The Number Game

[Arkanin]

Come play a game with me. Choose any number between one and 100,000 and I will explain why it has a miraculous and inexplicable connection with world politics. Other people are equally free to explain why the number has miraculous and divine significance as well.

I think the point of such a game is obvious, which is that numerology is bunk. Come on, now. You know you want to play!

EDIT: Numerology can almost be admired like a magic trick can be admired when not taken seriously. It is like giving someone a cold "psychic" reading when there are actually no supernatural forces at work. In a sense, it's a clever kind of illusion by persuasion if you do it properly. By fixating on certain details of a number and splitting it up in certain ways, you can create the illusion that a number has special significance in a certain way when actually, it could be interpreted as special or significant in many ways. The way to make this illusion work is to focus on a compelling coincidental significance and omit details about the number that don't help it seem significant in that way.

 

[Garnet2727]

Ok, I'll play. 2727. That number, by the way, has a particular significance to me.

 

[Danhalen]

Come play a game with me. Choose any number between one and 100,000 and I will explain why it has a miraculous and inexplicable connection with world politics. Other people are equally free to explain why the number has miraculous and divine significance as well.

I think the point of such a game is obvious, which is that numerology is bunk. Come on, now. You know you want to play!

11 / Π

Give me the exact reason this particular number is important.

 

[Mumbles]

Okay...
23.3pi*e^4.12

 

[Ophis]

explain ... inexplicable

What?


Anyway, 47.

 

[Garnet2727]

Actually, I'm going to expound a bit. In every class I took in highschool, I was either 21 or 27 on the name list.

Since 1977, I've lived in a place that had the number 7 either in the street address or unit number. (Except for 4 months in Florida in 2000.)

1977 - 1982. Unit number of the apartment was 7.

1982 - 1995. Unit number of the condo I lived in was 7.

1995 - 2000. My house street address was 2727. First house I ever bought. That's why I use 2727 at the end of my name when I join a forum and Garnet is already taken. (Except that 4 months in 2000 that I lived in Florida.)

2000 - 2004 . My house address was 742.

2004 - present. The street address of where I live in now is 7 xxxxxxx St.

Is there something spooky and supernatural going on here? Is numerology of some sort controlling my life. Nope. It's just interesting coincidence.

Since I'll be moving soon from Alabama to Michigan, I'll be interested to see if the number 7 shows up again.

Oh and here's another interesting coincidence. One place I lived was Echo Lane. Another place I lived was Call St. Fun, eh?

Edited to add: Lessee what numerologists can do with that. *wicked evil grin*

 

[Garnet2727]

11 / Π

Give me the exact reason this particular number is important.

Okay...
23.3pi*e^4.12

Math nerds!

 

[Forest]

754,877

 

[Lord Emsworth]

99,999

 

[PapaLandShark]

Come play a game with me. Choose any number between one and 100,000 and I will explain why it has a miraculous and inexplicable connection with world politics. Other people are equally free to explain why the number has miraculous and divine significance as well.

I think the point of such a game is obvious, which is that numerology is bunk. Come on, now. You know you want to play!

I will concede your point...but why is this in the Apologetics area?

 

[Arkanin]

Ok, no idiotic non-integers / mathematical expressions. It really isn't cute, funny or clever.

I will concede your point...but why is this in the Apologetics area?

People have brought numerology into apologetics many times before, so it seems relevant to me. Now, let's go to the good stuff.

99,999

This one is very easy. It is, particularly, a satanic symbol on several different levels.

First, a common theme of satanic symbols is that of inversion. E.G., that which is good is turned on its head. An example of this is an inverted cross. Instead of inverting a symbol of good, however, a symbol of evil is inverted. This inversion of an extremely number, then, symbolizes an attempt to maximize all evil.

But it gets worse. On top of this theme of inversion is that instead of six digits, there are only five. This is like the above inversion of an evil symbol to create an even more evil symbol. Seven represents God, six, "One less than Him", E.G., Satan, but five? If one less than god is satan, what is one less than satan? This would not be so significant if it were not for the already common theme of taking an evil symbol and reducing it in a way that makes it evil.

Biblically, there are worse yet two numbers of significance to god, seven and three. Seven is god's number, well, because he chose it (and we know and agree about this). Three represents the trifecta of divine perfection, the trinity. Yet there are exactly two inverted digits preceding the traditional inverted "666" pattern; one less than three and then three. Again there is the perversion of a holy symbol and redundant subtraction from it! Worse yet, the initial two digits can simply be treated as a reduction from "666" and the last three digits satan's symbol.

2727

One might say the number 2727 is highly significant in the context of your life, in that god is using it to tell you something. But what? I'm curious; do you like science fiction?

2727 is a very special date in a book called Absolution Gap, a uniquely religious science-fiction novel. It is a unique novel in that it is highly allegorical with respect to the philosophical persuit of truth. In the story, this is the year in which a young woman unravels the truth about the universe. Indeed, it is a story in which an ancient religion is the only thing that can save mankind. Surely this rings a bell.

Actually, speaking in all honesty, would god place the number 2727 in your life so that you might find it curious that there is a book with some eerie similarities to your own nature -- you do seem like a very philosophical lady -- and read the book? I don't know. I believe god communicates with you in small ways. Maybe you were supposed to read this thread and read my silly explanation of the number and have it happen to push you in the direction of reading that book on a stupid whim. Maybe the section containing its subtle allegory of a young woman persuing 'Truth' is something you were meant to read. Then again, maybe not. But you'll never know if you don't read it.

 

[Arkanin]

Again, I disclaim that I do not have powers and I am just trying to make a point. Even though that 2727 thing is a little creepy. Anyway, I will get to forest's number tomorrow. Hopefully somebody else will do a few of these? Heheh.

 

[Arkanin]

47

Hmm. Interesting facts about 47: it is between 46 and 48. It's the 15th prime number and the 3rd Carol-number. Also, a fibbonaci sequence starting with the sequence 4, 7, yields 47 after precisely five terms have been passed. This is to say that 47 is a Keith number.

Let's see. The fifteenth prime number. The third carol number. Divide fifteen by three and you get five, precisely the number of terms preceding it in its Keith number sequence -- which, the fact that it is a keith number at all is very impressive. 47 is indeed a very special number. But what does all this mean? I'll tell you tomorrow.

 

[PapaLandShark]

Moved over to the Philosophy section...better place for this.

 

[DailyBlessings]

Hmm. Interesting facts about 47: it is between 46 and 48. It's the 15th prime number and the 3rd Carol-number. Also, a fibbonaci sequence starting with the sequence 4, 7, yields 47 after precisely five terms have been passed. This is to say that 47 is a Keith number.

Let's see. The fifteenth prime number. The third carol number. Divide fifteen by three and you get five, precisely the number of terms preceding it in its Keith number sequence -- which, the fact that it is a keith number at all is very impressive. 47 is indeed a very special number. But what does all this mean? I'll tell you tomorrow.

You totally missed the significance of 47, friend.

Try googling "47", "Star Trek", and/or "Pomona college".

 

[Arkanin]

Actually it's funny you should mention that because I think there is a simple explanation for the '47 conspiracy'

It's funny you should mention star trek because being a pseudo sci-fi dork, I'm watching the Voyager episodes for the first time. And I am amazed at the sheer stupidity of Catherine Janeway and her crew... or, at least, their writers probably should have hired a Vulcan. But it's still a very fun show.

At any rate, here is the thing. Star Trek (in this case) is written by a bunch of writers. They are probably similar people. And here is the thing about people who try to make random numbers up: they can't. They'll often show certain very frequent recurring digits. In fact, you can automatically parse someone's data in a report to see if there is an extremely high number of repeating digits and at a certain point, you can become very confident that someone just made the figures up..

Moral of the story is that whether you're cooking your books or writing Star Trek episodes, use a pseudorandom number generator. Anyway, got side tracked. Preparing to host valentine's day party for my friends, lots of interesting threads. Sorry to delay responding more but I will post back here later.

 

[DailyBlessings]

At any rate, here is the thing. Star Trek (in this case) is written by a bunch of writers. They are probably similar people. And here is the thing about people who try to make random numbers up: they can't. They'll often show certain very frequent recurring digits. In fact, you can automatically parse someone's data in a report to see if there is an extremely high number of repeating digits and at a certain point, you can become very confident that someone just made the figures up..

But the 47 thing is quite intentional. Not a conspiracy, just an in-joke for Pomona grads. http://www.pomona.edu/Welcome/Trek/Trek.shtml

 

[Garnet2727]

<snippety>

An editorial comment. I just spent a good half hour responding to this, went to preview post…and MINOR MAINTENANCE. ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH! What I posted was lost. Let me repeat. ARRRRGGGGGHHHHH!!!!! So here I go again.

One might say the number 2727 is highly significant in the context of your life, in that god is using it to tell you something. But what? I'm curious; do you like science fiction?

Well, when I was younger I discovered Arthur C. Clark, Edgar Rice Burroughs and Robert Heinlen. I also loved, and still do love, cheesy Star Trek novels. Although it’s considered more of a fantasy genre, I first read The Lord of the Rings trilogy when I was 9 years old. I’ve re-read that trilogy and the Hobbit every year since then. Oh, almost forgot, Stephen Donaldson! The Thomas Covenant series. OK, way long answer. Short version is yes, some science fiction. Oh! Near forgot Anne McCaffrey’s PERN series. I discovered dragons in my early-30’s. Anyway, back to that short answer. Yes, some science fiction and fantasy. I tend to read books I enjoy over and over and over…

2727 is a very special date in a book called Absolution Gap, a uniquely religious science-fiction novel. It is a unique novel in that it is highly allegorical with respect to the philosophical persuit of truth. In the story, this is the year in which a young woman unravels the truth about the universe. Indeed, it is a story in which an ancient religion is the only thing that can save mankind. Surely this rings a bell.

I looked up a few reviews of the book. Looks interesting. I found that it is the last of a trilogy. Since I have too many lonely nights ahead of me, I’ll order the first in the series. If I enjoy it, then I’ll order the next two. And no, saving mankind doesn’t ring a bell with me.

(I’d better explain lonely nights lest you and my other friends on here worry about me. My residence is in Alabama. My new job is in Michigan. I MUCH prefer Michigan to Alabama. My contract with my employer includes moving me and hubby to Michigan once the final contract with the state of Michigan is signed. Well, there have been hitches. Not unusual with this kind of large project, but the signing has been delayed. That means that in the meantime, I’m traveling. I’ve been in Michigan for a month. I’ll go home to hubby this weekend, then back to Michigan for two weeks, then home to hubby for a weekend, then back…get the drift? Once the contract is signed, however, both hubby and I will be together in Michigan.)

Actually, speaking in all honesty, would god place the number 2727 in your life so that you might find it curious that there is a book with some eerie similarities to your own nature -- you do seem like a very philosophical lady -- and read the book? I don't know. I believe god communicates with you in small ways. Maybe you were supposed to read this thread and read my silly explanation of the number and have it happen to push you in the direction of reading that book on a stupid whim. Maybe the section containing its subtle allegory of a young woman persuing 'Truth' is something you were meant to read. Then again, maybe not. But you'll never know if you don't read it.

Heck if I know Arkanin. I don’t consider myself to be philosophical. The very word ‘philosophy’ conjures up images of brilliant but boring men, wearing tweed jackets, smoking pipes, sporting goatees and talking about things that make me want to bang my head against the nearest solid object. “Of course the blasted tree makes a sound when it falls, you self conceited baboons! Whadd’ya think, the properties of sound just suspend because your precious ear isn’t there to hear it? “Of course I exist, whether or not you do is your own blasted problem!” If you’re interested, I’ll tell you sometime about how I got kicked out of the only philosophy class I ever took in college. Fortunately, I was able to substitute sociology and anthropology. Those courses made a lot more sense to me.

I digress. I don’t pursue The Truth or The Ultimate Purpose of Life. I’m not that smart. People who know me well will tell you that some days I’m too stupid to pour water out of a boot. Those same people will tell you that on other days, I’ll not only pour the water out the boot but also redesign the blasted thing so water doesn’t get in there in the first place. I have more stupid days than smart days.

I just try to understand things as best I can. That’s hardly some great philosophical stance or heroic search.

But anyway, I’ll get the first book in the series and see how things go from there.

On yet another aside, the only fictional character that has ever resonated with me is Lessa, in the PERN series. Although our physical descriptions are about as opposite as it gets, her approach to life is one that I understand.

 

[Species8472]

Actually, I'm going to expound a bit. In every class I took in highschool, I was either 21 or 27 on the name list.

Since 1977, I've lived in a place that had the number 7 either in the street address or unit number. (Except for 4 months in Florida in 2000.)

1977 - 1982. Unit number of the apartment was 7.

1982 - 1995. Unit number of the condo I lived in was 7.

1995 - 2000. My house street address was 2727. First house I ever bought. That's why I use 2727 at the end of my name when I join a forum and Garnet is already taken. (Except that 4 months in 2000 that I lived in Florida.)

2000 - 2004 . My house address was 742.

2004 - present. The street address of where I live in now is 7 xxxxxxx St.

Is there something spooky and supernatural going on here? Is numerology of some sort controlling my life. Nope. It's just interesting coincidence.

Since I'll be moving soon from Alabama to Michigan, I'll be interested to see if the number 7 shows up again.

Oh and here's another interesting coincidence. One place I lived was Echo Lane. Another place I lived was Call St. Fun, eh?

Edited to add: Lessee what numerologists can do with that. *wicked evil grin*

Sounds like your noticing the Sacred Geometry of life.

Sacred geometry is geometry that is sacred to the observer or discoverer. This meaning is sometimes described as being the language of the God of the religion of the people who discovered or used it. Sacred geometry can be described as attributing a religious or cultural value to the graphical representation of the mathematical relationships and the design of the man-made objects that symbolize or represent these mathematical relationships. The golden ratio was often used in the design of Greek and Roman architecture. A contemporary usage of the term describes a supposed re-discovered mathematical order to the intrinsic nature of the Universe that is represented in crop circles and in ancient architecture such as the Great Pyramid and Stonehenge.
The golden ratio, also known as the god ratio, golden proportion, golden mean, golden section, golden number, divine proportion or sectio divina, is an irrational number, approximately 1.618 033 988 749 894 848, that possesses many interesting properties. Shapes proportioned according to the golden ratio have long been considered aesthetically pleasing in Western cultures, and the golden ratio is still used frequently in art and design, suggesting a natural balance between symmetry and asymmetry. The ancient Pythagoreans, who defined numbers as expressions of ratios (and not as units as is common today), believed that reality is numerical and that the golden ratio expressed an underlying truth about existence.
The universe is created by thought consciousness which manifests in physical reality through a geometric blueprint that we call Sacred Geometry. It repeats in cycles giving the illusion of linear time so we can experience emotions. The term "sacred geometry" is used by archaeologists, anthropologists, and geometricians to encompass the religious, philosophical, and spiritual beliefs that have sprung up around geometry in various cultures during the course of human history. It is a catch-all term covering Pythagorean geometry and neo-Platonic geometry, as well as the perceived relationships between organic and logarithmic curves.
In sacred geometry double digits that reflect eachother are called powers, such as; 2727=9+9=9.
Triple digits that reflect eachother are called god powers, such as; 666=9. 3,6,9 are all derivative of the god powers.

It has been long thought that the universe has been ordered in sacred geometry, of which nature is numerical. It is also believed that sacred geometry can activate dna(or what they lacked for the word in the ancients); can activate a higher level of awareness/consciousness--through the application of sacred geometry within thought, moment-by-moment. Symbols are keys to the vault of the mind. They are before us both night and day. A being of light illuminates the entire world, gives meaning to meaning and symbol to symbol. Sacred geometry cannot be proven through science since it is a perception that has personal meaning, according to every individuals' genius.

 

[Casstranquility]

I want to play! 3,569