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The placebo effect works best when we are not really sick in the first place. When we are not really sick, of course, we have the ability to heal ourselves just by thinking. When we are sick, we have the ability to receive healing from God.
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There are some limits to the placebo effect, or 'the power of positive thinking'. The effect is real, but a placebo will have little effect on a broken limb (though it could have an effect on the amount of pain one experienced).
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For minor ailments, it can work. But for the really serious stuff, actual medicine all the way.
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The placebo effect can affect sensations (e.g. reduce pain) and things under control of the brain, (e.g. stress response, some immune responses). This can make it pretty powerful in conjunction with effective medical treatments, and for minor ailments, but beware placebo's dark twin, the nocebo effect...
One interesting feature of the placebo effect is that it is subliminal or subconscious, and so it can work even when you know you're getting a placebo treatment.
One interesting feature of the placebo effect is that it is subliminal or subconscious, and so it can work even when you know you're getting a placebo treatment.
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the placebo effect isn't really an effect, it's best described as regression to the mean plus subjective experiences.
If you take 100 people and do 0 things, some will heal fater then others, some slower then the average, those that would normally better are the placebo. Thats all it is, is just taking that random thing where X % will do better regardless of anything and keeping track of that, and it also is subjective things like pain, and such wich haven no objective end point, though the things we can test, like amount of pain pills taken, movement of joints due to pain and such don't change.
So you go into a chiropractor for a sprained ankle, your pain seems to be down subjectivly, but your still taking 8 asprin a day, and your ankle doesn't get any better movement.
If you take 100 people and do 0 things, some will heal fater then others, some slower then the average, those that would normally better are the placebo. Thats all it is, is just taking that random thing where X % will do better regardless of anything and keeping track of that, and it also is subjective things like pain, and such wich haven no objective end point, though the things we can test, like amount of pain pills taken, movement of joints due to pain and such don't change.
So you go into a chiropractor for a sprained ankle, your pain seems to be down subjectivly, but your still taking 8 asprin a day, and your ankle doesn't get any better movement.
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A friend of mine had a 13 year old daughter who asked to be put on birth control, but her parents felt she was too young to be taking unnecessary medication, so they gave her a placebo instead.
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The power of belief is incredible... I read in college, in a textbook, that they put people on medication, and the medication was working for them, then, without their knowledge replaced there medication with sugar pills and did a study... All of them were unaffected... The believed with their minds that they were taking medication that had been proved was working, and when they switched them, without their knowledge, nothing happened, nothing was or became different, nothing changed...
I take medication, and it helps, but, I believe and put faith in the fact that the medications have been proven to work for what I am using and taking them for... I also believe that ultimately, God made them in this day and age for people like me with similar problems for this day and age... I try not to question it, the fact that it's working, and does, is and has proven to work for people like me, with my problems... When I question it, I start having problems, so, I try not to, but take them "on faith" that they are working, and this seems to work best...
My ex takes medication, but, she's always looking up, information on the pills she takes, for and pays way to much attention to, all the side effects that only "some" a very small percentage usually, some people experience with that medication... She has to constantly try something else all the time, cause she starts having and experiencing "side effects", I think it's because she does it to herself, in a way, she doesn't pay any attention to the percentages, she just automatically thinks and believes that because some people do, that she is going to also, and, she does usually...
Miracles were possible in the past, due to, or mostly in part of the fact that they "believed" their own faith, working along with God, allowed it to be possible and happen, I think we all lack that kind of faith today...
God Bless!
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The placebo effect, actually doesn't really heal anything.
No tumor ever disappeared through placebo's.
No virus was ever killed through placebo's.
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And if you would actually look into what these medications were treating in the first place, I think you'll find that it wasn't anything really serious.
Suppose someone takes blood thinner medications for a condition that can result in a heart attack. Switching to a placebo will not thin the blood any more. And the person will die of a heart attack.
or so you believe, anyway.
Because we actually understand how the world works today and because we have moved on from calling everything we don't understand to be a "miracle", if the thing we don't understand happens to have (or seems to have) a positive outcome.
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Yup, it can completely suppress critical thinking and rationality.
That entirely depends on the ailment and the medication involved.
Most medications are manufactured by pharmacology companies in order to make a profit; those with natural origins have evolved, mainly in plants, and been repurposed and refined by man; and only the randomised control trials of medical scientists can reliably verify that they work as intended.
I think the people who did all the hard work should get the credit - I'd like to see you get medications from God without them.
I wish, but there are still plenty of people with that kind of unquestioning faith around.
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The effect is limited of course, but it is interesting that positive thinking has at least some degree efficacy. It's the wisdom of sages and a lesson from nature.What do you guys make of this...?
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Do you think so? I picked it when I first joined because it reminded me of my favorite saint, Francis of Assisi and did not seem creepy to me. However, for your benefit I will pick another.
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