The Overthrowing of St. Nicholas' II Rule?

[Orthodox Andrew]

Is it true that it was a plot by the Freemasons and the Jews? Was Lenin a Jew? Also, what are some good books to read on the subject?

 

[emil_g]

Is it true that it was a plot by the Freemasons and the Jews?

It's difficult question, but i would not to say that it was a plot by the Freemasons and the Jews. Russian people itself has chosen the destiny

Was Lenin a Jew?

As I know , at little part

 

[Moros]

Is it true that it was a plot by the Freemasons and the Jews? Was Lenin a Jew? Also, what are some good books to read on the subject?

Lenin was 1/4 jew.

we've been over this a hundred times, fella. the bolshevists attempted to export the tsar and his family, no western country would grant them asylum, so they were shot.

no plot about it.

the mensheviks were mainly jews; the bolshevist leadership were also mainly jews.

http://www.russians.org/communist.html

trotsky was a jew. (lev bronstein)
karl marx was a jew (moses mordechai levy)

communism was jewish from the beginning.

 

[Orthodox Andrew]

Thanks guys.

 

[Oblio]

communism was jewish from the beginning.

You mean of course that the nascent Communists were of Jewish ethnic descent ?

 

[Moros]

Correct. Neocon David Horowitz writes also writes in his book, Radical Son, that the Communist Party USA was such a Jewish phenomenon, that evening classes were held in Yiddish.

 

[Maksim]

Hi everyone. This is an odd thread I have picked for my first post, but I thought I would add this:

There are more (non-Jewish) Russians in Russia than there are Jews in the entire world. How could "the Jews" be responsible for the overthrow of the Tsar? It is an absurd notion. The Bolshevik leadership included numerous people of Jewish descent (for various historical reasons), but this is not the point. Russian people of numerous religions and ethnic backgrounds took part, and this is a historical fact. There were many Latvians in the Bolshevik movement, but one never hears of a "Latvian conspiracy" (nor should one of course) There was no conspiracy by "the Jews" and we really should not contribute to such nonsense.

 

[Oblio]

Good point.

I'd like to point out that my last post was to correct the possible misreading of Osels post that one should equate communism with jewishness, not that I necessarily agreed with him.

 

[St. Tikon]

Good point.

I'd like to point out that my last post was to correct the possible misreading of Osels post that one should equate communism with jewishness, not that I necessarily agreed with him.

I sincerely hope that NO ONE on this board hates Jewish people.
The one shameful thing that comes to mind when I think of our Orthodox Church in Russia, are the pogroms carried out by the Procurator of the Holy Synod, against Jews.

 

[Polycarp1]

It would be worth noting in this discussion -- and I contribute this simply in the interest of historic accuracy, not to push an issue -- that the Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Tsar.

Rather, a variety of causes including reverses during World War I caused a massive upsurge of negative feeling towards the Tsar's government. The ultimate result was the Tsar resigning his Autocratic status in favor of a caretaker government headed by Prince Aleksei Lvov, which was rapidly replaced by a Republican government under President Alexandr Kamensky. It was this latter government which was overthrown by the October Revolution led by Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. (And it was of course Bolsheviks who executed the Royal Family.)

 

[St. Tikon]

It would be worth noting in this discussion -- and I contribute this simply in the interest of historic accuracy, not to push an issue -- that the Bolsheviks did not overthrow the Tsar.

Rather, a variety of causes including reverses during World War I caused a massive upsurge of negative feeling towards the Tsar's government. The ultimate result was the Tsar resigning his Autocratic status in favor of a caretaker government headed by Prince Aleksei Lvov, which was rapidly replaced by a Republican government under President Alexandr Kamensky. It was this latter government which was overthrown by the October Revolution led by Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. (And it was of course Bolsheviks who executed the Royal Family.)

On this subject, we agree.
One note: Alexander Kerensky was the head of the government.

 

[Polycarp1]

On this subject, we agree.
One note: Alexander Kerensky was the head of the government.

:o Thank you for the correction! (Kamensky was IIRC another Bolshevik of secondary importance; I got my "-sky's" confused -- my apologies!)