The number one bugger for creationists: C

[Tachocline]

Remarkably I do. I learned of reading a book called "the infiltrator" a continuation of the T2 series. It was a good book...

But what's your point?

ROTFL, you inadvertently made my point. No offence but seek more education. Oh my, Skynet and company. ROTFLMAO.

 

[w81minit]

Do you know who the Luddites were?

Why is it that you equate faith with anti progress?

Why do you so wrap youself into man's ascention? The tower of babel fell for just such a notion. Where you see idiots I see quiet faith, where you see wisdom, I see the verse 'there is a way which seemeth right unto a man...'
Where you see people ignoring facts, I see people who trump facts with tuth.
It is curious that you seem to set evolutionist up as the most learned. It doesn't require education to believe in evolution, but if you want it, every public school in America teaches it.

 

[Philosoft]

Man philosoft, you said that same thing about one of my posts in another thread....did you eat something that didn't agree with you?

Now that you mention it, my stomach is contemplating rebellion.

You are really angry tonight...

Right now, I'm tired to death of reading the YECs' posts in this thread and drowning in a veritable sea of ego.

pssst btw, how do you get away with this flaming? I always get in trouble for it...albeit I don't call anyone or their ideas stupid....not to mention twice in a single post.

I called the author of the quote stupid. I don't think he's a member here.

 

[Tachocline]

At least you know who they were. The other guy had me cracking up.

 

[w81minit]

This is the stupidest thing I have heard/seen/encountered in at least the last two hours. This time, bevets, I don't even care if this is a shamelessly mined quote. It's stupid.

tsk, tsk, snipe with attitude. You will win more friends with flies... or wait, you can influence honey vinegar...awwee shucks, I guess I shoulda finished high school. What is tha tquote anyhow?

 

[Jet Black]

My interpretation is fallible. Please explain why your interpretaton is better.

God's spoken word says her interpretation of His written word is better than yours.

 

[aeroz19]

Everyone, please stop any hostilities and name calling; I don't want this discussion to get deleted.

*saves certain posts to her files on computer just in case*

 

[Philosoft]

tsk, tsk, snipe with attitude. You will win more friends with flies... or wait, you can influence honey vinegar...awwee shucks, I guess I shoulda finished high school.

Bevets has borne false witness in this forum more times than the lot of us can count. Bevets maintains a webpage that is literally an encyclopedic cache of false witness. Bevets has long since used up his goodwill around here.

What is tha tquote anyhow?

What do you mean? Did you not read it?

 

[Arikay]

It appears that creationists seem to have given up making the claim that creationism is science.
Ok, im happy.

If someone out there still claims its science, I would be interested to hear the scientific rebutal to the refutations given so far.


Oh, and we never made god a liar, Gods creation makes a literal God a liar/deciever. Please keep up.

 

[w81minit]

Sigh. Well, you know what? I hold no fear for what science will tell me. I trust it because it can be tested and verified and disproven, and it can also give results and further understanding and knowledge, as well as improve the standard of living. I really like science. And if science tells me something, I have no fear that it will challenge what I already might believe, because what I may believe cannot be tested, verified, and disproven.

I have nothing to fear.


Who is to say? I don't think that will happen. This is a very deep question.


You will be surprised to find that over 50% of the atheists and agnostics here are x-Christians.


Geocentrism was debunked. Do you think that any portions of the Bible were debunked as a result?

My arguement stands. When you chop it up, it loses some constext. I do fear. I fear that those who could otherwise be saved, are lost as result of believers not standing up for truth.

I love science, I love mathematics, I just put God ahead of them both. I do not believe you can scientifically measure God, nor mathematically calculate his presence. He is that He is. When Moses went to free the Isrealites from Egypt they put their science and wizardry against God. God won. God allowed Pharoh to have his heart hardened to the end that the first born among all of Egypt was slain, that all of his chariots and armies were utterly destroyed. It was their confidence in themselves and what they could see that made them proud. God chose that to demonstrate his power and authority.

If we do not defend our faith, it will face persecution and attempted annihilation. Look at history - Christians (in the past) made the best garden torches. Hitler killed jew and Christian alike. Hilter (it was said) was an evolutionist. I am not comparing evolutionists here to Hitler. I am stating history for context where the debate of realativism is concerned and to support that where sin is called sin, the messenger suffers.

 

[Tachocline]

I think the problem is that it's not as much setting up God as the sacred cow but the setting up of the false idol (er Bible) as a sacred cow. Hence I used the term Luddite. (And I'm still laughing at the T2 reference from the other guy)

 

[nyjbarnes]

w81minit, very good post.

 

[Tachocline]

Hitler killed jew and Christian alike.

Whoa, not true, not true, falsehood alert. Hitler was a Christian, he was not a church goer but he never renounced his Catholic faith as far as I know and many speeches he refers to his belief in the Christian God. Heck even the SS regiments had chaplains assigned to them.

 

[nyjbarnes]

(And I'm still laughing at the T2 reference from the other guy)

Why is it funny? Is my choice in literature amusing to you? Is the source of my understanding of the word you tried to make (though didn't, at least not directly) a point with not worthy?

I am curious, edging on slightly confused...and wondering if I should be offended.

 

[Jet Black]

My arguement stands. When you chop it up, it loses some constext. I do fear. I fear that those who could otherwise be saved, are lost as result of believers not standing up for truth.

how do you determine what is the truth in the first place though?

I love science, I love mathematics, I just put God ahead of them both. I do not believe you can scientifically measure God, nor mathematically calculate his presence. He is that He is.

I would agree that science cannot tough the supernatural

If we do not defend our faith, it will face persecution and attempted annihilation.

is your faith the same as the truth though? do you have faith in the right thing? your faith is that your interpretation of the bible is correct, and you will ignore any evidence to the contrary.

Look at history - Christians (in the past) made the best garden torches. Hitler killed jew and Christian alike. Hilter (it was said) was an evolutionist.

Hitler was a mess. he also claimed to be christian. German soldiers for example had "Gott Mit Uns" on their belt buckles - "God with Us" and Hitler had an obsession with finding objects such as the Lance of Longinus and Holy Grail to give him power.

I am not comparing evolutionists here to Hitler. I am stating history for context where the debate of realativism is concerned and to support that where sin is called sin, the messenger suffers.

The problem with mentioning people like Hitler and Stalin is that they inappropriately used evolution, they appplied it in areas outside it's remit (Stalin wasn't a Darwinian though, he was a Lamarckian, which is why all his crops failed and people starved) so using these people to criticise evolution is like trying to use the Borgias to criticise catholicism.

 

[w81minit]

Easy. It goes by various monikers: vanity, conceit, smugness, narcissism, pride, ego...

Nathan Poe, I respect, you - that is another story.
I will not tolerate your snipes and arrogance. I am trying to be civil and you seem to desire a war of words. Perhaps you should take your ball and go home. The real dangers in the forum are not that I ridicule your trite arrogance and demonstrate your mental poverty. The real danger is that I ignore you.

One more snipe and consider yourself on the permanent 'waiting for a response list'.

Lets be civil.

 

[Tachocline]

It's not the literature choice it's that you didn't know the term irrespective of that. I'm quite shocked.

 

[nyjbarnes]

Whoa, not true, not true, falsehood alert. Hitler was a Christian, he was not a church goer but he never renounced his Catholic faith as far as I know and many speeches he refers to his belief in the Christian God. Heck even the SS regiments had chaplains assigned to them.

According to you and others on this site you can be a Christian and an evolutionist at the same time...so which is it buddy?

T2 hater.

 

[nyjbarnes]

It's not the literature choice it's that you didn't know the term irrespective of that. I'm quite shocked.

I learned the term through reading the book. I didn't tell you when I read the book, so as far as your concerned anywhere from 92' on is fair game.

Since reading is what enhances mental capacity especially as it relates to vocabulary I would suppose I was just doing what I needed to to be on your level...

maybe someday with enough tutelege, I to can ascend to the ranks that you so obviously carry.

Beyond this I think you're just ignorant of civil discussion.

 

[Tachocline]

According to you and others on this site you can be a Christian and an evolutionist at the same time...so which is it buddy?

T2 hater.

Am I the only one where this question is making no sense at all?