' The One ' Is it biblical ?

[Lead]

Wait, you want me to show you were something is NOT in the Bible? Dude, its not Biblical, you may choose to beleive it and thats fine, but you can not back it with Scripture. Do I like to thionk that God has a better half picked out for me so that she can help me in my walk? Of course, but I can not back that with Scripture that he has one person picked out for me.

Ok then tell me this instead. Why do you think the story of Isaac and Rebecca does not show that God has a specific person picked out for you.

 

[JacobHall86]

Ok then tell me this instead. Why do you think the story of Isaac and Rebecca does not show that God has a specific person picked out for you.

Because Im not Isaac, nor am I Rebecca.

 

[JacobHall86]

Ahh okay, it's not stated in scripture sure, but just because something is not stated in scripture does not make it untrue. As such we have the Spirit who sheds light on everything.

True, but you cant state it as Doctrinal or Scriptural truth either.

 

[Lead]

Because Im not Isaac, nor am I Rebecca.

So are you saying that the command to the children of Israel "thou shalt not murder" only applies to the children of Israel because no one else other than the children of Israel are the children of Israel?

My point is that the Bible is, for the most part, a historical record of the acts of God. If God works in a particular way as evidenced by Adam and Eve and Isaac and Rebecca, why can that not be applied to us?

 

[JacobHall86]

Since Im not a Child of Isreal, no. However, since I am Gentile I would live by the Noahide covenant, which upholds the Ten Commandments.

And you are really comparing apples to oranges, since one is a command, the other is a scenerio which you are attempting to twist to fit an Unbiblical position.

 

[Lead]

Since Im not a Child of Isreal, no. However, since I am Gentile I would live by the Noahide covenant, which upholds the Ten Commandments.

And you are really comparing apples to oranges, since one is a command, the other is a scenerio which you are attempting to twist to fit an Unbiblical position.

Your right, it is apples to oranges. But this Noahic covenant is an interesting idea. Maybe we should start a new thread to discuss this. Side issue, but, are you against the death penalty? Because it is fairly clear that we should not take another person's life. So even war would not be permissible. At least that is how I interpret it.

One more sidenote then I will get back on topic. You would have to discount nearly the entire book of Proverbs. Because, Solomon was speaking to his son for most of the book. Obviously, just because it was directed at his son does not reduce the truthfulness of the words.

Anyway, back on topic. Let me try to compare apples to apples. Ok, take Job. Are you saying that we can't learn anything from the story of Job? Such as sometimes God allows Satan to hurt us in order to test us.

In the same way why can't we take a lesson from Isaac and Rebecca and Adam and Eve that God has a specific person picked out for us, if any.

 

[JacobHall86]

Still apples to oranges.

Capital Punishment = Im cool with it, it needs to be revamped though.
War = cool with it too.

Proverbs says "Blessed is the man" not "Blessed are you my son" its a general statement, not specific.

Job situation is not a good comparison, because its something that is reaffirmed throughout the Bible. "The One" is not Biblical however.

It is from the Greco Roman idea of love, its based on this nonsense of "Love at first sight". DOnt get me wrong, I do beleive that the Lord will tell certain individuals that they are looking at their spouse immediatly, but it is not Doctrine and cannot be supported with Scripture.

 

[Lead]

Still apples to oranges.

Capital Punishment = Im cool with it, it needs to be revamped though.
War = cool with it too.

Proverbs says "Blessed is the man" not "Blessed are you my son" its a general statement, not specific.

Job situation is not a good comparison, because its something that is reaffirmed throughout the Bible. "The One" is not Biblical however.

It is from the Greco Roman idea of love, its based on this nonsense of "Love at first sight". DOnt get me wrong, I do beleive that the Lord will tell certain individuals that they are looking at their spouse immediatly, but it is not Doctrine and cannot be supported with Scripture.[/quote]

I was about to say that I agree with you. But I changed my mind. However, I did change my overall opinion of the matter.

God brought Eve to Adam. Eve was especially made for Adam. Can you marry outside of God's will? Yes you can. But that does not mean that God cannot work wonders. I think the real issue that we are dealing with here is the question of what is marginal, and God's best. God's best is the way He originally intended it, as depicted in the story of Adam and Eve.

However, us being humans can stray from God's will. Because God is a great God he can use our mistakes for good. Marrying someone that God did not specifically choose and set apart may be good. But surrendering the area to God and asking God pick is the best.

I think we can learn lessons from the several places in the Bible where God specifically chose a spouse for a person. There are several places in the Bible where God specifically chose one person. They have already been mentioned but four notables are Adam and Eve, Isaac and Rebecca, Mary and Joseph, and Hosea and Gomer.


But I don't know how you can be cool with capitol punishment if you think only the Nohaic Covenant applies to you. Because it is fairly clear that God forbade killing in the Noahic Covenant rather than murder as in the Ten Commandments. Anyway, like I said maybe we should start a new thread.

The first time God gave authority to kill anyone was in the Mosaic Covenant when God gave the government the authority, not the individual. So, I guiess my point is that unless you take the Mosaic Covenant into account, you can't have the death penalty. I call for new thread to discuss.

 

[JacobHall86]

I have had a thread deleted for my thoughts on the death penalty, so I have no desire for it, however the Bible makes it clear in many places that the blood of Murderers is required of them.

 

[Sleaker]

So are you saying that the command to the children of Israel "thou shalt not murder" only applies to the children of Israel because no one else other than the children of Israel are the children of Israel?

My point is that the Bible is, for the most part, a historical record of the acts of God. If God works in a particular way as evidenced by Adam and Eve and Isaac and Rebecca, why can that not be applied to us?

Scripturally Christians are the new Israel, and the new commandment that goes with them is to love your neighbor as yourself and to love God with all of your being. This is the fulfillment of all the law and prophets. And by fulfillment that means that it sums them up, and shows how to carry them out. Romans 11 shows how we are part of Israel now.

 

[lalala]

I take a middle of the road approach to this topic.

I do believe that God has a plan for my life and will that He wants me to follow, however since i have been given free will i can live outside of His will. I can chose to follow God's leading and, if He does have someone in mind for me, marry the man the He chose for me.

ooooor, I can chose to reject God's leading and marry someone I was never supposed to be with in the first place. It doesn't mean that my marriage to this man is any less binding than my marriage to the man Godchose for me would have been - i would have still committed to spending the rest of my life with that person after all. But God can take that choice of mine and turn it around to bring glory to His name (Romans 8:28).

 

[Sleaker]

I take a middle of the road approach to this topic.

I do believe that God has a plan for my life and will that He wants me to follow, however since i have been given free will i can live outside of His will. I can chose to follow God's leading and, if He does have someone in mind for me, marry the man the He chose for me.

ooooor, I can chose to reject God's leading and marry someone I was never supposed to be with in the first place. It doesn't mean that my marriage to this man is any less binding than my marriage to the man Godchose for me would have been - i would have still committed to spending the rest of my life with that person after all. But God can take that choice of mine and turn it around to bring glory to His name (Romans 8:28).

Exactly! I love it, God is all about redemption, especially when we choose to submit to Him, no matter what mistakes we've made if we are repentant, He is faithful to welcome us back.

 

[Beauty4Ashes]

I don't know the answer either.

 

[HeyJupiter]

i believe we have "more then one