This is the real Nicene creed of 325 A.D. from the Council of Nicea
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth]; Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. And in the Holy Ghost. [But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]
The "Nicene Creed" that this Christian web site ascribe to is the one from the Council of Constantinople of 381 A.D. and the one from 381 A.D. is the one that is not supported totally by scripture even though this web site did list scriptural references to each line, but the scriptural references do not all match to support each line in that creed.
There is no scriptural support to worship the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, but there is scriptural reproofs for doing so.
The standard of judgment that is over every believer is to honour the Father by honouring the Son.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
That means the moment you stop honouring the Son, you are no longer honouring the Father in worship, in fellowship, nor in prayer.
The Holy Spirit is not mentioned because His job is to glorify Jesus Christ and thus those led by the Spirit of God will be doing the exact same thing.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Those led by the Spirit will not speak of the Holy Spirit to glorify the Holy Spirit, but to glorify Jesus Christ.
Therefore as we testify of the Lord Jesus Christ in ministry & in worship, it is by us agreeing with the Word of the Father & with the Holy Spirit in sharing like-minded testimony in seeking the glory of the Son.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
What we say in testimony is for the same purpose for what we say as led by the Spirit in worship: it has to be the same as per His Word for our witness to be true even in worship.
John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
This is how our individual witness is true when we testify of the Son as it is backed up by the testimony of the Holy Spirit's in according to His word.
That means when believers are worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, they are not led by the Word nor the Spirit of God to do that.
The mind of Christ we are to have is to exalt the name of Jesus above every other name which is to the glory of God the Father. That is the "obedience" Paul was talking about in Philippians 2:12 in context.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Now if you think this reproof is not important, then that lack of fear & trembling is the cause of it, meaning no reverential respect to His Word.
Believers need to narrow the way back to the straight gate before the Bridegroom comes because we cannot honour the "Trinity" in worship when God is only honoured & glorified in the Son for by Him is God the Father is glorified which is exactly what the Holy Spirit ( Whom is God ) is leading us to do.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.....7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Believers cannot honour nor glorify the Father in any other way in worship.
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father [the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father; By whom all things were made [both in heaven and on earth]; Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man; He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven; From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. And in the Holy Ghost. [But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.]
The "Nicene Creed" that this Christian web site ascribe to is the one from the Council of Constantinople of 381 A.D. and the one from 381 A.D. is the one that is not supported totally by scripture even though this web site did list scriptural references to each line, but the scriptural references do not all match to support each line in that creed.
There is no scriptural support to worship the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, but there is scriptural reproofs for doing so.
The standard of judgment that is over every believer is to honour the Father by honouring the Son.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
That means the moment you stop honouring the Son, you are no longer honouring the Father in worship, in fellowship, nor in prayer.
The Holy Spirit is not mentioned because His job is to glorify Jesus Christ and thus those led by the Spirit of God will be doing the exact same thing.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
Those led by the Spirit will not speak of the Holy Spirit to glorify the Holy Spirit, but to glorify Jesus Christ.
Therefore as we testify of the Lord Jesus Christ in ministry & in worship, it is by us agreeing with the Word of the Father & with the Holy Spirit in sharing like-minded testimony in seeking the glory of the Son.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.
What we say in testimony is for the same purpose for what we say as led by the Spirit in worship: it has to be the same as per His Word for our witness to be true even in worship.
John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
This is how our individual witness is true when we testify of the Son as it is backed up by the testimony of the Holy Spirit's in according to His word.
That means when believers are worshipping the Holy Spirit with the Father & the Son, they are not led by the Word nor the Spirit of God to do that.
The mind of Christ we are to have is to exalt the name of Jesus above every other name which is to the glory of God the Father. That is the "obedience" Paul was talking about in Philippians 2:12 in context.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Now if you think this reproof is not important, then that lack of fear & trembling is the cause of it, meaning no reverential respect to His Word.
Believers need to narrow the way back to the straight gate before the Bridegroom comes because we cannot honour the "Trinity" in worship when God is only honoured & glorified in the Son for by Him is God the Father is glorified which is exactly what the Holy Spirit ( Whom is God ) is leading us to do.
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.....7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Believers cannot honour nor glorify the Father in any other way in worship.
