the moon turning red

[bluemarkus]

i just had a night walk, and by coincidence saw the moon creeping up the horizon at 4 am being red ! of course i thought about the scripture that the christ spoke, and i spoke it out loud. at that moment my watch beeped. it beeps only once in an hour.

what does the moon in this scripture stand for ? i think it is symbolic, but what for ?

greetings

Markus

 

[bluemarkus]

Mat 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Mar 13:24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,

Luk 21:25 "And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves,

Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.

Rev 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

 

[bluemarkus]

i want to add, i had a very hard speak-out with my family today just before that happened. we are having problems and a fight over our different views of christianity in our lives. the last weeks have been really hard emotionally and spiritually, but tonight was kindof a climax.

i am pretty shure somebody up there wanted to tell me something...

oh, maybe this would be better for the "visions" subforum ?
well anyway, mods, do your job...

thank you and peace to you

Markus

 

[HotToast]

Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.

Rev 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

I was also thinking of these verses.

However I just wanted to say that the moon can also appear to be red/orange when it is close to the horizon due to the pollution in the atmosphere. This is also the reason that stars and planets near the horizon appear to twinkle. (Sorry I am a bit of a science nerd...)

So I think that the bible is refering to something else when it says that it will turn the moon to blood.

 

[johnd]

...about the original instability of the orbits of the planets in the solar system. He teaches of evidence that Earth and Mars had near pass-bys in ancient times before settling into the current resonant orbits we are in (cause of the great flood and the shift in orbit from the 360 day year to the 365.25 day year of Earth... that sort of thing).

Brilliant hypothesis. www.kousue.org is where you might find his studies on the subject.

Only, Missler never connects the events of ancient pass-bys and possible future ones. I questioned him, about this in an open-mike question and answers session at Horizon Christian Fellowship in San Diego in 1995 but he sloughed it off with his personal view (which is viable, don't get me wrong). But so's mine.

My view is that the signs in the heavens in the last days would include not just a single asteroid strike on Earth, but possibly the collapse of the asteroid belt itself. The roche limit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit) will break up most planet-busters but remember during these times an entire third of the population is obliterated by famines plagues pestilences and things like fiery mountains falling from the sky.

Mars, being the closest to the asteroid belt may well be knocked off its orbital plane and pass so near the Earth that it appears to be the moon. Blood red. Redder than any moonrise ever was. And the moon? If it is not obliterated by the asteroids, it might be forced into a lower orbit around the Earth and the Roche limit of Earth will break it into a bazillion parts (kind of like in the new Time Machine Movie), the debris of which will block out 1/3 of the day and 1/3 of the night like scripture suggests.

Missler thinks the world's rotation will simply speed up by 1/3 to explain this passage. For lots of boring scientific reasons I will not go into why that would be an impossibility. Suffice it to say it would cause at least 1/3 less gravity on Earth (and that's if it does not cause exponential imbalances that would destroy the surface of the Earth in less than a day).

So, Mars at a point that approximated the moons normal position (the moon is turned to blood) and the shattered moon in Earth orbit blocking out 1/3 of the day and 1/3 of the night could be answered by these possible catastrophes.

Love,

JohnD

 

[johnd]

Remember everything in the universe is in motion. We cannot apply static thinking to the universe. Look at the surfaces of both Mars and our moon. Both have the majority of their meteor scars on one face. This could indicate as some speculate that a single mass meteor shower scoured one side of each planetoid. OR... perhaps both were in unstable orbits and bounced along the edge of the asteroid belt... forcing them into the gravitational fields which hold them to this day.

Love,
JohnD

 

[jsimms615]

i want to add, i had a very hard speak-out with my family today just before that happened. we are having problems and a fight over our different views of christianity in our lives. the last weeks have been really hard emotionally and spiritually, but tonight was kindof a climax.

i am pretty shure somebody up there wanted to tell me something...

oh, maybe this would be better for the "visions" subforum ?
well anyway, mods, do your job...

thank you and peace to you

Markus

I've seen that happen a number of times. What it suggests, I think the first thing it should remind us is that we need to be ready for Christ's return at any moment. I think the moon is the moon and there isn't any symbolism there.

 

[Jesusong]

We just had a lunar eclipse just recently and you probably witnessed it during the moonrise. I would have loved to have seen that.

The events described by Jesus and elsewhere in Scriptures are supernatural events signaling the 2nd coming of Christ. Supernatural events cannot be explained by natural phenomena. God will intervene and cause things to happen for no apparent reason other than to show His sovereignty over His creation.

 

[HotToast]

We just had a lunar eclipse just recently and you probably witnessed it during the moonrise. I would have loved to have seen that.

Yep, that was on the moring of the 4th of march I believe.

 

[johnd]

moon

Mars

 

[A Brother In Christ]

i just had a night walk, and by coincidence saw the moon creeping up the horizon at 4 am being red ! of course i thought about the scripture that the christ spoke, and i spoke it out loud. at that moment my watch beeped. it beeps only once in an hour.

what does the moon in this scripture stand for ? i think it is symbolic, but what for ?

greetings

Markus

this really happens !

acts 2:19-21, matt 24:29 is tribulational

 

[A Brother In Christ]

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Mat 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Mar 13:24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,

Luk 21:25 "And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves,

Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.

Rev 6:12 When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

right before the 3 1/2 perriod love scripture

 

[Tyndale]

i just had a night walk, and by coincidence saw the moon creeping up the horizon at 4 am being red ! of course i thought about the scripture that the christ spoke, and i spoke it out loud. at that moment my watch beeped. it beeps only once in an hour.

what does the moon in this scripture stand for ? i think it is symbolic, but what for ?

greetings

Markus

Hello Marcus,

The answer is in Acts 2.

11] Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
[12] And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?
[13] Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.
[14] But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
[15] For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
[16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
[19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
[20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
[21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

My thinking of this, is that after the day of Pentecost the disciples started speaking in tongues, strange things like the moon turning red started to happen. Before Pentecost, such events were prophesied, but didn't happen

 

[njcl]

its not symbolic,the moon will turn red,maybe from dust particles from a nuclear hit on the earth therebye obscuring our view of the moon which will look redish........thats only 1 of a zillion possible answers,the fact is no human being knows what the true meaning of that sentence is except the moon will change colour