The NSA Debacle

[4christ88]

*web whispers* hmm dunno whether to talk cuz someone somewhere will go through what I say...well this is public forum anyways, so ahem *back to speaking*

I'll try to be diplomatic, there are two sides to every coin.
1) a) Mr.Snow broke his word - i'm sure he signed many i-shall-seal-my-lips documents and probably swore a couple of oaths of silence and confidentiality. He worked in the Government so who better than he to know the gravity and repercussions of breaking every single one of them

b) the government probably truly has their nation's best interest at heart. This is matter of national security and Mr.Snow has helped US' enemies to know some vital truths that were protecting the nation etc



2) a)Government broke the trust of their people, broke into their privacy without their consent..and a whole nation feels betrayed
b) not only that there are alleged claims that they spied on other nations, worse they spied on embassies and other places that should be protected by their diplomat rights. Instead of US to address those claims and apologize or somehow appease the big powers like China, Russia, the EU nationsetc, they just relentlessly pursuing their manhunt and accusing those nations of protecting Mr.Snow


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and so the arguments can continue till there's no tomorrow ...

 

[Stravinsk]

FYI, just released:

Part 2 of Edward Snowden Interview not previously aired:

The Guardian - Interview with Edward Snowden in Hong Kong Part 2 - YouTube

 

[AwesomeSock]

Debacle? NSA doesn't even exist. The acronym stands for No Such Agency.

 

[Inkachu]

 

[Stravinsk]

Thought this would also be relevant to this thread:

NSA scandal delivers record numbers of internet users to DuckDuckGo | World news | The Guardian

That's one of the anonymous search engines I use.

https://ixquick.com/eng/protect-privacy.html

is another.

Cheers!

 

[RDKirk]

b) not only that there are alleged claims that they spied on other nations, worse they spied on embassies and other places that should be protected by their diplomat rights. Instead of US to address those claims and apologize or somehow appease the big powers like China, Russia, the EU nationsetc, they just relentlessly pursuing their manhunt and accusing those nations of protecting Mr.Snow

Oh, my (George Takei voice). Nations have always, always, always spied on each other's embassies, 'way back to biblical times.

Back during the Cold War in the 70s, the new US embassy in Moscow was initially built by a Russian contractor. It was totally infested with eavesdropping devices. Even the rebar in the walls had bugs in them.

But on the other side, so had the CIA bugged the Soviet embassy in Washington DC. The best trick: A CIA cover company got the maintenance contract for the copy machines in the Soviet embassy. They had cameras hidden in each machine that took a photograph of every document copied. When the maintenance technician (a CIA operator) changed the toner...he also changed the film.

 

[lsdj]

I would highly recommend the book, Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper.

In this day and age, there is no such thing as a government at work for it's people. They only work to procure power.

And while we're at it, please take "In God We Trust" off of US currency. Because the US, as a nation, doesn't. And it wasn't put there in the first place because it did, only as a patriotic ploy to rattle sabers against the big, bad Communist bear of the 50's.

But who cares, right? There's race riots we need to be covering in Oakland.

 

[RDKirk]

I would highly recommend the book, Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper.

In this day and age, there is no such thing as a government at work for it's people. They only work to procure power.

It's always been that way. That's how God described it in 1 Samuel.

And while we're at it, please take "In God We Trust" off of US currency. Because the US, as a nation, doesn't. And it wasn't put there in the first place because it did, only as a patriotic ploy to rattle sabers against the big, bad Communist bear of the 50's.

That's when the motto went on currency. It started appearing sporadically on coins a bit over a hundred years ago--and was fought for decades by Christians who believed that it should not be on "filthy lucre," considering the kinds of things the US and US citizens did with money.

 

[lsdj]

Thanks for the summation.

I like how I said it better. LOL.

All jokes aside, 1 Samuel is a long book. Care to cite the specific verse, please?