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It must be understood in its context. Just like any writing. It cannot mean what it never meant.
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It must be understood in its context. Just like any writing. It cannot mean what it never meant.So what? The bible was written for TODAY.
Well, if they claim that we do have free will, then we cannot be predestined in the way of salvation, in the way we think of the word predestination. Any definition of predestination must include our having a real choice. You cannot claim God is sovereign over our will..because He limited Himself to allow us the choice!Fair enough. Then it should be easy to show where Reformed Theology teaches that we have no free will because of predestination.
It can mean things people long ago never dreamed of. The context has to include the other sheep He spoke of that would come, and what they needed also.It must be understood in its context. Just like any writing. It cannot mean what it never meant.
So you really have nothing that says that Reformed Theology teaches that we have no free will because of predestination. Gotcha.Well, if they claim that we do have free will, then we cannot be predestined in the way of salvation, in the way we think of the word predestination. Any definition of predestination must include our having a real choice. You cannot claim God is sovereign over our will..because He limited Himself to allow us the choice!
No, it really can't. If so, then it's open to all sorts of wild interpretations.It can mean things people long ago never dreamed of. The context has to include the other sheep He spoke of that would come, and what they needed also.
How could anyone destined to chose something have free will?So you really have nothing that says that Reformed Theology teaches that we have no free will because of predestination. Gotcha.
What do you even mean by that? That is a way open statement. Why can't people just express a full thought and not little sub thoughts like we are in your brain or somehingSo what? The bible was written for TODAY.
Yes, the bible is alive, not a dead book. It cannot be limited to the customs or comprehension of people thousands of years ago.No, it really can't. If so, then it's open to all sorts of wild interpretations.
How is 'the bible is for right now' be a sub thought?What do you even mean by that? That is a way open statement. Why can't people just express a full thought and not little sub thoughts like we are in your brain or somehing
Please, stick with the OP. If I start an Ask the Calvinist Thread, I'll let you know.How could anyone destined to chose something have free will?
It can be limited to the author's intention.Yes, the bible is alive, not a dead book. It cannot be limited to the customs or comprehension of people thousands of years ago.
I've heard you guys say we have no free will at all. It doesnt exist. Free will.Fair enough. Then it should be easy to show where Reformed Theology teaches that we have no free will because of predestination.
God is the Author. He intended it for today.It can be limited to the author's intention.
Then those in hell will have an excuse to blame God
Having a Calvinist thread and avoiding the elephant in the room of predestination, when it is all over the links in the OP seems strange.Please, stick with the OP. If I start an Ask the Calvinist Thread, I'll let you know.
Okay.I've heard you guys say we have no free will at all. It doesnt exist. Free will.
The evidence mounts... a witness.I've heard you guys say we have no free will at all. It doesnt exist. Free will.
If it's all over the links, you should have no problem finding something with which to argue against.Having a Calvinist thread and avoiding the elephant in the room of predestination, when it is all over the links in the OP seems strange.
Explain how the Bible is for right now? In comparrison to 2,000 years ago. God doesn't change, so why would the Bible have to be for any time period. Truth is truth. It doesn't change if 1,000 years go by.How is 'the bible is for right now' be a sub thought?
That wasn't a from one of the sources listed.The evidence mounts... a witness.
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