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No amount of evidence will ever be enough for those determined to reject God. Human sin, and our sin nature, will override everything else if we allow it. During the end times, nonbelievers will react to prophecy and miracles with anger and hate, not repentance. After a millennium of Christ's rule, people on earth will still choose to follow Satan, proving that the excuse "if God had just given me more evidence…" is a lie.

The purpose of it all is that God can prove a point, that God is good and that the devil is evil.

Isaiah 29.
 

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Good to hear from you again GospelS. Glad to see you persevering in the Lord & rejoicing.

Yes, they demand a sign & are given signs then say no that doesn’t count. He’s shouting to them, they put their fingers in their ears. They get scientific, well, even science is working off man-made assumptions, their own glory is their god. Me & you are witnesses to the great supernatural miracles of the past (which they still rejected). He’s not silent or hidden or far off. He makes every kind of person his child. Not based on heritage, ability, wealth, country of origin, your sin, your blessings, whatever they try to box him in as as being exclusive. It boils down to they just don’t like him, they can’t, they are dead in their sin, and it leads to destruction. Be warned, how often we fall into the same thinking. So rejoice in the Lord always
 
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There's verses that spell out the damned exist for the glory of God - and more than that, b/c the saint is united to God thru Christ - the glory of the saint.
That's really hard. It means when the damned are hurting you, or you just feel hurt, - it's actually for your good.
Good news is we don't know who's truly damned, & they still have time so long as they are breathing, so we must preach the Gospel, Christ has reconciled those who believe
 
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No amount of evidence will ever be enough for those determined to reject God. Human sin, and our sin nature, will override everything else if we allow it. During the end times, nonbelievers will react to prophecy and miracles with anger and hate, not repentance. After a millennium of Christ's rule, people on earth will still choose to follow Satan, proving that the excuse "if God had just given me more evidence…" is a lie.

The purpose of it all is that God can prove a point, that God is good and that the devil is evil.

Isaiah 29.
The millennium is spent in heaven ... not on earth. Jesus is in heaven.

John 14:3: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also".
 
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The millennium is spent in heaven ... not on earth. Jesus is in heaven.

John 14:3: "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also".

The veil was torn, the heaven and earth are becoming one as in the beginning.

There are those that are inside the city by the the tree of life and those that are outside. Revelation 22.

And what place does a soul occupy after one's body perishes? "a body you have prepared for me", "the body of Jesus Christ"

Jesus Christ has indeed prepared for a place for you, a living place, that is your fellow brothers and sisters.

So let us love one another. Be holy that we may be a new heaven and earth to somebody today.

There was a war in heaven. Satan was let loose from his cell for a short time.

The reason? For the great falling away before Christ returns?!

Yes, Jesus is in heaven and the heaven is coming down and is here.

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There's verses that spell out the damned exist for the glory of God - and more than that, b/c the saint is united to God thru Christ - the glory of the saint.
That's really hard. It means when the damned are hurting you, or you just feel hurt, - it's actually for your good.
Good news is we don't know who's truly damned, & they still have time so long as they are breathing, so we must preach the Gospel, Christ has reconciled those who believe
Thank you.

What do you think about Jeremiah 31:33–34, Hebrews 8:10–11?
There are times when we no longer shall teach another but through actions live out the gospel and learn to trust that the Lord is at work in their hearts.

What about 1 Corinthians 5:5 and Revelation 22:11-12?
There can be times when we must deliver someone to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord, and sometimes to let the vile person continue to be vile as Jesus did.

And then there is Jude 1:23.
Times when we must pull some out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh, saving with fear.
 
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What about 1 Corinthians 5:5 and Revelation 22:11-12?
There can be times when we must deliver someone to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord, and sometimes to let the vile person continue to be vile as Jesus did.

This reminds me of our political climate and the divisiveness it's fostered among the citizens and believers. There comes a time when reason isn't possible and the influence exceeds the natural. All you can do is take your hands off and allow things to play out as they will.

That's a deeper teaching on the watchmen and the role they serve. There comes a point when the Lord will say enough and tell them to be quiet. It's usually followed with a word of condemnation or judgment. We saw it with Israel many times but assume it's no longer true to our detriment.

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This reminds me of our political climate and the divisiveness it's fostered among the citizens and believers. There comes a time when reason isn't possible and the influence exceeds the natural. All you can do is take your hands off and allow things to play out as they will.

That's a deeper teaching on the watchmen and the role they serve. There comes a point when the Lord will say enough and tell them to be quiet. It's usually followed with a word of condemnation or judgment. We saw it with Israel many times but assume it's no longer true to our detriment.

~bella
The political climate and the divisiveness has been heartbreaking to me to the point I'm angry with the Lord at times, although in a healthy way. It is rather painful and depressing to be angry with the Lord. I need a good friend to help me get through.

The Lord is good. He said these things will happen. It is a blessing to be alive to see the prophecies unfold but this is also becoming too heavy for me to witness what's going on I sometimes wish He rather take my life.

He also said that He had come not to bring peace to the earth, but a sword, a weapon which divides and severs. And promised His peace in the midst of it all to those who believe. I'm understanding what prophets went through being watchmen.

I follow Philippians 4:8 as did the Lord and His disciples. When I consider someone to be a greater prophet than me, I quietly listen and don't engage much on the things I tend to disagree with them. You may have noticed that about me.

I'm making every effort to keep the peace while I must fight for His Kingdom. I yearn for the days when God's people shall live together in unity, be of one mind, having everything in common. This is His desire. I seek your counsel and prayers. Thank you.
 
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The political climate and the divisiveness has been heartbreaking to me to the point I'm angry with the Lord at times, although in a healthy way. It is rather painful and depressing to be angry with the Lord. I need a good friend to help me get through.

I'm reminded of a program I watched as a child and you've probably heard of it. Looney Tunes had a wealth of life lessons if you paid attention. I was always disturbed by Wiley E. Coyote and his fixation on The Road Runner. In the beginning you don't expect the calamity but after a while you see a pattern and tell him to stop but he persists in his folly. No matter how many times he careens off a cliff or an anvil flattens him he never quits.

Obsession was a running theme through the show that was demonstrated through different characters. The end result was always the same. It led to their undoing. The bible tells us there is a way which seems right to a man and appears straight before him, but its end is the way of death. And that's what happened.

The Lord isn't responsible for the climate and adversity is a truth serum when we view it properly. It doesn't bring out the best in us as some suggest. It exposes what's already there. They possessed the ability to be unhinged for the right cause but needed a trigger to bring it out. Enter Trump, Obama, Hilary, etc and we're boiling. Or maybe not.

When you mature in the Lord you're able to confront your dichotomies. I may like 'the person' but my spirit knows their behavior doesn't coincide with the Lord's or what He represents. But when you're unable to do that and seek a savior in the natural that aligns with your biases you're headed for a fall.

The remedy is two-fold. We must be willing to admit our fear and uncertainty and how it strengthens our weaknesses if left unchecked. The political wrangling is their way of expressing their frustration and a want to wrest control and establish a theocracy. But the Lord isn't in it.

When we're rich in the word we take our thoughts and emotions captive and weigh them against His precepts for clarity and recalibration. But we won't restore balance until we acknowledge what hurts and the steps we've taken outside of cross to bring it to a close.

The Lord is good. He said these things will happen. It is a blessing to be alive to see the prophecies unfold but this is also becoming too heavy for me to witness what's going on I sometimes wish He rather take my life.

Why would you wish for that when you're needed elsewhere? That's a glorious assignment! There's something or someone who needs your presence for such a time as this. Rejoice that He counted you worthy to stand and serve during this season.

He also said that He had come not to bring peace to the earth, but a sword, a weapon which divides and severs. And promised His peace in the midst of it all to those who believe. I'm understanding what prophets went through being watchmen.

I'm largely unbothered for the most part. I understand cause and effect and the spiritual principles embedded in those teachings. How can I be upset at someone's diligence or persistence? Even when the result is bad? He sowed and reaped what he intended and if I do the same I'll have a harvest too.

You have to move beyond emotion to see the nuggets. They prosper because they're focused. Distraction is for the world not them. You respond to that by playing offense against yourself and rooting out the things that slow your pace with God. When you set them aside you can run with incredible speed as if you're being carried on the Wind.

Therefore I do not run without a definite goal; I do not flail around like one beating the air [just shadow boxing]. But [like a boxer] I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave...

I follow Philippians 4:8 as did the Lord and His disciples. When I consider someone to be a greater prophet than me, I quietly listen and don't engage much on the things I tend to disagree with them. You may have noticed that about me.

I notice many things. But all acknowledgments have their time and season. ;-)

I believe debate for debate's sake is unprofitable and rarely edifying. Enrichment should be the goal. We should be bettered through our discourse. Agreement is many layered and if we strive to hear a yes or have our opinions validated we may miss important truths, something that challenges us or reinforces our position.

We see in part and know in part and things of God are purposeful. There are some subjects the Lord unpacks for one He hasn't broached with the next. It isn't always because of their walk or lack of maturity. The more we know the more our battles increase but we're able to face them when we move in His cadence.

I'm making every effort to keep the peace while I must fight for His Kingdom. I yearn for the days when God's people shall live together in unity, be of one mind, having everything in common. This is His desire. I seek your counsel and prayers. Thank you.

I find it helpful to spend time alone and away from discussions on certain topics without vetting the audience. I have my fly on the wall moments where I'll read without responding. That's usually when I'm taking the temperature to gauge how far things have gone and making adjustments.

I've heard a lot of disconcerting things from believers and I'm more reserved in my fellowship than before. I understand the domino effect of wrong thinking and where it leads. Especially when you're guided by deceptive teachings, personalities and entities.

During the pandemic there was an anonymous hotline the government setup for tips. People were calling in and reporting their neighbors for leaving home, having gatherings, being without a mask and so on. I would never do the same but in their mind it was right.

I know I'm needed here and that influences my walk and connections. We can't bring everything to our bosom because there's vipers in the mix. We must be like Daniel and keep company with kindred spirits.

Do not yearn for the days when we'll live as one. Endeavor to be one we'll remember and celebrate when you're gone. Be impactful for the Kingdom. Never mind tomorrow. It has greater challenges than we face today but He called you to this period.

Make your epitaph what you did for Love. There's nothing better than knowing you've made a difference and the world is bettered by your presence. Lift your head you have work to do. *smooch*

Joseph is a fruitful bough (a main branch of the vine), A fruitful bough by a spring (a well, a fountain); Its branches run over the wall [influencing others]. “The [skilled] archers have bitterly attacked and provoked him; They have shot [at him] and harassed “But his bow remained firm and steady [in the Strength that does not fail].

For his arms were made strong and agile By the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob, (By the name of the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel), by the God of your father who will help you, by the Almighty who will bless you with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that crouches beneath, blessings of the breasts and of the womb.

The blessings of your father Are greater than the blessings of my ancestors [Abraham and Isaac] Up to the utmost bound of the everlasting hills; They shall be on the head of Joseph, Even on the crown of the head of him who was the distinguished one and the one who is prince among (separate from) his brothers.


When you forget who you are pray those words in remembrance.

~bella
 
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I'm reminded of a program I watched as a child and you've probably heard of it. Looney Tunes had a wealth of life lessons if you paid attention. I was always disturbed by Wiley E. Coyote and his fixation on The Road Runner. In the beginning you don't expect the calamity but after a while you see a pattern and tell him to stop but he persists in his folly. No matter how many times he careens off a cliff or an anvil flattens him he never quits.

Obsession was a running theme through the show that was demonstrated through different characters. The end result was always the same. It led to their undoing. The bible tells us there is a way which seems right to a man and appears straight before him, but its end is the way of death. And that's what happened.

The Lord isn't responsible for the climate and adversity is a truth serum when we view it properly. It doesn't bring out the best in us as some suggest. It exposes what's already there. They possessed the ability to be unhinged for the right cause but needed a trigger to bring it out. Enter Trump, Obama, Hilary, etc and we're boiling. Or maybe not.

When you mature in the Lord you're able to confront your dichotomies. I may like 'the person' but my spirit knows their behavior doesn't coincide with the Lord's or what He represents. But when you're unable to do that and seek a savior in the natural that aligns with your biases you're headed for a fall.

The remedy is two-fold. We must be willing to admit our fear and uncertainty and how it strengthens our weaknesses if left unchecked. The political wrangling is their way of expressing their frustration and a want to wrest control and establish a theocracy. But the Lord isn't in it.

When we're rich in the word we take our thoughts and emotions captive and weigh them against His precepts for clarity and recalibration. But we won't restore balance until we acknowledge what hurts and the steps we've taken outside of cross to bring it to a close.



Why would you wish for that when you're needed elsewhere? That's a glorious assignment! There's something or someone who needs your presence for such a time as this. Rejoice that He counted you worthy to stand and serve during this season.



I'm largely unbothered for the most part. I understand cause and effect and the spiritual principles embedded in those teachings. How can I be upset at someone's diligence or persistence? Even when the result is bad? He sowed and reaped what he intended and if I do the same I'll have a harvest too.

You have to move beyond emotion to see the nuggets. They prosper because they're focused. Distraction is for the world not them. You respond to that by playing offense against yourself and rooting out the things that slow your pace with God. When you set them aside you can run with incredible speed as if you're being carried on the Wind.

Therefore I do not run without a definite goal; I do not flail around like one beating the air [just shadow boxing]. But [like a boxer] I strictly discipline my body and make it my slave...



I notice many things. But all acknowledgments have their time and season. ;-)

I believe debate for debate's sake is unprofitable and rarely edifying. Enrichment should be the goal. We should be bettered through our discourse. Agreement is many layered and if we strive to hear a yes or have our opinions validated we may miss important truths, something that challenges us or reinforces our position.

We see in part and know in part and things of God are purposeful. There are some subjects the Lord unpacks for one He hasn't broached with the next. It isn't always because of their walk or lack of maturity. The more we know the more our battles increase but we're able to face them when we move in His cadence.



I find it helpful to spend time alone and away from discussions on certain topics without vetting the audience. I have my fly on the wall moments where I'll read without responding. That's usually when I'm taking the temperature to gauge how far things have gone and making adjustments.

I've heard a lot of disconcerting things from believers and I'm more reserved in my fellowship than before. I understand the domino effect of wrong thinking and where it leads. Especially when you're guided by deceptive teachings, personalities and entities.

During the pandemic there was an anonymous hotline the government setup for tips. People were calling in and reporting their neighbors for leaving home, having gatherings, being without a mask and so on. I would never do the same but in their mind it was right.

I know I'm needed here and that influences my walk and connections. We can't bring everything to our bosom because there's vipers in the mix. We must be like Daniel and keep company with kindred spirits.

Do not yearn for the days when we'll live as one. Endeavor to be one we'll remember and celebrate when you're gone. Be impactful for the Kingdom. Never mind tomorrow. It has greater challenges than we face today but He called you to this period.

Make your epitaph what you did for Love. There's nothing better than knowing you've made a difference and the world is bettered by your presence. Lift your head you have work to do. *smooch*

Joseph is a fruitful bough (a main branch of the vine), A fruitful bough by a spring (a well, a fountain); Its branches run over the wall [influencing others]. “The [skilled] archers have bitterly attacked and provoked him; They have shot [at him] and harassed “But his bow remained firm and steady [in the Strength that does not fail].

For his arms were made strong and agile By the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob, (By the name of the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel), by the God of your father who will help you, by the Almighty who will bless you with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that crouches beneath, blessings of the breasts and of the womb.

The blessings of your father Are greater than the blessings of my ancestors [Abraham and Isaac] Up to the utmost bound of the everlasting hills; They shall be on the head of Joseph, Even on the crown of the head of him who was the distinguished one and the one who is prince among (separate from) his brothers.


When you forget who you are pray those words in remembrance.

~bella
Thank you. I shall chew on this for a while. May this word of the Lord spoken for me fill my soul and bring you a blessing.
 
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Thank you. I shall chew on this for a while. May this word of the Lord spoken for me fill my soul and bring you a blessing.

While I scatter to the multitude I do not plant haphazardly. I know good soil when I see it and hear its murmur. I would be remiss to ignore the need for refreshing.

Sometimes it's necessary to invoke the earth and the elements in our struggles. This is a good time to do so and the practice should be part of your arsenal. You were given dominion in those areas. Much like she swallowed things of old she will do so again if you ask like Moses did.

In like fashion, you can carry things away on the wind, bring them to you or direct them elsewhere. Each has specific functions we have at our disposal if we'll use them. I would address the west wind followed by the north. The combination will lift your spirits and I'll seek the same in prayer.

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When you mature in the Lord you're able to confront your dichotomies.
The Lord regretted that He had made human beings on the earth, and His heart was troubled. Genesis 6:6

He destroyed it all. He restarted. Was it painful for Him? Was He angry at Himself that He had to do it this way?

He resolved the dichotomy by sending His own Son as a sacrifice. That's painful too for a father.

What about a mother who must kill her own on God's command and be left with no other choice?

Sometimes we do not want to be in the situation we are in. I serve in the army of Israel.
 
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The Lord regretted that He had made human beings on the earth, and His heart was troubled. Genesis 6:6

I have never had a moment when His regret reared its head. Man's wretchedness proves the rightness of His actions. My fealty to Him exceeds His creations.

What about a mother who must kill her own on God's command and be left with no other choice?

I will never love you more than Him. No matter the crimson that coats your blade. No matter the tears or suffering. I will never champion your cause beyond Him.

Sometimes we do not want to be in the situation we are in. I serve in the army of Israel.

On your best day you're lacking. The moment you forget that you've forgotten your place.

 
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I have never had a moment when His regret reared its head. Man's wretchedness proves the rightness of His actions. My fealty to Him exceeds His creations.
Indeed. He had counted the cost before the creation. He laid the foundations upon His covenants.

Luke 14. For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it?
I will never love you more than Him. No matter the crimson that coats your blade. No matter the tears or suffering. I will never champion your cause beyond Him.
I know. And for the watchers and enemies seeking to find faults and divisions amongst us, I will never let Him down. By this, everyone will know. John 13. He showed me better that I may do greater things than Him, albeit nothing without Him

The Passover Lamb is needed, and so is the High Priest who must prepare and slay the Lamb for the sacrificial offering. I'm referring to the covenants. I reflect on what Jesus felt when John was beheaded. He left in a boat to a remote area to be alone.

To the world, it is Caiaphas.
On your best day you're lacking. The moment you forget that you've forgotten your place.
I shall not forget that. He won't let me. :)
 
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No amount of evidence will ever be enough for those determined to reject God. Human sin, and our sin nature, will override everything else if we allow it. During the end times, nonbelievers will react to prophecy and miracles with anger and hate, not repentance. After a millennium of Christ's rule, people on earth will still choose to follow Satan, proving that the excuse "if God had just given me more evidence…" is a lie.

The purpose of it all is that God can prove a point, that God is good and that the devil is evil.

Isaiah 29.
I would like to comment, but it does not appear this OP fits this sub-forum.
I wonder if the mods would agree.
 
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I would like to comment, but it does not appear this OP fits this sub-forum.
I wonder if the mods would agree.
Dear brother, I would love to hear what the Lord has to say. My focus has been ministering to the singles. But feel free to quote my post elsewhere, wherever He leads. I will follow. :)
 
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Dear brother, I would love to hear what the Lord has to say. My focus has been ministering to the singles. But feel free to quote my post elsewhere, wherever He leads. I will follow. :)
Thank you.
I don't know how this works, but I will try.

I agree with your post.
No amount of evidence will ever be enough for those determined to reject God.
Bang on target.
Those who saw Jesus' miracles, and the powerful works done through the apostles, still asked to "see a sign from heaven". Matthew 16:1

Human sin, and our sin nature, will override everything else if we allow it.
Absolutely correct!
Pride is at the root of our sinful natural tendencies Job 33:17; Job 36:9, and is more dominant today than it ever was 2 Timothy 3:4.

During the end times, nonbelievers will react to prophecy and miracles with anger and hate, not repentance.
Yes, the scriptures tell us, despite the fact they are seeing the judgment coming, instead of repenting, they will Revelation 9:20, 21; Revelation 16:8-11

After a millennium of Christ's rule, people on earth will still choose to follow Satan, proving that the excuse "if God had just given me more evidence…" is a lie.
I like that you highlighted this, because so many people believe that everyone will be in heaven.
It is refreshing to know that there are people who see that the scriptures point to the millennial reign - Christ thousand year reign, as being his reign over the earth filled with mankind.

It does show that God did not abandon his purpose for mankind and this earth, but arranged for the kingdom in the hands of his son, to restore earth to the way God originally purposed. Matthew 6:10; Ephesians 1:6-11
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This final test at the end of the millennium will indeed prove those who are truly faithful to God.
How insightful!

The purpose of it all is that God can prove a point, that God is good and that the devil is evil.

Isaiah 29.
Yes, it would have been proven once and for all time, to everyone, that God is good - not as Satan claimed, and that opposers of God, are indeed evil.

Very nice post.
 
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To the world, it is Caiaphas.

I shall not forget that. He won't let me. :)

I'm glad you understood my intention. I will not stand for this nation. Judgment is at hand and I welcome it.
 
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I'm glad you understood my intention. I will not stand for this nation. Judgment is at hand and I welcome it.
His will be done. I shall intercede and pay the price. May the Lord grant me this opportunity and strength to drink this cup.
 
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