The missing link

[ImmortalTechnique]

no one said anything about your boyfriend... read the thread before you post useless stuff like that

 

[raphael_aa]

DGE Project

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It is worth noting that this is a very common occurrence among evolutionists, to nit-pick on the most trivial of items, and then declare their opponent a "liar". I think this is a good commentary on which side can argue from the strength of evidence, and which side cannot.

If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words... useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth (1 Timothy 6:3-5)
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As someone who actually regards the words of scripture with some seriousness, I find their use here to be objectionable. This quote is wrenched completely out of context to act as some point-scoring device. To put scripture to this kind of base use should offend anyone with genuine reverential concern for meaningful interpretation of scripture.[/color]

 

[Douglaangu v2.0]

Why is the acareopteryx always brought up in tehse discussions? Do we have antoehr David claiming tht Fred said the acrchoepteryx was a hoax?

Are you freaking stoned?

"Archie" is entirely relevant to the discusion.
No one said anything about your claims.

 

[DGE Project]

Poeple were sayhing things about Fred's cliams. More specifiaclly they tried to say he made claims he never did. They took the following to mean Fred was claiming the Arecheopteryx was a hoax. HOw anyone ever slightly litereate could make this mistake is beyond me, but Fred even went out of his way to makes sure evos with reading comprehension problems would not be confudsed again.

Take Archaeopteryx, for example. Many evolutionists hail this fossil bird as an intermediate between dinosaur & bird. Yet a decent number of leading bird experts, who are themselves evolutionists, roundly dispute this claim.9
9. Leading ornithologist Dr. Alan Feduccia wrote "Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth-bound feathered dinosaur. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of "paleobabble" is going to change that". Cited in J. Sarfati, Refuting Evolution, p 58, from Science, 259(5096), p 764-65.

Dr Storrs Olson, Curator of Birds at the National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution, equated the the alleged dino-bird link to “…one of the grander scientific hoaxes of our age — the paleontological equivalent of cold fusion.” – Open Letter to National Geographic Society, 1999

 

[Douglaangu v2.0]

I didn't say that was what "fred" was claiming.

I said that even though the fossil used by NatGeo was discovered to be a fraud, this does not mean that Archaeopteryx fossils (a different species than the fossil NatGeo 'had') are.

I said NOTHING about Ayatollah Fred Williams.
How anyone even slightly literate could make this mistake is beyond me

 

[Split Rock]

Why is the acareopteryx always brought up in tehse discussions? Do we have antoehr David claiming tht Fred said the acrchoepteryx was a hoax?
[/indent]Fred Williams

Gee I thought we were discussing transitionals and feathered dinosaurs?

In any case, I mentioned whale intermediates and provided a link. Would you rather discuss them? Rodhocetus and Dorudon are both fossil intermediates in whale evolution known from complete or near complete specimens. They both have rear legs and in Dorudon they a tiny. Are they "just whales?" Are they members of the Archaeoceti "kind?" Is one a whale "kind," and the other not? Why?

Here are more links: http://www.neoucom.edu/DEPTS/ANAT/BasilAndDor.htm

compare to modern dolphins:
http://www.neoucom.edu/DEPTS/ANAT/Thewissen/whale_origins/index.html
(click on "Odontocetes" on the left for pics)

 

[Douglaangu v2.0]

Why?

I wouldn't get your hopes up for a reply unless theres something about it on Mahatma Williams site.

 

[DGE Project]

I didn't say that was what "fred" was claiming.

And I din't say you said that. I wasn't tgalking about you, but a couple of evos posting in Fred's guestbook.

 

[Valkhorn]

Someone should post a thread on why "Evolutionfairytale.com" is bunk....

...well as if DGE over here hasn't gotten the memo from just about everyone on this forum that it is.

 

[DailyBlessings]

As for the profit question- the anthropologists themselves would not make any profit off of a new transitional fossil (many "missing links" have been found since that term was coined), since human remains cannot be owned or sold in most places. The institution that eventually ended up with them, depending on where the fossil is found, might make indirect profits (through publicity and visitorship and the like) but could not actually sell the remains.

 

[Douglaangu v2.0]

And I din't say you said that. I wasn't tgalking about you, but a couple of evos posting in Fred's guestbook.

Who cares? That has nothing to do with this thread.

 

[notto]

Yet a decent number of leading bird experts, who are themselves evolutionists, roundly dispute this claim.

2 = a decent number?

 

[Ozymandius]

Does this guy not understand that discussing "trivial points" is what science is all about? If we let scientists' research slide on a few points that just didn't make sense, we'd all still be farmers (or maybe hunter/gatherers.)

 

[Split Rock]

Take Archaeopteryx, for example. Many evolutionists hail this fossil bird as an intermediate between dinosaur & bird. Yet a decent number of leading bird experts, who are themselves evolutionists, roundly dispute this claim.9
9. Leading ornithologist Dr. Alan Feduccia wrote "Paleontologists have tried to turn Archaeopteryx into an earth-bound feathered dinosaur. It is a bird, a perching bird. And no amount of "paleobabble" is going to change that". Cited in J. Sarfati, Refuting Evolution, p 58, from Science, 259(5096), p 764-65.

Dr Storrs Olson, Curator of Birds at the National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution, equated the the alleged dino-bird link to “…one of the grander scientific hoaxes of our age — the paleontological equivalent of cold fusion.” – Open Letter to National Geographic Society, 1999

So, you (excuse me, AIG) found two experts who disagree that birds evolved from dinosaurs. Tell me, how many of these two experts believe instead that birds did not evolve at all and were created by divine fiat 6,000-10,000 years ago?

None?

Next please.