The Real God, part 23

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It is obvious the main differences between Armimiasm and Predestination. Arminianism, which is based on the "Traditions of Men," teaches that God loves everybody, His love is unconditional, Jesus died for the sins of all people, and God "wants" to see every person "get saved." Predestination, which is based on Scripture alone, contradicts everything Arminianism teaches.
For those unaware of historical facts, the things Arminianism teaches do not come from Scripture; instead, the teaching started with a Dutch "theologian" named Jacobus Arminius, Oct 10, 1560-Oct 19, 1609. He was a "pastor" in the Dutch Reformed Church, which taught predestination. While he grew up as a man and when he taught in the pulpit, he believed in and taught predestination. But, at some point in time (I couldn't discover precisely when), he came to think that predestination was too "harsh," that predestination didn't "allow" any possibility for the exercise of human "free will." In opposition to Scripture and a "new doctrine" that contradicted Scripture, he developed, made up, and created the myth that God elects those who will "respond in faith to the divine offer of salvation." THIS IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE! THERE ARE NO VERSES THAT TEACH THIS! To teach "free will," salvation requires one to take away and add to Scripture. It means that verses have to be twisted.
You must understand that Arminius is the sole source of "free will" salvation! This was not a case where others were teaching the same thing, and he was influenced.
Predestination teaches God's sovereignty. Arminianism teaches salvation is based on man's "free will" and that each person is responsible for whether or not they "get saved." You can look at dozens of definitions describing Arminianism, and you will never read, "A theological system based on Scripture." You will always find a description that reads, "A theological system based on what Arminius taught." The idea of the prominence of man's "free will" and that man's "free will" was stronger than God's will began in the " Catholic church" and was first proposed by the "church" father Hippo sometime between 374-430 AD. Any time you see the phrase "church father," these are men who were the original leaders of the different "Churches," not "fathers of the faith." "Church Fathers," "Ecumenical Counsels," "Confessions of Faith," and "Creeds" do not determine what Scripture teaches or means. These are merely expressions of what men think or what they want others to believe.
At some time in 1603AD, Arminius introduced "Free will" salvation. Think about it, 1600 hundred years after the ascension of Jesus, a brand-new "biblical doctrine" is introduced! A "new doctrine" that now dominates the E.C. world. Up until 1603, Scripture hadn't changed! Arminius changed Scripture! Does that mean all of the Jewish and Gentile believers in predestination (They didn't believe in free will salvation!) before 1603 were doomed to "hell" because they never "accepted Christ," "made Jesus their personal Lord and Savior," "made a decision for Christ," "invited Jesus into their heart," or "they didn't confess with their mouths and believe in their hearts?" Does that mean all those who taught Scripture before 1603 were false teachers? Does this mean that God kept this "doctrine" hidden for 1600 years and decided to give Arminius a "special revelation?" Hmm, didn't the founders of Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Seventh Day Adventists all claim they were given "special revelation" and that everybody else was wrong?
Many are familiar with the Reformation. Even the E.C. world will teach about the history of the Reformation, and some even glorify the leaders of the Reformation. The Reformation was responsible for two significant impacts on the mass of common people. The first that most are aware of was the need for and the beginning of producing Bibles in the native languages of the different countries so that the average person could read Scripture in their language. The second significant impact, ignored and never taught by the E.C. world, is that predestination was also introduced to the masses and was eagerly accepted by the masses! In no time, predestination was the dominant belief of theologians, preachers, and the common folk, outside of the dominating control of the Catholic Church in Europe and in England, the Anglican Church, the Church of England.
While it was hazardous to believe in predestination in Europe due to the Catholic Church's active search and pursuit for non-Catholics. Any who stood by Scripture and opposed the teachings and power of the Catholic clergy, those who the Catholic Church labeled "Heretics," were in danger. The Catholic Church had the authority to arrest, torture, and condemn any deemed a heretic to death if accused of being a heretic. Oh, they would also confiscate any land, property, and personal wealth of a heretic and evict the heretic's wife and children, leaving them homeless and poor.
Since the Catholics Church had no power in England, and James was far more tolerant towards those not in the Anglican Church, those who believed in predestination became known as the Puritans. With the leaders' wealth, power, and political influence, the Puritans were a force James had to deal with. One of the main reasons James agreed to a "new" translation of Scripture was pressure from the Puritans. Most aren't aware that the KJV was not a "new" translation but a revision of the Bishop's Bible and influenced by the Septuagint, the Textus Receptus, and Jerome's Latin Vulgate.
The original settlers of the "New World" all believed in predestination. The Geneva bible was the only Bible in America for many years. The Geneva Bible teaches predestination. The second president of the United States, John Adams, said, "Let not Geneva be forgotten or despised. Religious liberty owes it most respect."
King James's most personal goal in allowing the KJV to be done was to have a Bible that would replace the Geneva. You can download the Geneva Bible, with study notes for free, on Google Play Store. You should do this! This country was founded by men (most of the Founding Fathers were believers) who used and believed in what the Geneva Bible taught, not the KJV! The KJV didn't appear in America until 1782, 160 years after the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock!
The reason the Geneva Bible faded away in America was two-fold. The popularity of the KJV in Europe, specifically in Britain, and the influence of the European Age of Enlightenment. While America was an independent country, American culture followed European culture. That age introduced the idea of questioning established beliefs. The Age of Enlightenment introduced the concept of the need to redefine words. One of the main goals was "deconstruction." The number one thing that was attacked and criticized was Scripture! Two main goals were that humans had a right to be "happy" and that people needed to be more tolerant. Hmm, aren't two of the main ideas prevalent in the E.C. world, that believers are supposed to be happy and that believers are to be highly tolerant towards others, especially in lifestyle and other faiths? Isn't one of the favorite verses, Mat 7:1? In fact, they cut this verse and only quote, "Judge not."
Did you know that the Methodist and Baptist churches were founded on predestination? The E.C. world would have you believe that those who believe in predestination, throughout history, have always been small, isolated, hardcore groups, always on the fringe, on the outside looking in, fanatics who refuse to "accept" what the E.C. world "proclaims to be Bible truth." The E.C. world is adamant that predestination is not true and is not in the Bible.
Well, the sheep know it is in there loud and clear. They see it, they believe it, and they live it. The following post will show the number one problem the individuals in the E.C. world have with predestination and one of the reasons they refuse to acknowledge predestination.
 

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It is obvious the main differences between Armimiasm and Predestination. Arminianism, which is based on the "Traditions of Men," teaches that God loves everybody, His love is unconditional, Jesus died for the sins of all people, and God "wants" to see every person "get saved." Predestination, which is based on Scripture alone, contradicts everything Arminianism teaches.
For those unaware of historical facts, the things Arminianism teaches do not come from Scripture; instead, the teaching started with a Dutch "theologian" named Jacobus Arminius, Oct 10, 1560-Oct 19, 1609. He was a "pastor" in the Dutch Reformed Church, which taught predestination. While he grew up as a man and when he taught in the pulpit, he believed in and taught predestination. But, at some point in time (I couldn't discover precisely when), he came to think that predestination was too "harsh," that predestination didn't "allow" any possibility for the exercise of human "free will." In opposition to Scripture and a "new doctrine" that contradicted Scripture, he developed, made up, and created the myth that God elects those who will "respond in faith to the divine offer of salvation." THIS IS NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE! THERE ARE NO VERSES THAT TEACH THIS! To teach "free will," salvation requires one to take away and add to Scripture. It means that verses have to be twisted.
You must understand that Arminius is the sole source of "free will" salvation! This was not a case where others were teaching the same thing, and he was influenced.
Predestination teaches God's sovereignty. Arminianism teaches salvation is based on man's "free will" and that each person is responsible for whether or not they "get saved." You can look at dozens of definitions describing Arminianism, and you will never read, "A theological system based on Scripture." You will always find a description that reads, "A theological system based on what Arminius taught." The idea of the prominence of man's "free will" and that man's "free will" was stronger than God's will began in the " Catholic church" and was first proposed by the "church" father Hippo sometime between 374-430 AD. Any time you see the phrase "church father," these are men who were the original leaders of the different "Churches," not "fathers of the faith." "Church Fathers," "Ecumenical Counsels," "Confessions of Faith," and "Creeds" do not determine what Scripture teaches or means. These are merely expressions of what men think or what they want others to believe.
At some time in 1603AD, Arminius introduced "Free will" salvation. Think about it, 1600 hundred years after the ascension of Jesus, a brand-new "biblical doctrine" is introduced! A "new doctrine" that now dominates the E.C. world. Up until 1603, Scripture hadn't changed! Arminius changed Scripture! Does that mean all of the Jewish and Gentile believers in predestination (They didn't believe in free will salvation!) before 1603 were doomed to "hell" because they never "accepted Christ," "made Jesus their personal Lord and Savior," "made a decision for Christ," "invited Jesus into their heart," or "they didn't confess with their mouths and believe in their hearts?" Does that mean all those who taught Scripture before 1603 were false teachers? Does this mean that God kept this "doctrine" hidden for 1600 years and decided to give Arminius a "special revelation?" Hmm, didn't the founders of Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Seventh Day Adventists all claim they were given "special revelation" and that everybody else was wrong?
Many are familiar with the Reformation. Even the E.C. world will teach about the history of the Reformation, and some even glorify the leaders of the Reformation. The Reformation was responsible for two significant impacts on the mass of common people. The first that most are aware of was the need for and the beginning of producing Bibles in the native languages of the different countries so that the average person could read Scripture in their language. The second significant impact, ignored and never taught by the E.C. world, is that predestination was also introduced to the masses and was eagerly accepted by the masses! In no time, predestination was the dominant belief of theologians, preachers, and the common folk, outside of the dominating control of the Catholic Church in Europe and in England, the Anglican Church, the Church of England.
While it was hazardous to believe in predestination in Europe due to the Catholic Church's active search and pursuit for non-Catholics. Any who stood by Scripture and opposed the teachings and power of the Catholic clergy, those who the Catholic Church labeled "Heretics," were in danger. The Catholic Church had the authority to arrest, torture, and condemn any deemed a heretic to death if accused of being a heretic. Oh, they would also confiscate any land, property, and personal wealth of a heretic and evict the heretic's wife and children, leaving them homeless and poor.
Since the Catholics Church had no power in England, and James was far more tolerant towards those not in the Anglican Church, those who believed in predestination became known as the Puritans. With the leaders' wealth, power, and political influence, the Puritans were a force James had to deal with. One of the main reasons James agreed to a "new" translation of Scripture was pressure from the Puritans. Most aren't aware that the KJV was not a "new" translation but a revision of the Bishop's Bible and influenced by the Septuagint, the Textus Receptus, and Jerome's Latin Vulgate.
The original settlers of the "New World" all believed in predestination. The Geneva bible was the only Bible in America for many years. The Geneva Bible teaches predestination. The second president of the United States, John Adams, said, "Let not Geneva be forgotten or despised. Religious liberty owes it most respect."
King James's most personal goal in allowing the KJV to be done was to have a Bible that would replace the Geneva. You can download the Geneva Bible, with study notes for free, on Google Play Store. You should do this! This country was founded by men (most of the Founding Fathers were believers) who used and believed in what the Geneva Bible taught, not the KJV! The KJV didn't appear in America until 1782, 160 years after the Pilgrims landed at Plymouth Rock!
The reason the Geneva Bible faded away in America was two-fold. The popularity of the KJV in Europe, specifically in Britain, and the influence of the European Age of Enlightenment. While America was an independent country, American culture followed European culture. That age introduced the idea of questioning established beliefs. The Age of Enlightenment introduced the concept of the need to redefine words. One of the main goals was "deconstruction." The number one thing that was attacked and criticized was Scripture! Two main goals were that humans had a right to be "happy" and that people needed to be more tolerant. Hmm, aren't two of the main ideas prevalent in the E.C. world, that believers are supposed to be happy and that believers are to be highly tolerant towards others, especially in lifestyle and other faiths? Isn't one of the favorite verses, Mat 7:1? In fact, they cut this verse and only quote, "Judge not."
Did you know that the Methodist and Baptist churches were founded on predestination? The E.C. world would have you believe that those who believe in predestination, throughout history, have always been small, isolated, hardcore groups, always on the fringe, on the outside looking in, fanatics who refuse to "accept" what the E.C. world "proclaims to be Bible truth." The E.C. world is adamant that predestination is not true and is not in the Bible.
Well, the sheep know it is in there loud and clear. They see it, they believe it, and they live it. The following post will show the number one problem the individuals in the E.C. world have with predestination and one of the reasons they refuse to acknowledge predestination.
I believe anyone can be saved - perhaps not of their own free will but at least if the church intercedes, praying for the Spirit to convict them.

Now suppose you tell me, "You're wrong, you should stop teaching that."

But if you are correct that I have no free will, then I have no autonomous power to change what I teach. I simply teach as I've been foreordained to do by God. So what's the point of "correcting" me?
 
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