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Here's some more 'unsupported opinion' der Alter, in the form of beautiful lyric.
Our chains are gone
Our debt is paid
The cross has overthrown the grave
For Jesus' blood that sets us free
Means death to death
And life for me.
Even these youngies know what happens when death is killed. LIFE REIGNS!
Unfortunately hymns are not scripture and sometimes express bad theology.
 
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Unfortunately hymns are not scripture and sometimes express bad theology.

Do you find it interesting that many songs and hymns redolent with universalist spirit come out of damnationist denoms?

They seem to conveniently forget the destination of the many when they applaud the great love of God. Bit of a fly in the ointment, though ain't it?
 
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Nuts for Calvinists to crack

“Although a Calvinist myself for more than thirty years, the scriptures declaring God’s infinite love, and the plain teachings of Jesus my Lord on the subject of love, mercy and truth, finally sank my theological ship. This left me searching for the truth as it is in Jesus. Finally I was convinced by the overwhelming number of Scriptures that our great God and Heavenly Father truly does, without partiality, love the whole world, and He will in His own time and in His own way finally reconcile all men unto Himself.

Arminianism and Calvinism both represent each other as the method for God’s work in salvation, and both vigorously reject the final reconciliation of all men. -C.R. Bierbower

The Purpose Of God

The Purpose Of God, by Vladimir Gelesnoff

“The current Evangelical Theology involves in its system belief in the deathlessness of sin, the indestructibility of error, and permanence of evil. That though there was a time in the history of the universe when sin in any shape or form did not exist, when no cry of pain or sense of guilt darkened the all-extensive bliss and holiness of creation, yet since sin has once effected an entrance into such a scene, it has come in never to go out again, indestructible, unconquerable, ineradicable, endless. Absolute happiness and sinlessness have forever vanished like the phantom of a dream. The ‘eternal state’ is a universe endlessly finding room for myriads of souls rolling and writhing in the burning agonies of ceaseless flame, eternally sinful, vile and morally hideous. It pictures the “final perfection” yet to be attained as having room for a vast cesspool of immoral and degraded beings, continually existing in opposition to God.”

~Vladimir Gelesnoff ~
 
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The Lord Jesus Christ, the Archegos & Prodromos, has a stacked deck. He not only undoes the fall of Adam, He does it with flair!

In Hebr. 9.14 His blood is posus mallon. In Rom. 11.24 the wild & natural olive branches are in the same posus mallon dimension.

Yes, and this majestic Prince-Leader of Reconciliation not only undoes the despair of Adam, He does it posus mallon!

Mallon =

More.

To a greater degree by far.

John Gavazzoni

Index Of Writings Of John Gavazzoni
 
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To Destroy =

“The mission of Christ was to destroy the enemy and to set the prisoners free.

Now this word ‘destroy’ does not mean to annihilate. In the Greek it means to make of no effect.

When Christ took the keys from the prison keeper he, Satan, lost all power and authority. Christ made his office of no effect (Heb. 2:14 & 15).

While prophets of doom forecast calamity and destruction, the mind of Christ speaks and lights our world with the vision of universal restoration and reconciliation.

Paul told of a great victory where every knee would bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

Paul did not say that only a small number will bow and confess, but he said every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess. And no man can call Jesus Lord but by the Holy Spirit. What a glorious day that will be when every foot steps forth in the river of life up to the ankle, and from the ankle up to the knee.

Every knee shall bow!

We are not an accident!

We are not a mistake!

No one has been overlooked by the Creator.

All of us are His jewels, the apple of His eye, His purpose, reason and will.

When we see God in all things, and realize that all things are in His hands for the eventual good of everyone, then our lives will flow as peacefully as a river.” -Don Bruce-
 
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The Second Death

Orthodox theology holds the second death to be a state of endless torment in which the sufferers are held forever in conscious being by a continuous act of Divine preservation, with the soul object of a punishment without end. This however would in no sense be death. The second death does not perpetuate the hopeless condition of the sinner to all eternity.

What the Holy Spirit means by ‘fire and brimstone’ is ‘divine purification,’ or a judgment fire which consumes all that is antagonistic to divine law and love.

Before the Great White Throne, that vast throng, their naked spirits conscious now of the blazing holiness of God, will be subjected to the process of the second death. What those processes are, their intensity and their duration, we are not told. They will suffice, however, not in themselves to perfect, but to bring those who suffer them to that agreement with the judgment upon sin which they effect, and through the cross finally to reconcile them to God (Col. 1:20), in a subjection where He will be ‘All in all.’ When that acquiescence in judgment upon sin is reached, and applied in soul and spirit, then will be possible the final victory over death. Hence it is written that when this subjection is reached, then and only then, ‘the last enemy, death, shall be destroyed.’ -A.E. Saxby-
 
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The Final Outcome =

“The crowning glory of the ‘good news’ or evangel of the untraceable riches of Christ which Paul was granted the grace to bring to the ‘gentiles’ or nations, is the revelation that He will reconcile all to God.

What a marvelous outcome of God’s purpose!

What a wonderful Christ Who can accomplish such a complete and glorious reconciliation! All creatures, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens, reconciled in perfect peace to the great love of God through the Son of His love.

More of these untraceable honors and glories of Christ which Paul was granted the grace to reveal, could be pointed out with delight, but these will suffice to increase our faith, enrich our joy and brighten our expectation ‘in Him in Whom our lot was cast also,’ Christ Jesus our Lord, Life, and Head!” -Adlai Loudy-

The Lord’s Changeless Ways

“It is argued that whatever be the meaning of the word aionios in the case of the lost, the same must be its meaning in the case of the saved; and our certainty of never-ending bliss for penitent believers is gone if the word bears not the same signification in the case of the impenitent and unbelieving. But the truth is that this word describes not the quantity or duration, but the quality of that which it is predicated.

The word which in Matt. 25:46 we translate punishment, in its primary sense means ‘pruning’ and is always used for corrective discipline which is for the improvement of him who suffers it.

Even those who hold the common view of the endlessness of punishment are obliged to confess this; and this of itself proves that their doctrine is untenable; for any punishment, be it for a longer or shorter time would not be corrective discipline, but quite another thing if it left those who were so corrected unimproved and lost forever. But from the fall till now the changeless way of the Lord is to make even the curse a blessing.” -Andrew Jukes
 
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