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The Middle East Problem
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They do not even see the right of any group outside of Islam to exist and even within Islam ISIS does not see the rights of fellow Muslim to exist. It is an extinct creating faith. The sooner people realize there is no stopping the scourge, but by elimination of the extremes of Muslims, there will be no peace in the world. People are stupid to think that this is isolated to Israel. Israel is just an island in the middle.
Our world is rapidly changes as the scourge moves across the globe. There are only a few countries that have barred them completely. Everywhere this faith goes, they come with death, destruction, chaos, hatred, violence, loss of religious freedom, loss of women's rights, honor killings, beastiality, pediphiling, and the list goes on. There is no peace with this type of religion. There maybe some crazy idea that if we negotiate for Palestine and win to the point of the non-existence of Israel, the Islamic factor will settle down to being normal Muslims. That will not happen. Israel is just one of the things Islam doesn't like, no matter how kind Israel is to them.
Our world is rapidly changes as the scourge moves across the globe. There are only a few countries that have barred them completely. Everywhere this faith goes, they come with death, destruction, chaos, hatred, violence, loss of religious freedom, loss of women's rights, honor killings, beastiality, pediphiling, and the list goes on. There is no peace with this type of religion. There maybe some crazy idea that if we negotiate for Palestine and win to the point of the non-existence of Israel, the Islamic factor will settle down to being normal Muslims. That will not happen. Israel is just one of the things Islam doesn't like, no matter how kind Israel is to them.
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This is true. Israel goes to great lengths to be at peace.
Christian news programs like CBN News Newswatch say the same thing.
Secular news turns the story around backwards.
Most people, including Christians, rely on secular news for "truth".
My family and I pray daily for the peace and safety of Israel. (Psalm 122:6)
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What do we do with a problem that has no solution?
There will never be peace in the middle east or anywhere else until Meshiach comes and makes sure no nation can lift up sword against another nation.
What can we do?
Especially for those of us who don't live in the middle east, it is almost like a different world unconnected to ours; some people live their lives in say Europe or Australia, but their mind is in Middle-earth. For others, their mind is in the middle-east. In both cases, their minds are outside of their surroundings and hence they are living in abstraction and fantasy.
It is the difference between some of the Chasidim and the other Orthodox; the Chasidim make themselves at home in diaspora whereas the others saw it as temporary. Hence the Chasidim had their minds in the real world, in their actual surroundings, dealing with the real, tangible, visible world, whereas some other ones had their minds in heaven, in Israel, beyond the Sambatyon, or in other parts of the the invisible realm.
The flipside is that the Chasidim then eventually bring Russia and Germany WITH them into Israel (the ancient forefathers would never wear hairy hats like that!) whereas the other ones may be more willing to conform to the land and ancient ways which are now more available to them.
What happened here was that the land which for 2000 years only existed in the imagination suddenly became real (again), requiring quite a paradigm change.
Some of the Reform Jews, during diaspora, were so provoked at the mentions of "returning to Tzion" that they changed the Siddur.
"Berlin is our home, not Tzion! What do you mean by returning to Tzion, are we not already home?"
There is a positive as well as a negative aspect to this, believe it or not.
Every coin has two sides.
The positive is that this attitude deals with actuality, with reality, with tangible, visible, surroundings. It is not solipsistic, reality-denying or abstract.
The negative is that this realism is also a compromise, for it does not try to champion anything or make reality, but simply conform to reality; Zionism was an impossible fantasy, yet became a tangible reality. It was made real.
There will never be peace in the middle east or anywhere else until Meshiach comes and makes sure no nation can lift up sword against another nation.
What can we do?
Especially for those of us who don't live in the middle east, it is almost like a different world unconnected to ours; some people live their lives in say Europe or Australia, but their mind is in Middle-earth. For others, their mind is in the middle-east. In both cases, their minds are outside of their surroundings and hence they are living in abstraction and fantasy.
It is the difference between some of the Chasidim and the other Orthodox; the Chasidim make themselves at home in diaspora whereas the others saw it as temporary. Hence the Chasidim had their minds in the real world, in their actual surroundings, dealing with the real, tangible, visible world, whereas some other ones had their minds in heaven, in Israel, beyond the Sambatyon, or in other parts of the the invisible realm.
The flipside is that the Chasidim then eventually bring Russia and Germany WITH them into Israel (the ancient forefathers would never wear hairy hats like that!) whereas the other ones may be more willing to conform to the land and ancient ways which are now more available to them.
What happened here was that the land which for 2000 years only existed in the imagination suddenly became real (again), requiring quite a paradigm change.
Some of the Reform Jews, during diaspora, were so provoked at the mentions of "returning to Tzion" that they changed the Siddur.
"Berlin is our home, not Tzion! What do you mean by returning to Tzion, are we not already home?"
There is a positive as well as a negative aspect to this, believe it or not.
Every coin has two sides.
The positive is that this attitude deals with actuality, with reality, with tangible, visible, surroundings. It is not solipsistic, reality-denying or abstract.
The negative is that this realism is also a compromise, for it does not try to champion anything or make reality, but simply conform to reality; Zionism was an impossible fantasy, yet became a tangible reality. It was made real.
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