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The mystery of the Apocalypse

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myrna

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The mystery of the book of Apocalypse is based on some Jewish symbols. Just as the Jews prior to the coming of Christ were reading all the prophesies and did not recognize His coming when He came, so today the book is being fulfilled but most people can not recognize because they do not understand the symbols.

Firstly, since the Catholic church was the original Christian church most of the prophesies will be fulfilled within that church. The Christian church was to be an extension of the Jewish religion therefore many things in this mysterious book relate to Jewish symbols.

A friend of mine has a theory about the mark of the beast. These marks he thinks reflect the Hebrew Faith. The mark on the head and on the hand comes from Gods commandment to the Israelites as a sign of there release from slavery. Deut. 6;8 & 11;18. Ex. 13;9. Apoc. 13;16. These marks are called Phylacteries. The Pharisee's wore them on their head and arm. The symbol 666 is also a reflection of the Hebrew faith symbolizing imperfection. One number short of seven which symbolizes perfection. He (my friend) goes on to explain the six symbol comes from the Trinity, from the symbol of the triangle doubled for the star of David, (Solomon's Seal) another six identifies with the Hebrew candelabra, the three candle holders were bent like a U and was attached to a center holder, the center holder is a reflection of the Messiah who had not arrived yet. Ex. 25;32. The other six stands for the 12 tribes to be put on 2 onyx stones Ephod with 6 names on one stone and 6 names on the other stone, which only the Hight Priest could wear. Ex. 28;10.

The two horns of antichrist or the beast, Apoc 13;11 are a symbol of strength, 3Kings 22-11, Ps.74: 5-6. To exalt one's horn, means to bestow or claim power. 1 Kings 2:10. Ps. 131: 17. In her will I make a horn to sprout forth for David. When he came down from Mt. Sinai, after receiving the ten commandments, Moses had appeared to have horns of light. Ex. 34:35. This is where the two horned miter comes from. The Hebrews wore their horns on each side, left and right. Bishops have theirs front and back. Moses was symbolic of the two horns because he was a Leader and a High Priest. In Luke 1: 69, Blessed be the Lord of God of Israel.... because He hath raised up a horn of salvation for us...

The beast comes out of the earth, the former beast came out of the sea, Spiritual and Temporal powers.

The above is just a small sampling of what my friend believes to be true. He knows also the day of the Second Coming of Christ, Pentecost Sunday, but not the year. Soon he says.
 

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Thus Nebuchadnezzar.....the king that was.....and is not.....yet shall ascend out of the bottomless and go into perdition......was weighed and numbered........666

Are you saying Nebuchadnezzar was the man of sin, Anti-Christ?

Because I believe it will be a false pope, "was and is not" .... meaning a pope pretender who will water or dumb down the Faith and bring in the Great Apostasy.
 
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vinsight4u said:
To understand Revelation....use the words from the other places in the bible.

such as.....Zec. 6........horses
Deut. 32......a latter end sealed up with God prophecy
Zec. 9 as to Tyrus will be the power of the sea.....
Isa. 23:15.....how Tyre has more punishment to come from God, but first a king must finish his 70 years./mystery, Babylon

Jer. 25:11-12......70 years for kings of Babylon/then the land will be made desolate

Rev. 7/Ezekiel 7-9 as to the time when it noted as....the end is come.....upon the four corners of the land
It signals that God will send the worst of the heathen against Israel.

Rev. 11......the two witnesses.......finish their testimony
Enoch nor Elijah have finished theirs yet.

Matthew 24.....Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened......
Rev. 6th seal......sun //////////became black

Just keep pulling the understanding from other verses in scripture and the Book of Revelation can be quite easy to decipher.

Here is another one that many find hard to believe concerning who Babylon was.

Rev 17:6 & Rev 18:20&24
I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus... In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth."
Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets!
God has judged her for the way she treated you.’"

Matthew 23:35
And so upon you [Jerusalem] will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth,
 
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I am going to read the verses you put in your note, I saved them and will compare them to my friends findings. To be honest I can not believe that Nebuchadnezzar or anyone else for that matter is going to come back from the dead to be Anti-Christ.

Anti-Christ might even be some organization or office, which is why I think it will be within the Vatican. Have you ever read the "History of Antichrist by Rev. P. Huchede. It is a Catholic book with Imprimatur originally published in the English language 1884 but reprinted by Tan Publisher.
 
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myrna said:
Anti-Christ might even be some organization or office, which is why I think it will be within the Vatican. .

How did you get away with that statement? I was censored for a similar statement.

There are two separate end-time rulers; the political and religious; the first beast and second beast; Death and Hell; the antiChrist and false prophet. These are often confused. The term "beast" is a person, the office that person holds, and the organization. So, perhaps the people are not yet in power, but I believe the organizations are in place, and the offices are established. There is A beast in power, and there is A false prophet in power. There are many antiChrists, and many false prophets. There is only one office of antiChrist and only one office of false prophet. At some point THE antiChrist and THE false prophet will take their seats of authority, their offices, and be the final world rulers.
 
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"The mystery of the book of Apocalypse is based on some Jewish symbols."

One wonders how to reply to statements such as this.

Symbolism certainly plays its role in apocalyptic. And Schürer did regard it as the characteristic feature. And this genre does abound with beasts, seals, rivers, mountains, stars and celestial personages. If you don’t believe me, read 2 Baruch 1&2 Enoch, 4 Ezra and the likes. But the Revelation also contains revelations. Indeed the word "apocalypse" is translated "revelation." This genre also is noted for pessimism, the shaking of the foundations, the triumph of God, determinism, dualism, historical perspective and interpretation, prediction, ethical teaching and pseudonymity.

That said, the Revelation is not only an apocalypse, but it is called a prophecy. Moreover, it is also called a letter. An apocalypse, a prophecy, an epistle–at least three literary genre and we must do justice to all three! By the way–this does not exhaust the possibilities. John refers to the public reading of Scripture "anaginwskwn" (he who reads–Re 1:3) which means that the Revelation has a liturgical purpose. The Revelation has a profound theology, but that theology is inseparable from literary structure and composition.

This book is a vindication of our Trinitarian faith. It reveals the Alpha and the Omega, the divine Name, and the Lord God almighty who sits on the throne. It critiques Roman power and proclaims divine holiness in judgment, God’s sovereignty and transcendence, and his faithfulness to creation. It portrays the worship of Jesus, and his salvific works. It sets before us messianic warfare, the eschatological exodus, and the witness of martyrdom. Other themes expounded in the Revelation include the defeat of the beast, the harvest of the earth, the conversion of the nations, the parousia, the kingdom of God, the new Jerusalem as a place, a people and the presence of God.

As we say, how does one reply to "based on some Jewish symbols."

Of course to find such theology as outlined requires too much patience and pays too little fantasy value. So instead people regard the Revelation as a message in code. We need to "decode" to produce "literal" prophecies. To that end, the Bible is reduced to a glorified jigsaw puzzle. Texts are snatched and grabbed from all directions and pasted into a surrealistic collage. Then God is called to witness the truth of the resulting odysseys.

Blessings!

Covenant Heart
 
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