The real Total Annihilation Vs Starcraft!

[Noddingdog]

So, which one is better? Post your opinions!

 

[PuppyforChrist]

Starcraft rocks!

 

[Noddingdog]

My views later...

 

[Ajnin]

Starcraft Brood war. Nothing like you and your bud going 2 v. 6 against the pc.

 

[Aceldama]

I love TA! I've actually got a game running right now with the 5000 unit patch.

I havent yet experienced starcraft though.

 

[Noddingdog]

That unit patch is great!

 

[JesusServant]

Oh boy, you guys have me wanting to play TA again, it's been a lonnnng time. The game play is so much fun even though the graphics are old.

 

[Noddingdog]

Lol! Yes, TA did win over 50 awards, including The Greatest Game of All Time and it is a great game, even for it's age The best 3rd-party unit pack is TAUCP IMO.

 

[Sharky]

starcraft would probably be the winner in terms of story. Total annihialation is great too. The maps are just huuuuge!

But who cares. Warcraft 3 ft is already out

 

[RazorX]

StarCraft: Brood War! All the way!

 

[erichmess_]

Starcraft, hands down. Qaulity of units over quanity of units.

 

[Noddingdog]

Admittedly, Starcraft has a better story, but which proper RTS gamer cares about a story anyway? We just want to see stuff getting blown up, and that big "VICTORY!" word on our screen.

If quality of units discerns how good a game is, Total Annihilation would come out on top. In Starcraft, you have jerky sprites. In TA, you get 3D units, constructed of polygons, and moving smoothly across the screen - Kbots walk, planes fly, bank and barrel roll, vehicles move smoothly and ships, well, float. Planes in SC hover rather than fly. Buildings in TA leave debris, where as they just vanish in Starcraft. And as for the firing of the units, TA's weapons are affected by the wind, elevation and gravity of the landscape, whereas Starcraft's are not.
And what about projectiles? Non existent in Starcraft, with marines shooting things behind mountain walls, under tanks, behind barracks, etc. with no problem at all. In TA this can never happen, as everything uses projectiles to determine the flight path, whether or not something would hit, and then the damage from how close the explosion was. And units in SC can't fire while moving, whereas they automatically do this in TA. This can be turned off if necessary.

 

[erichmess_]

Perhaps you mis understood what I meant when I said "quality of units." You see, last time I played TA (which was, I confess, quite some time ago) even though you had tons of units, each side basicaly had the same units. They all did the same things. One side had a tank that did something cool, the other side had a tank that did something equally cool.

Not so in Starcraft. Each unit for each side was different, totally and utterly. From the most basic units to the highly advanced ones. Not two units had anything in comon. Each side had totally different structures with different capabilities.

Also, unlike TA (which I bet I couldn't go find in a store right now if I wanted to) Starcraft has withstood the test of time.

 

[Noddingdog]

There are many expansion packs, 3rd party units, mods, etc. all still underway and in progress, even right here in 2003, and there is still a very large community for TA, just look at Planetannihilation. Starcraft doesn't allow you to create 3rd party units Also, TA is still widely available. If someone wanted a copy of it they could easily get it from many a source.

I agree with your point that OTA* has essentially the same units for both sides, but when you start varying units you run into a balancing problem. Many of the custom 3rd-party expansion packs have entirely different units and are well balanced (e.g. TAUCP), and even in OTA you get lighting guns and paralysers for ARM and flamethrowers for CORE, a distinct difference. But many of Starcrafts units are addons for their buildings anyway, and the large ships such as Battlecruisers that are available are scaled wrongly. TA avoids this by not including massive destroyer ships and scaling them down

* = original TA

 

[RazorX]

*Ahem*
This was taken off of Blizzard.com
And if you don't believe me click here!

Greatest Game of All Time - GameSpot
Number-one selling PC Game of 1998 - PC Data
Game of the Year -- Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences (AIAS)
Game of the Year -- Computer Gaming World
Game of the Year -- European Consumer Trade Show Industry Award
Game of the Year -- PC Powerplay
Game of the Year -- Gamesmania
Best Game of the Year -- PCFan
Taiwan Gamer's Choice of Game of the Year. -- Chinese Edition of PC Gamer or PC Gamer (China)

Hall of Fame -- Gamespy

Strategy Game of the Year -- Computer Games Strategy Plus
Strategy Game of the Year -- Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences (AIAS)
Real Time Strategy Game of The Year -- PC Gamer
Strategy Game of the Year -- Gamespot
Strategy Game of the Year -- Games Domain
Strategy Game of the Year -- Gamesmania
Best Real Time Strategy Game - Editor's Choice -- Gamezilla
Best Real Time Strategy Game - Reader's Choice -- Gamezilla
Best Real Time Strategy Game - Reader's Choice -- Gamecenter
Best Real Time Strategy Game - Reader's Choice -- Duelist Magazine
Best Real-Time Strategy Title -- PCFan


Mulitplayer Game of The Year - 1999 Milia Awards
Multiplayer Game of the Year -- Gamecenter
Mulitplayer Game of The Year -- The Gamers Net
Best Multiplayer Title -- PCFan
Best New Multiplayer Online Game -- 1999 Codie Awards
Best use of Online Multiplayer Gaming (Editor Award) -- HotGames.com


Best Online Game - Reader's Choice -- Duelist Magazine
Special Achievement Award - Best Story -- Gamespot
Special Achievement Award - Best Multiplayer Game -- Gamespot
Best use of Sound in a Computer Game (Reader Award) -- HotGames.com
#1 Reader's Top 50 -- PC Gamer
Best Depth -- PC Accelerator


5 out of 5 Stars Editor's Choice-- Computer Gaming World
5 out of 5 Gameworthy Rating -- C/NET Gamecenter
9.4 out of 10 -- Online Game Review
92% Editors Choice -- PC Gamer
4.5 out of 5 star rating - Computer games Strategy Plus
5 out of 5 star rating - Mac 3D Total Action
9.1 out of 10 rating -- Gamespot
A+ -- Gameweek
4 out of 4 star rating - USA Today

 

[Noddingdog]

Ahem indeed...

TOTAL ANNIHILATION'S MANY GAMING AWARDS

• Best Game of All Time, PC Games 1998
• Gamer's Choice Award, Best Real-Time Strategy Game, PC Gamer
• 1998 Blister Award Winner, "Best Strategy Game of 1997", Electric Playground
• 1997 Game of the Year, GameSpot
• Best Strategy Game of 1997, GameSpot
• Best Multiplayer Game 1997, GameSpot
• Best Music 1997, GameSpot
• 1997 Game of the Year, GameSpot Reader's Choice Awards
• 1997 Best Strategy Game, GameSpot Reader's Choice Awards
• 1997 Best War Game, Happy Puppy's Golden Fire Hydrant Award
• 1997 Best Strategy Game, PC Guru Magazine, Hungary
• Best RTS Game, GAME.EXE Magazine, Russia 1998
• Best Game of the Year 1997, PC Soulces, France
• Silver Trophy Award, PC Magazine Loisirs, France
• Top Game Award for Five Consecutive Months, PC Jeux France
• Best RTS Game 1997, Reader's Choice Award, PC Gamer Online
• Best Real-Time Strategy Game 1997, Adrenaline Vault
• Best Strategy Game 1997, Reader's Award, Games Domain
• 1997 Game of the Year, CompuNews
• 1997 Best Sound/Music, GamePen
• Best Strategy Game of 1997, Gamezilla.com
• Game of the Year, Game Review Central
• Best Real-Time Strategy Game of 1997, Ultra Game Players Magazine
• CG Choice Award, Computer Gaming World, 1998
• Best of the Best A+ Award, PC Games 1998
• Family PC Tested-Recommended, Family PC 1998
• Stamp of Approval, Computer Games Strategy Plus
• Editor's Choice Award 1997, Online Gaming Review
• Special Achievement in Music 1997, Online Gaming Review
• Best Game of the Year 1997, Honorable Mention, Online Gaming Review
• Best Game of 1997, Reader's Knockout Poll Award, Games Domain Review
• Best PC Game of 1997, Video Games Palace
• Gaming Product of the Year 1997, MeccaWorld
• Best Strategy Game of 1997, Gamesmania
• Gold Player Top-Rated 5 Star Award, PC Games Germany
• Gold Award, PC Action Germany
• Top Rated 5 Star Award 1997, PC Gaming World UK
• Platin Award, PC Power
• Innovation in Gaming Award 1997, PC Review
• Editor's Choice Award, Game Worlds Network
• Editor's Choice Award, Gaming Age
• Editor's Choice Award 1997, All About Games
• Awesome! Award 1997, Game Briefs
• Killer Game Award 1997, The Cheater's Guild
• OGR Preferred Award, Online Gaming Review
• X-Picks Dazzler for 1997, Gamecenter
• Hot! 4 Star Award, GAMERZedge
• Hands-On Award, PC GamePro
• Editor's Pick Award 1997, GameSpot
• Buy Now! Award, San Francisco Guardian Plug & Play
• Star Player Award, Games Machine
• GamePower's 4-Lightning Bolt Award 1997
• GamePen's Best of E3 Award 1997
• Top 12 Games of Autumn, PC Games Europe
• Hot Property Award 1997, MeccaWorld

http://www.shonner.com/totalannihilation/awards.htm

We have more awards than you

 

[RazorX]

Fine! I'm not a sore loser, you win!
/me starts devising a way to overthrow the evil TA empire.

 

[Noddingdog]

/me feels that RazorX does not like TA...

 

[RazorX]

What makes you say that?

 

[Noddingdog]

Ah, one day you will learn the true power of TA over SC...