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Outlawing cigarettes would make America a nanny state?

Yes. As does excessive taxation.

Just throwing this out there, but are you perhaps in favor of legalizing weed? You seem like someone who would espouse that cessation of nanny-statism while espousing tobacco prohibition. I'm probably wrong though.

 

[katautumn]

Outlawing cigarettes would make America a nanny state?

Yes, because we can't necessarily criminalize things just because they're bad for you. If we outlawed everything that could become a deadly vice we'd have to outlaw alcohol, unhealthy foods, modeling glue, cans of compressed air, Magic Markers, gasoline (basically anything that could be huffed), prescription pain relievers.

 

[JustOneWay]

Yes. As does excessive taxation.

Just throwing this out there, but are you perhaps in favor of legalizing weed? You seem like someone who would espouse that cessation of nanny-statism while espousing tobacco prohibition. I'm probably wrong though.

Weed is already outlawed, so I guess America is already nanny state regardless of what they do with cigarettes. Same with crack, crank, meth, coke, and other drugs. Our Home Depot's do an ID checks when people buy contact cement and spray paint.

Nanny nanny boo boo....

 

[katautumn]

Most stores also limit the purchase of cold medications and check ID because they are frequently used to make meth. And marijuana, just like suicide, should not be illegal. But, here again, that's a whole other issue altogether.

 

[JustOneWay]

Most stores also limit the purchase of cold medications and check ID because they are frequently used to make meth. And marijuana, just like suicide, should not be illegal. But, here again, that's a whole other issue altogether.

nanny state....

 

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Weed is already outlawed, so I guess America is already nanny state regardless of what they do with cigarettes. Same with crack, crank, meth, coke, and other drugs. Our Home Depot's do an ID checks when people buy contact cement and spray paint.

Nanny nanny boo boo....

I was asking what your opinion is on the legalization of marijuana. Why the dodge?

 

[TheAnimal]

Well that's a lot of tax dollars straight into the government coffers. So non-smokers must be over the moon about this. If it encourages people to stop smoking then it can't be a bad thing as it will lengthen life expectancies and place less burden on your healthcare system.

 

[JustOneWay]

I was asking what your opinion is on the legalization of marijuana. Why the dodge?

Because it is irrelevant. If America would become a nanny state for outlawing cigarettes, then America is already a nanny state for outlawing weed.

 

[katautumn]

I'm of the opinion that America is already a nanny state.

 

[JustOneWay]

Children Of Smokers More Likely To Have Behavior Problems, Smoke And Use Drugs In Adolescence And Adulthood

Children Of Smokers More Likely To Have Behavior Problems, Smoke And Use Drugs In Adolescence And Adulthood

 

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Because it is irrelevant. If America would become a nanny state for outlawing cigarettes, then America is already a nanny state for outlawing weed.

So that's a yes then. You will not answer because you know you'll destroy your own position on tobacco with the truth, yet aren't willing to lie. I can (sort of) respect that.

 

[TheAnimal]

Because it is irrelevant. If America would become a nanny state for outlawing cigarettes, then America is already a nanny state for outlawing weed.

Not really. Prolonged use of Cannabis can leave the user with severe psychotic illnesses, as well as carrying many of the dangers associated with tobacco smoking. It's not a regulated substance so you have no idea what strength you;re getting from one batch to the next.

Anabolic steroids would be a better argument as at least they are produced in labs, and used in medical and veterinary professions, additionally although they can have physical side effects the psychological effect long term is negligible. They should be legalised far ahead of weed.

This is the same in the UK Anabolic Steroids are legal for possession whereas Cannabis is Class B. It makes sense to me.

 

[lordbt]

Yes, because we can't necessarily criminalize things just because they're bad for you. If we outlawed everything that could become a deadly vice we'd have to outlaw alcohol, unhealthy foods, modeling glue, cans of compressed air, Magic Markers, gasoline (basically anything that could be huffed), prescription pain relievers.

What the nanny state needs more than anything else (perhaps with the exception of an entire class of people begging to be babied) is cash. Which explains why they tax rather than ban the substance.

 

[katautumn]

Children Of Smokers More Likely To Have Behavior Problems, Smoke And Use Drugs In Adolescence And Adulthood

Children raised by a single parent or live in poverty are also more likely to have behavior problems, smoke and use drugs. What is the point here? Correlation does not equal causation. It's likely a culmination of factors.

 

[katautumn]

What the nanny state needs more than anything else (perhaps with the exception of an entire class of people begging to be babied) is cash. Which explains why they tax rather than ban the substance.

That's true, although I can't figure out why they won't legalize recreational marijuana under the same premise.

 

[JustOneWay]

So that's a yes then. You will not answer because you know you'll destroy your own position on tobacco with the truth, yet aren't willing to lie. I can (sort of) respect that.

I smoke neither. I do not condone illegal behavior.

 

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Children Of Smokers More Likely To Have Behavior Problems, Smoke And Use Drugs In Adolescence And Adulthood

I'm 8 and 0 with children without serious problems. A link won't change my mind.

Hang on for a couple of minutes, I'm on dial-up, gotta upload something I want to show you.

 

[katautumn]

By the way, the study says that children raised within three generations of alcohol or drug abuse AND heavy smoking are more likely to have behavioral problems and that smoking alone was not a factor in children with such issues. All the article proves is what we already know - that if you leave packs of cigarettes within a teenager's reach and you're not looking, they're likely to take a puff at some point.

 

[lordbt]

I'm 8 and 0 with children without serious problems. A link won't change my mind.

Hang on for a couple of minutes, I'm on dial-up, gotta upload something I want to show you.

Dial up!!?? You mean you Canadians finally abandoned the tin cans and string method.

 

[JustOneWay]

I am starting to think that all you people smoke....

lol

There is nothing more lively than a smoker when they are being picked on. A few years ago they outlawed smoking in all bars, restaurants and public places in my state. The smokers became unhinged......It would have been funny if it wasn't so pathetic.