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Here you go folks. See if any of these 6 reasons listed, relate to what is exhibited in these threads:
https://www.barna.org/barna-update/...ns-young-christians-leave-church#.Vwk3Fkc8OFo
I've already answered that. Take my answer for what it is.
eudaimonia,
Mark
I just find it disturbing and creepy to see people attempt to justify atrocities and claim that it is all moral and good. It explains much about history.
eudaimonia,
Mark
What post was this answer given in?
But that's still only two options. I didn't say He would just let them go about their business, I asked why He didn't stop them in some other fashion. So why did He stop them in this fashion as opposed to one of a million ways He could have stopped them?What if the command to destroy them achieved a greater good than would have been achieved had He let them just continue to terrorize people?
I just find it disturbing and creepy to see people attempt to justify atrocities and claim that it is all moral and good. It explains much about history.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Because He had other options. The trolley problem can't be applied to Him because He isn't limited to just flipping a switch like we are. So He would choose to kill one child, when He could choose to save everyone. Now if you make a choice, then you want that choice to happen more than all your other choices. So sure, I want one child to die if it means saving two, but it means that God wants one child to die instead of one. Same can be applied to the Amalekites.
He could have done a lot of things that made them stop being a danger to the Israelites. He could have mind-controlled them to not attack. He could have given the Israelites superpowers. If they really needed to be exterminated, He could have done it himself a-la-Sodom-and-Gamorah style. So He even wanted the Israelites to suffer the mental trauma of plunging their swords into babies. Why did He want all of this horrible stuff to happen?
I was referring to post 1581.
eudaimonia,
Mark
But that's still only two options. I didn't say He would just let them go about their business, I asked why He didn't stop them in some other fashion. So why did He stop them in this fashion as opposed to one of a million ways He could have stopped them?
No. I think things might be getting a bit mixed up. I'm talking about the order he gave. He didn't want the Amalekites running around slaughtering, but He wanted a slaughter of the Amalekites to stop it from continuing.Once again, you are associating God permitting something to happen with Him desiring for it to happen.
But why not if it meant preserving the lives of innocents? Even some Israelite soldiers died during the attacks, assuredly, so why not to keep them from dying by doing something else? And mind-control is only one of a million options. Why no superpowers for the Israelites? Why not just warn the Israelites of impending attacks before they happen to protect them that way? Why specifically this exact answer to the problem?God did not desire to abrogate or nullify their free will.
No. I think things might be getting a bit mixed up. I'm talking about the order he gave. He didn't want the Amalekites running around slaughtering, but He wanted a slaughter of the Amalekites to stop it from continuing.
But why not if it meant preserving the lives of innocents? Even some Israelite soldiers died during the attacks, assuredly, so why not to keep them from dying by doing something else? And mind-control is only one of a million options. Why no superpowers for the Israelites? Why not just warn the Israelites of impending attacks before they happen to protect them that way? Why specifically this exact answer to the problem?
But that's why people keep bringing up the women and children. It can't just be judgement because the women and children didn't do any of the attacking.He wanted to preserve their freedom while simultaneously executing judgment on them after giving them 500 years to get their act straight. So He ordered them to be killed and those who for all their lives were subject to their barbarous machinations rejoiced along with Israel for having taken vengeance on them for the evil they did and were intent on doing.
We don't desire to have to subject cancer to radiation, or to cut a gangrene limb off that will surely kill the person from whom it is cut. But we do it for a greater good.
I love it when some claim to speak for a God.
But that's why people keep bringing up the women and children. It can't just be judgement because the women and children didn't do any of the attacking.
But that's why people keep bringing up the women and children. It can't just be judgement because the women and children didn't do any of the attacking.
Why? That's sort of a "because I said so" to they question "why did you say so?".Because God decided it should be so.
You shouldn't make assumptions about just how much of the Bible I have read just because I've only pointed out a few.One thing that will help you, is if you sat down and read the entire Bible, not just the few verses out of 600,000 which speak about God and who He is.
Why? That's sort of a "because I said so" to they question "why did you say so?".
You shouldn't make assumptions about just how much of the Bible I have read just because I've only pointed out a few.
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