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That says it all.
The ends justified the means, didn't it?
That's pretty rich, Opdrey, in view of the fact that you will not address the fact that the IAU violated its own bylaws.One of the most thrilling things in the world is to spend time to rationally attempt to discuss a topic with someone only to have that someone turn around and urinate all over it by ignoring pretty much everything.
I am reminded of a verse from the Bible. Luke 6:31 I believe.
Did they violate their own bylaws?
QV please:I didn't realize you were into legalism.
Yes, it seems that even astronomers cannot have an election without messing around with the process. Such is sadly now the case as the vote in Prague by the International Astronomical Union to demote Pluto from planet to dwarf planet has been exposed as a fraud.
That's pretty rich, Opdrey, in view of the fact that you will not address the fact that the IAU violated its own bylaws.
In my opinion, Pluto would not have been downgraded had they not violated said bylaws.
But even if I'm wrong, the vote still would have been legitimate, and I wouldn't be harping as much on this.
I'm second to none in bringing up the flying squirrel.Can I ask: do you understand the difference between how something is LABELED and what that thing IS?
I doubt it.Opdrey said:It most certainly would have.
And the ends justified the means, didn't it?Opdrey said:Remember: the goal was to establish a technical definition of a planet that could be consistently applied.
Academia attempts that.Opdrey said:Unless you think Ted Haggard single-handedly made Christianity a joke.
Why don't you call Alan Stern that.Pharisee!
Just a reminder from the OP, with highlights:
"Only four percent of the IAU voted on the controversial demotion of Pluto, and most are not planetary scientists. The vote was conducted in violation of the IAU's own bylaws on the last day of a two-week conference when most attendees already had left."
You'd think that if the majority of the IAU was opposed to the change, they would have changed it back by now.
You make a good point here, and I've wondered that myself.You'd think that if the majority of the IAU was opposed to the change, they would have changed it back by now.
Assuming she made a typo and meant to say, "were not planetary scientists," I can only surmise that the other 96% can't do anything about it, even if they could.Only four percent of the IAU voted on the controversial demotion of Pluto, and most are not planetary scientists.
I have no idea what the IAU rules are.Is commentary in Daily Kos to be trusted? I've seen no evidence that it should be taken as "gospel".
My point was that you seem *obsessed* with the "rules" of the IAU.
I don't know.Yes. Now answer the question.
I have no idea what the IAU rules are.
I never even heard of the IAU, until all Charon broke loose about it.
And they'll determine who agrees upon it, won't they?The IAU is what has always been: in charge of the agreed upon nomenclature of astronomy.
Only four percent of the IAU voted on the controversial demotion of Pluto, and most are not planetary scientists.
Do I need to remind you of this.I'm second to none in bringing up the flying squirrel.I doubt it.
I think they knew something we don't.
That's why they rigged it.And the ends justified the means, didn't it?Academia attempts that.
The problem is, they think they can succeed.
I am not an astronomer let alone a member of the IAU and my reasons for demoting Pluto were not the same according to the revised IAU guidelines defining a planet, yet by your 'logic' I am a crook.AV1611VET said:sjastro said this:
If sjastro wants to inject himself behind those closed doors back then and tell me he would have voted against Pluto ... which was done in violation of their own bylaws ... then sjastro is no better than anyone else behind those doors who did the same thing.
And if I think those others who did that are crooks, then I'm going to think the same thing of sjastro too.
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