the purpose of this forum? changing people?

[Chilldogg77]

Endure-
Good post. I've felt the same way. I haven't spent any significant amount of time on Christian forums since this summer because I felt the same way. And now here I am, trying to avoid debate but enjoying Deeper Fellowship. Perhaps you did project the attitudes that you have had onto others, but I would sincerely doubt that you are the only one who's had this attitude. I viewed myself as a defender, seeker, and lover of God and of truth. But I found that the fruits of my debates tended to be anger and frustration. As it is, I am conflicted about debating. I also am inclined toward debating because I feel that there might be people watching the debate who may be impressionable, and I should make sure that the truth is as strongly presented as possible. So, I don't know man. But I think I understand where you're coming from.

 

[LarrySmith]

larry
dude its not your cause, and thats the whole issue really.

That's far from the whole issue.

and if i may, ask you kindly stop replying in such manner in the post that i created, ok?

er...NO. I reserve the right to post to any thread I want.
If you can't take your ideas being challenged then do not post.
It is nothing but hyprocrisy to claim to be concerned about debate...then stir the pot of controversy. You really don't have the skillset to defend your ideas at this point but you do have some gall.

say what you think about the topic i posted, but stop saying what you think about what the other people said in their replies.

I think you are missing something here. You posted a thread that condemned others but justified yourself. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

When someone tries some enlightenment ,YOU resort to ad hominenist fallacies. I was challenging the whole motive for this post. I even answered questions you asked..since you seem to totally clueless about what you are doing. As well as not understanding why you sometimes get the reactions you do.

if you have something to say, make your own post and say it there and whoever wants to will go there and read it.
please.
godlbess you.

I''ll respond to the PROPER thread..thank you very much. Maybe that's how YOU would handle the situation. I will post to the thread in which the concept is being discussed. My posts ARE on topic for this thread.

 

[endure]

Chilidogg77

thankyou for taking the time to read all that, you really didnt have to.
i do not deny that i have been wrong, but i know without a doubt that i was not the only person doing those things, and i only spake out of my concern for my and others being wrong in the way they acted and wanted people to be set free and walk in love and be who God has called us to be, but i wasnt here to expose anyone or find fault in anyone. that wasnt the purpose.
yeah, i am almost done with all debating.
i once loved to debate, i was hungry for a debate, but now i just dont want it, because ive never seen it come to any good, though maybe once actually.
its just id rather save my words for when they will do good, then open and enlarge my mouth only to prove to someone that i know what im talking about. im done with my image, if i was to debate with certain people, it would only be to prove how much i know and that i am right, and not to help them at all, and thats not God.

i want to be about Gods people and saving them, and that means saving your words for when they will do good, and not just approve yourself.

i dont think i or anyone has the right to speak the word of God or expect anyone to listen, except by grace.

becuase first of all, its not my word its Gods, and i do not deserve any part of it, the word is holy, and not a casual thing for just anyone to speak.
second, it is only by grace that i am not deceived also.
third, it is only by grace that i am able to speak the truth.

so even if i know all things and can reprove all people, i must come humbly as the lowest of all, becuase that gift is not myne and i did not earn it, only by grace. i think it is glorifying God, when you throw away your image in a debate to rather help someone.
i believe that when you withold your words becuase you know speaking would do no good for that person, thats raising people above yourself.

ya know i could speak alot of truth, but if in the end people were not changed, then God wasnt in my speaking, and i do not have the right to waste the word and my breath that way.

ya know?
i know you know all that, but this is just heavy on me lately.
godbless you. thankyou.

 

[LarrySmith]

...im sorry i would say something but i dont know how anymore, and none of my words have been heard correctly. i dont know anymore...

just, if you ever read this, please forgive me of whatever i did that offended you, and please allow me back into your fellowship, please forgive me...


well. goodday. i love you.

Lee.

You know...I missed this post. I responded the way I did because I didn't see this post.

Hmmm..it makes me wonder what else I missed.
anyway...please forgive me.
I forgive you.
I do not want to corrupt this forum with useless bickering.

 

[endure]

Larry,
thankyou so much for forgiving me. and i do forgive you.
maybe today can be a new day for us.
Godbless you.

Lee.

 

[The Midge]

Peace!


Perhaps we need a paradigm shift here. This forum is not about instructing others about deeper fellowship [with God] but rather about sharing ideas and spiritual experiences of how we enter deeper fellowship [with God].



The only way to God the father is through Jesus Christ. However there are many paths to Jesus because we all start from different places. Therefore we all describe a different route that we use to get nearer to him. There is no point in shouting down another because they are heading in a different direction than us if they are approaching from the North when we are making our pilgrimage from the South!