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Not at all. That I am not convinced that the "Bigfoot" creature exists is not a claim that it doesn't.Didn't you imply that? If you didn't then you implied that the garden existed.
And you could try dropping the condescending toneMaybe you should try without using mocking words.
So where is it in error? A literal Adam and Eve, or not? Global flood, or not? A 13 billion-year-old cosmos and the process of life emerging billions of years ago, or thousands? Perhaps a checklist would be in order to help sort out the religionists on these subjects.I will.
That may be an error.
Form where I am standing, you are all on the same team.I am an Orthodox christian (nothing of what you met before), not a "Bible alone" christian, because for me truth is not gathered in the Bible only, but on the Church, the Church has supreme authority and only the Church is infallible, so you shouldn't talk to me like to one of those literallist creationists that call themselves christians because the True, Church of Christ is nothing alike.
Seriously, are you new to these forums?If you are asking me in which way my theology differs from theirs then in your head a huge mess takes place, since when theology is arguing about the age of the earth?
Indeed. Why did you not post this in the Exploring Christianity forum?Since when theology is speculative philosohpy?
"I am not convinced" does not need a cause.This is what I referred about in my post when I talked about the causes of atheism.
By the same argument, humans naturally pee their pants.I did not say that the humans are naturally christians (even if I don't know that), but I just showed you that the human is naturally religious.
Are you calling me a liar?Any one knows more than you it would seem if this is all you have learned .
A "real" education, that shows that gods are real? Not this forum, you don't. That attempt would be off-topic, and have this thread locked.Time for a real education outside the confines of your locality .
They naturally do. What should we do in that case? We have to teach them what is right and why it is right, why should he contain himself and why does he have to restrain his impulses.By the same argument, humans naturally pee their pants.
If he needs to "develop" even idolatry, then he was still born without gods. Therefore he was born an atheist, just like everyone else.They naturally do. What should we do in that case? We have to teach them what is right and why it is right, why should he contain himself and why does he have to restrain his impulses.
The same happens with the idolatry he developed in the supposed jungle, we have to teach him why it isn't right and how to make use of that religious sense he has in order for it to become actually useful and productive for himself.
To me, not really. I could be right, wrong or something in between. For me, "I don't know" is a suitable answer to the mysteries of life, death, purpose, and the universe. So very few things are in the "must be so" bucket.Isn't 'that' having faith in your belief that it MUST BE SO ?
It shouldn't have taken seven pages to arrive at this conclusion.
The flesh lives according to the flesh, and does not know of God unless he is drawn by the Spirit.Hello there everyone. I am sure this has been discussed before but I would like to start a new discussion on this. I want to hear your opinions on why do you think atheism exists and its cause. I will tell mine only after I see yours.
Because some people need proof. Jesus said to that man who asked Him to heal his son: if you people don't see signs and wonders you will by no means believe.Hello there everyone. I am sure this has been discussed before but I would like to start a new discussion on this. I want to hear your opinions on why do you think atheism exists and its cause. I will tell mine only after I see yours.
I think we will see fanciful comeback, like PZ Myers Courtier's Reply where the atheist (Dawkins, in this example) is compared to the boy at the end of the fable The Emperor's New Clothes, who is the only reasonable voice that recognizes the Emperor is naked. Myers satirized the aforementioned critics as follows:[1]
"I have considered the impudent accusations of Mr Dawkins with exasperation at his lack of serious scholarship. He has apparently not read the detailed discourses of Count Roderigo of Seville on the exquisite and exotic leathers of the Emperor’s boots, nor does he give a moment’s consideration to Bellini’s masterwork, On the Luminescence of the Emperor’s Feathered Hat. We have entire schools dedicated to writing learned treatises on the beauty of the Emperor’s raiment, and every major newspaper runs a section dedicated to imperial fashion; Dawkins cavalierly dismisses them all. He even laughs at the highly popular and most persuasive arguments of his fellow countryman, Lord D. T. Mawkscribbler, who famously pointed out that the Emperor would not wear common cotton, nor uncomfortable polyester, but must, I say must, wear undergarments of the finest silk. Dawkins arrogantly ignores all these deep philosophical ponderings to crudely accuse the Emperor of nudity."
Just like that little boy that could not see the Emperor's new clothes.The flesh lives according to the flesh, and does not know of God unless he is drawn by the Spirit.
A spiritual man may as well debate the matter with a pet: even if he loves the pet and considers him family, the pet will never understand. But unlike the pet...all natural men [of the flesh] are created equal in their ability to seek and find God. Some just don't.
So when you point out that humans are naturally religious, we could also conclude that it´s something we have to teach them out of.They naturally do. What should we do in that case? We have to teach them what is right and why it is right, why should he contain himself and why does he have to restrain his impulses.
The same happens with the idolatry he developed in the supposed jungle, we have to teach him why it isn't right and how to make use of that religious sense he has in order for it to become actually useful and productive for himself.
No it doesn't. Atheism is nonbelief in gods.Atheism posits non-belief in a valid explanation for the universe.
You are once again conflating possibility with actual reality.The reason it's a valid explanation is because it's rational to believe in the possibility of an eternal infinite God who created the universe (this has nothing to do with statues on Saturn) This means it's rational to assume God exists and expect confirmation from this God.
Why is it rational to assume theism? You've asserted this repeatedly, but you haven't justified it in any way.Millions of people claim to have received confirmation, yet many atheists continue to refuse to assume God exists even though it's rational to do so. The position that it's irrational to assume God exists does not change the truth that it is reasonable to assume God exists at any point in time.
And apparently naturally polytheistic.I did not say that the humans are naturally christians (even if I don't know that), but I just showed you that the human is naturally religious.
Hello there everyone. I am sure this has been discussed before but I would like to start a new discussion on this. I want to hear your opinions on why do you think atheism exists and its cause. I will tell mine only after I see yours.
It wouldn't matter though ... would it?Even Christians can't agree what the bible says,
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