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It was in defense of the Jews. Also, God casting judgement on the Amalekites for killing their own children and not wanting the Jews to do the same is wrong how?
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It was in defense of the Jews. Also, God casting judgement on the Amalekites for killing their own children and not wanting the Jews to do the same is wrong how?Defend themselves? He commanded their complete destruction (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). And not out of self-defence, but because "they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God."
Couldn't Yahweh defend them himself without commanding that they slaughter men, women, and children?It was in defense of the Jews.
So Yahweh's brilliant solution to the Amalekites killing their own children is to have his followers kill them instead? That's his brilliant plan to save them from the hands of their Amalekite parents?Also, God casting judgement on the Amalekites for killing their own children and not wanting the Jews to do the same is wrong how?
I am assuming you said something to the effect that I was a lousy apologist.
And I was, up until now. For up until now I was ministering in unbelief, attempting to do a work that God has said I cannot do unless I abide in Him. Apart from Him, I can do nothing.
Note the emphasis. I didn't ask you what you would do "if a group of people came up from behind you and your people while peacefully passing by and started killing the young, the old and the disabled." I didn't ask whether you would feel that "it was your moral duty to kill those that were trying to kill you and your children."
In black and white:
Curious then that you omitted this post.
So it is not the act but how He had it carried out that is your issue?Couldn't Yahweh defend them himself without commanding that they slaughter men, women, and children?
You are cherry picking. We've established that there was a need to defend themselves or be wiped out themselves, so why is God wrong in telling them to wipe them out?So Yahweh's brilliant solution to the Amalekites killing their own children is to have his followers kill them instead? That's his brilliant plan to save them from the hands of their Amalekite parents?
For the fence sitters on this site, I don't think you are winning them over Jeremy.
Is he not able to defend them?So it is not the act but how He had it carried out that is your issue?
We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.You are cherry picking. We've established that there was a need to defend themselves or be wiped out themselves, so why is God wrong in telling them to wipe them out?
He did that is what we are discussing.Is he not able to defend them?
We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.
He couldn't do it himself? Needed sycophants to do his dirty work?His plan was to eliminate wicked people from the face of the earth. Unrepentant, evil people who had been given several centuries to clean up their act. And I am glad that was His plan. I am only sorry that Israel was not obedient to carry it out fully.
Anymore questions?
Were you doing the will of God when you plagiarised earlier?I am not trying to win anyone over. I desire to do the will of God.
You're glad that he commanded children to be slaughtered, and you would participate in that act if he commanded you to do it?His plan was to eliminate wicked people from the face of the earth. Unrepentant, evil people who had been given several centuries to clean up their act. And I am glad that was His plan. I am only sorry that Israel was not obedient to carry it out fully.
Anymore questions?
So it is how it did it that gives you issue?Is he not able to defend them?
Yes, very important part of all of it...So? They were a very horrendous people that went around killing other people not only the Jews. Of course, if you think that throwing children into the fire to satisfy this false god was a good thing I guess you are not going to listen to anything that might change your mind.We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.
Is he not able to defend them?
We also established that the need for defence was not why he commanded complete destruction. He was fearful that they would worship other gods.
According to the Bible, which was written by?So it is how it did it that gives you issue?
Yes, very important part of all of it...So? They were a very horrendous people that went around killing other people not only the Jews.
And Yahweh's plan to save them from that was to kill them? Is he "defending" them from these children, or are the children also the victims? You can't seem to decide.Of course, if you think that throwing children into the fire to satisfy this false god was a good thing I guess you are not going to listen to anything that might change your mind.
I think DogmaHunter said it well:No, they don't. They do it for Allah.
I understand where the difference lies. And it's not in the evidence. It's in the mythology.
The only thing you can say to an ISIS fighter concerning his "morals", is that he follows the wrong god. If he had the right god, then what he is doing would be correct and YOU would be immoral for speaking out against it.
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