The power of God

[chriscomplex]

I guess the greatest struggle I had within my Christian faith, was. Why don't I see the "Mature Christians" that I know, displaying the power of God as Jesus said they could do.

It's all "Read your bible" and "Attend church" and "Pray in his name" and "Pay your tithe" but what about the miracles I'd say.

 

[Saint Beloved]

I agree, mature in faith Christians do seem to be few and far between. Any one of us could lose hope waiting to find one in our vicinity, such a sad, sad, witness.

 

[Theadorus]

Becuase of fear, doubt, and personal experiences. Many believers start off believing in the supernatural power of God, but when a situation arises when someone is in needn of something like healing and then pray for someone and don't see the answer to that prayer they then become discouraged. I've seen a lot of people go through this, and i have experienced this myself.

Also, churches won't even bring it up most of the time because when you do bring it up, you are then expected to operate in the gifts. And what happens if you don't see a healing, or what happens if your word of wisdom is wrong? People fear these thing and therefore they shy away from the topic altogether, and tell us things like "if it be thy will, lh lord."

So really, it all come down to fear and doubt.

 

[chriscomplex]

I agree, mature in faith Christians do seem to be few and far between. Any one of us could lose hope waiting to find one in our vicinity, such a sad, sad, witness.

A few out of 2.2 billion is alot.

 

[chriscomplex]

Becuase of fear, doubt, and personal experiences. Many believers start off believing in the supernatural power of God, but when a situation arises when someone is in needn of something like healing and then pray for someone and don't see the answer to that prayer they then become discouraged. I've seen a lot of people go through this, and i have experienced this myself.

Also, churches won't even bring it up most of the time because when you do bring it up, you are then expected to operate in the gifts. And what happens if you don't see a healing, or what happens if your word of wisdom is wrong? People fear these thing and therefore they shy away from the topic altogether, and tell us things like "if it be thy will, lh lord."

So really, it all come down to fear and doubt.

Yes "If it be your will" so if the power of God doesn't release from them, they can say "It wasn't in God's will"

Anyway. I've been to lots of churches, but never seen the power of God as described in the New Testament. I have noticed how selling Christian books and music is big now.

Weird.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I am so lucky now to have a parish priest who couldn't be a better witness to God's love. He is outstanding! I'm sure he has touched so many lives just by his presence.

 

[rocknanchor]

Why don't I see

what about the miracles

Well now, just how "narrow" is narrow as Jesus described? It isn't just belief but depth of foundation to resist this giant whirlpool of doubt.

For instance, and you'll have to find this out for yourself, for most every supernatural or miraculous act, two characteristics in the individual were present with most every display of such power recorded. God himself knows what foundation is being undertaken, and you are testifying a report of individuals not that far from yourself.

Then again, God knows the heart.

And without faith it is impossible to please God
Hebrews 11:6

 

[chriscomplex]

Well now, just how "narrow" is narrow as Jesus described? It isn't just belief but depth of foundation to resist this giant whirlpool of doubt.

For instance, and you'll have to find this out for yourself, for most every supernatural or miraculous act, two characteristics in the individual were present with most every display of such power recorded. God himself knows what foundation is being undertaken, and you are testifying a report of individuals not that far from yourself.

Then again, God knows the heart.

And without faith it is impossible to please God
Hebrews 11:6

Have you ever asked yourself "I believe in Jesus, so why can't I do the things he did?"

 

[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[vinsight4u]

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[The Brown Brink]

I don't ask God to "give" me anything.
I ask Him to help me get it myself.

 

[rocknanchor]

Have you ever asked yourself "I believe in Jesus, so why can't I do the things he did?"

No, since I believe in faith, God honored it just as it says, with a blessing so big it could not be contained. So, in effect He beat me to the punch.

So why aren't you an indiscriminate recipient of the breaking miraculous news? You really need to take heed, its all there.

If I'm out there shaking my fist saying,

"Alright God, ,
Prove it,​

Prove it,​

Prove it."
​

I forget, "God resist the proud".

 

[chriscomplex]

No, since I believe in faith, God honored it just as it says, with a blessing so big it could not be contained. So, in effect He beat me to the punch.

So why aren't you an indiscriminate recipient of the breaking miraculous news? You really need to take heed, its all there.

If I'm out there shaking my fist saying,

"Alright God, ,
Prove it,
Prove it,
Prove it."
​

I forget, "God resist the proud".

A credible God has to act credibly.

 

[Serving Zion]

A credible God has to act credibly.

Those two factors mentioned but not stated in post #7, are Love and Faith. This would therefore exclude the greater majority of Christians at any given time. What do you suppose could be the main contributing factors for Christians who lack those two crucial elements?

 

[The Brown Brink]

If I thought of God as a "father," I think I'd struggle with the personification...
I think I'd attribute human behaviors to God...expect human behaviors...
But I don't personify God.

I don't have a problem with anyone else personifying God, though...
I just don't think it's wise...
A father-God sets up an emotional roller coaster.
"God is all-powerful so why doesn't God do this or that?"
It's a good question...if you think of God as a "father."

But God is not a father.
God doesn't move like a man.

Many people sometimes feel betrayed by God, when terrible things happen...
They become angry with God.
Their anger is an ironic Godsend, though...
Anger has certain effects on the human body that will strengthen it in times of stress...
God helps us even when we are angry with Him.
That's the power of God.

 

[Serving Zion]

God doesn't move like a man.

This is a crucial key: God moves through men (1 Corinthians 3:16, Mark 16:17-18) - showing that we need to facilitate His power in the world. Where we have a lack of strength in that representation (eg, Matthew 5:48), it is a weakening to Him.

It's an interesting impression of who YHWH is, to read the way The Mechanical Translation entitles Him:

and “YHWH [He exists]” of “Elohiym [Powers]” molded the human of powder from the ground and he exhaled in his nostrils a breath of life and the human existed for a being of life,

 

[chriscomplex]

Those two factors mentioned but not stated in post #7, are Love and Faith. This would therefore exclude the greater majority of Christians at any given time. What do you suppose could be the main contributing factors for Christians who lack those two crucial elements?

I would have to say, that it has to do with not wanting to be known. If love is a relationship, then you can't compose one without knowing each other openly. A lack of love in Christians would point to a fear of being known, and knowing others.