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The power of the mind to deceive and be deceived.

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HuntingMan

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quite a few years ago I worked with the son of a company owner as a small printing press operator.
This particular son was not one of my favorite people that Ive ever come across in life, but I did at least get to observe some things with him that helped me just a little more in understanding human nature.

He was built pretty small, so his interest...'obsession'....with food didnt always make a lot of sense in my own mind. I dont think there was more than 30 minutes of any particular day that you couldnt look at him and see something being stuffed into his mouth...sometimes it was things that personally would make me physically ill, but apparently it was edible.

This is the guy who literally brings a grill to work because he cant wait for the evening to have something cooking. How he kept as thin as he did is beyond me.
He used to love grilling burgers and brats will all sorts of 'extras' tossed on. Ill admit that I did eat my fair share when the recipe was right.

Something that stands out in my mind tho, was his use of mustard. Dont get me wrong, I love the stuff on anything that it will work with, but he seemed like it was his favorite part of the meal or something.

So we had a big cookout at lunch one day...well, long before lunch, he had started grilling just after clocking in that morning and kept running outside every 15 minutes to check the oven, so to speak.

Most of what was on the menu that day was brats and sausages of one sort or another...and plenty of mustard.
Im not really sure how many mustard plastered brats he ate before he got the bad news, but my guess is that it was at least half a dozen.....

Well, I cant remember exactly how the topic came up, but apparently someone had started talking about how much mustard this chap put on his food and I remember him saying how much he liked it.
His long time GF worked there as a PT press operator/gofer and she was almost as fond of food as he was.

I didnt get to hear every word of the mustard conversation, but I got enough of it to understand that everyone noticed the same thing I had, that he seemed to be infatuated with the stuff.

So his GF says something along the lines of 'I just dont know how you like mustard so much when you hate vinegar".
I do remember the expression on his face at that point. It was a cross between shock, horror and anger at her for daring to blaspheme his precious mustard idol.

It was probably better that he had a mouth full of food and had to finish chewing so he had time to think before responding to her (he wasnt the most polite person in the world). But when he did finally speak it was to deny any possibility that mustard contained vinegar.
Im not sure why she waited until he was actaully mad, but she finally went out to get the bottle of mustard to bring it back to show him the contents.

Huh...'vinegar'.
Well, lunch was very quickly over and he didnt talk much the rest of the day.

After that point the man wouldnt touch mustard. I worked there a couple more years and there wasnt a cookout that I can remember after that day and as far as I know he declared mustard to be anathema...banished forever from the cupboards and REFRIDGERATOR....and death to the one who ever brought the vile stuff back into his presence.

Obviously Im exaggerating a bit, the man wouldnt know what anathema meant if it were shown to him in a dictionary, but his passion for mustard completely died that day simply because he found out it contained vinegar, which I found out he had had a bad experience of some sort with as a child.

This grown man was able to convince himself that something he loved just 24 hours before was disgusting and inedible simply because his ears heard something that they didnt want to know.


All these years later I think of how many things our perceptions have caused us to like or dislike... to believe or to reject....not because they are reality, but simply because on some conscious or subconscious level we choose to believe what we want to believe.


How does this tie in to anything even remotely relevant to anything?
Im not entirely sure.
It just seemed like a good story...
 

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Sorta liked when I had family over for a cook out. They were all eating bison and deer meat, but didn't know it.
All through dinner...this is so good. Near the end, I told them and they all looked sick..Yuk, i'll never eat that again....

It does show how we are controlled by what we have ingrained into our mind for good or bad.

It's always good to test anything from more than one point of view.
 
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Sorta liked when I had family over for a cook out. They were all eating bison and deer meat, but didn't know it.
All through dinner...this is so good. Near the end, I told them and they all looked sick..Yuk, i'll never eat that again....

It does show how we are controlled by what we have ingrained into our mind for good or bad.

It's always good to test anything from more than one point of view.
:)

I do like to have the wife try new things without telling her what it is first. Ill usually just bring a spoonful and ask her to try it and she usually will.
There has been more than a single time where she ended up liking something that if Id told her what it was beforehand, shes agreed that she would not have liked it.

She loves sushi and tried to get me to try it for a while but I just assumed Id hate it based on the concept of raw fish :sick:
Turns out when I tried it that I ended up liking it far more than Id have guessed. Instead of trying it earlier I let what I heard about it cause me to believe I woudnt like it.

This is sort of irritating...
Its really too bad that I have those here at CF (members) who will jump at the chance to use whatever they can against me here and elsewhere, because when I started this thread I had a lot of other stuff Id wanted to share here about the ability of our minds to deceive us.
There have been a lot of things happen in my own life very relevant to the concept presented in the OP because of the genetic disease I have and what it does.
But Ive been thinking about the repercussions because of these particular persons vindictiveness so sadly I dont feel I can talk about the long list of things Id like to here.
 
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My mind tells me that I've seen the same things happen Huntingman, but I can't remember the details. Good story that does show an aspect of human nature.

I think this same dynamic was happening with the Pharisees and Jesus. The Pharisees were so convinced that they way of living to serve God was the way that would please God the most that they couldn't conceive of any other way. Yet alone come Jesus and says this way will please God also and they get all up in arms and suppost killing Jesus, their Messiah!

Narrow is the way, Jesus, but love is a board way with many expressions. So we have many ways to be baptised, but there is one baptism. That's how I'd apply your point to the church.

dayhiker
 
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How does this apply to what we have believed to be theologically sound for centuries? Is it possible that we have collectively deceived ourselves on the details?

Yes, yes, yes!

We are told "our cultural stories" from the beginning. Many don't question them, even defending them to the death. Sadly even killing to defend their stories.
 
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