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If you believe God created the universe the how he did it becomes irrelevant. Why he did it becomes relevant. One of the reasons why he created the universe might be to explain exactly how he created the universe. But if you don't believe in God then he can't explain anything directly to you, all your knowledge of God would come from finite sources, not the infinite eternal source.
A lot of wild tales are trotted out in these forums. We'll need more than your subjective opinion to find yours compelling.Spirituality is a subjective experience, Atheist know this about religious people, so they demand objective proofs. When none is forthcoming they claim victory.
If you believe God created the universe the how he did it becomes irrelevant. Why he did it becomes relevant. One of the reasons why he created the universe might be to explain exactly how he created the universe. But if you don't believe in God then he can't explain anything directly to you, all your knowledge of God would come from finite sources, not the infinite eternal source.
Spirituality is a subjective experience, Atheist know this about religious people, so they demand objective proofs. When none is forthcoming they claim victory.
If you believe God created the universe the how he did it becomes irrelevant. Why he did it becomes relevant. One of the reasons why he created the universe might be to explain exactly how he created the universe. But if you don't believe in God then he can't explain anything directly to you, all your knowledge of God would come from finite sources, not the infinite eternal source.
Your claim of love then is dismissible based on your silly mental gymnastics.
We know the reality of God, if you ever get over yourself you could know him to and find life eternal.
no you don't, you use faith.... which is the "evidence" of what you HOPE FOR.
You've told us over and over that without an explanation of how the universe came into existence, there's no truth to how the universe came into existence.
You still haven't told us how the universe came into existence though, you just said that it was god's doing. So how did he do it?
According to your own faulty logic, you need an explanation for this or there's no truth to the statement that "god created the universe".
Hey Dean, it's good to see you back on here posting again. I hadn't seen you in the atheist sections for quite some time now. Were you lurking in other sections or just taking a break from C.F.?
I'm aware that God is Love, that love pervades humanity, that it is common, and one can plagiarize the attributes of God creation, ignoring the source of love, pretending Love is a derivative of uncaused evolution.Not when you are perfectly aware that I most likely do love based on basic human patterns. This is why you will not dare say I do not love. You wont even honestly doubt it and the reason you wont is because there is evidence for it.
I'm aware that God is Love, that love pervades humanity, that it is common, and one can plagiarize the attributes of God creation, ignoring the source of love, pretending Love is a derivative of uncaused evolution.
The point is that you and I are not eternal and infinite, therefore we are required to believe things that make sense. God as an explanation for why the universe has a beginning is an explanation that does make sense, therefore, if you want to remain rational you should believe this is a possible explanation until it's proven that its wrong. You can believe in a multiverse as the most rational explanation if you want, but the only thing that could disprove that would be God.
God can't even be disproved even if the multiverse is proven.
no you don't, you use faith.... which is the "evidence" of what you HOPE FOR.
I took a break but I had multiple bans and this place just made me angry. This isn't a safe place for an atheist INFPI'm starting to think I shouldn't have come back here at all. I've already had another warning. I think I'm going to hang it up forever this time.
God is a present tense reality for me, not just a future hope. A lot of the people who were born into Christianity but then left are people who were merely members of a Christian social club, they were never spirit born so they had no roots.
Growing in an understanding of God will continue for an eternity so yes, faith will always be a need.
-_- you are also aware that is a very basic human quality that nearly every human you ever met has to some extent and that you'd be a fool to claim someone does not have any of
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