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How is he being inconsistent?You're guilty of being very inconsistent. Does that not bother you?
A big "if" for you to substantiate.If the bible contains God's self disclosure of Himself to us, then we have God Himself telling us about Himself using language we can understand.
Do you agree?
Meanwhile, the lifelong atheist philanthropist goes to hell.
Thanks for illustrating yet another immense flaw in your convoluted mess of a moral philosophy - it's not actually pertinent to moral behavior at all.
But you agree right?A big "if" for you to substantiate.
The fact that it simply doesn't matter whether one behaves morally or not; all that matters is that one believes.Precisely.
Philanthropy does not get you into heaven and faith without works is dead. In scripture there is a balance.
What premises led you to that conclusion?
Whoa. What do you mean, "belief is not a counscious choice"?
Once you've taken awareness of your beliefs and know others, you can change them.
No, serial killers don't get freepasses, unless they repent, asks God for forgiveness and trust in the name of Jesus.
I didn't say 'free-pass'; but still, a pass is a pass.
I just want to know how you feel that you can use the words 'morality' and 'justice', when it appears that your theology is morally bankrupt.
You are the one that started this "moral argument" thread, as if it were in favour of your theology.
That has yet to be established.
But you believe it, and I have to presume you think you can make sense of it.
Who is this "we", Kemosabe? I'm no serial killer. I am simply not convinced of the existence of gods.
You concede that belief is not a conscious choice?
Assuming this god exists, and is going to remain - by every objective measure to date - indistinguishable from fiction, why should I be held accountable for thinking just that?
Or does justice and morality go out the window at this point?
This is a loaded question, with two unwarranted assumptions.
Firstly, that 'objective meaning' is a thing. It isn't. Meaning derives from minds and their relation to concepts and language. It is necessarily subjective.
Secondly, that Yahweh is somehow relevant to meaning. As I have said numerous times before, and will continue to point out, your assertions about Yahweh exist in an epistemological deadzone. You have no means and no methodology of deriving any information either from or about Yahweh. All you have are vacuous naked assertions as to his purported nature, character, actions, desires etc. - predicated on thin air. That is ultimately why your argument, and all theological arguments, fail.
What does this mean? Why is God objective and not subjective? Why is what He wants us to do more than an opinion and somehow a fact of what we ought to do? It sounds like your definition of morality itself requires a God, and that makes this whole argument null and void and circular logic. I've stated a few times in a few posts how we came up with morality to begin with and what we base it on in the most simplistic terms, it's a lot more complicated than I am really qualified to explain in great detail.
The fact that it simply doesn't matter whether one behaves morally or not; all that matters is that one believes.
Oh, do tell...You say you have read the bible. It is statements like the one you just made that indicate otherwise.
Then your religion isn't about moral accountability at all.It's indistinguishable from fiction to you. God is not a deistic god, he does show his power and the name of Jesus is a powerful name.
You're accountable because you are a sinner and the only thing you'll be able to call to in the day of judgment to save you is Jesus and what he did for you. As Christians, we are trying to show you that.
You say you have read the bible. It is statements like the one you just made that indicate otherwise.
Yes.Is there a way for a serial killing rapist get to heaven? If yes, please explain how exactly.
On what exactly do you base your judgement? As you have made this personal, substantiate with links and quotes, or retract.
And if one of his victims died a nonbeliever? What will happen to her?Yes.
Jesus Christ is the way.
If you have read the bible, you would know this.
Have you read the bible?
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